GSR differences...
intox
08-28-2003, 02:29 PM
Just a quick question.
93 GSR 15.3sec 1/4 mile
94+ GSR 15.5sec 1/4 mile
97 ITR 15.4sec 1/4 mile
Are these accurate times for them stock???
is the 93 GSR really actually that much faster than 94+ and even a hair faster than ITR???
93 GSR 15.3sec 1/4 mile
94+ GSR 15.5sec 1/4 mile
97 ITR 15.4sec 1/4 mile
Are these accurate times for them stock???
is the 93 GSR really actually that much faster than 94+ and even a hair faster than ITR???
intox
08-28-2003, 02:33 PM
Just a quick question.
93 GSR 15.3sec 1/4 mile
94+ GSR 15.5sec 1/4 mile
97 ITR 15.4sec 1/4 mile
Are these accurate times for them stock???
is the 93 GSR really actually that much faster than 94+ and even a hair faster than ITR???
Oops checked another site, the ITR is 14.7 Thought it was faster... But what about the 93/94 difference?
93 GSR 15.3sec 1/4 mile
94+ GSR 15.5sec 1/4 mile
97 ITR 15.4sec 1/4 mile
Are these accurate times for them stock???
is the 93 GSR really actually that much faster than 94+ and even a hair faster than ITR???
Oops checked another site, the ITR is 14.7 Thought it was faster... But what about the 93/94 difference?
knorwj
08-28-2003, 07:16 PM
i'm not sure if the newer gs-r is actually slower but i know mine was pretty quick stock and people have said that it is the second quickest teg every made... so maybe it is right.
maybe the gearing is different or something? cuz the 93 does have 1/10 of a liter smaller engine ( i know, not a big difference but who knows)
maybe the gearing is different or something? cuz the 93 does have 1/10 of a liter smaller engine ( i know, not a big difference but who knows)
KrNxRaCer00
08-29-2003, 12:19 AM
the 93 gsr was the quickest of the bunch. it generally runs (with a good driver), 15.1-2, compared to the 94-95 gsrs' which ran 15.2-4.
the 96-up were the slowest gsrs running 15.3-5.
the 96-up were the slowest gsrs running 15.3-5.
streetrcr45
08-29-2003, 01:09 AM
i thought that they made the ITR from 1998-2001... but im probably wrong as i have been before.. but ive heard that the ITR does 1/4 in 14.7 so i think that ur correct there :smile:
TheNotoriousMogg
08-29-2003, 02:45 AM
:repost:
Hey can we do a search once in awhile how many times can we repost the same f'in topic?
Hey can we do a search once in awhile how many times can we repost the same f'in topic?
CrzyMR2T
08-30-2003, 02:27 AM
what? the itrs 14.7 quarter mile?? i saw a vid of a jap itr barely getting 14.9, it got diff quarter mile times anywhere from 14.9 to 15.3. if the itr did it that fast its probably the fastest they ever got, with some dude that weighs like 120lbs maybe? i dont know, my guess.
PWMAN
08-31-2003, 03:05 PM
Oops checked another site, the ITR is 14.7 Thought it was faster... But what about the 93/94 difference?
Yup the 93 GSR was the fastest GSR ever made. Even the 92 was different times even though they are the same HP rating and same body style.
Yup the 93 GSR was the fastest GSR ever made. Even the 92 was different times even though they are the same HP rating and same body style.
knorwj
09-01-2003, 11:15 AM
Yup the 93 GSR was the fastest GSR ever made. Even the 92 was different times even though they are the same HP rating and same body style.
I like what you are tellin me... haha
I like what you are tellin me... haha
PWMAN
09-01-2003, 06:54 PM
I like what you are tellin me... haha
Yeah well I wish I had your car. LOL
I almost bought a 90 GS but the used car dealer was a real dick. Oh well. I'm happy with my 87' Dodge Daytona turbo.
Yeah well I wish I had your car. LOL
I almost bought a 90 GS but the used car dealer was a real dick. Oh well. I'm happy with my 87' Dodge Daytona turbo.
CrzyMR2T
09-01-2003, 07:07 PM
ok i looked around and the fastest they ever got in a type r was 14.7 on a drag strip, but how times would u be able to get that anyways? pretty rare. depends on weight of driver and their skill. of course if u take it to a drag strip u get diff times 14.8-15.5, id say more like around 15 on average.
knorwj
09-01-2003, 08:10 PM
Yeah well I wish I had your car. LOL
I almost bought a 90 GS but the used car dealer was a real dick. Oh well. I'm happy with my 87' Dodge Daytona turbo.
my first car was a '89 daytona es, and i loved it till i blew the engine :banghead:
I almost bought a 90 GS but the used car dealer was a real dick. Oh well. I'm happy with my 87' Dodge Daytona turbo.
my first car was a '89 daytona es, and i loved it till i blew the engine :banghead:
KrNxRaCer00
09-02-2003, 12:30 AM
ok i looked around and the fastest they ever got in a type r was 14.7 on a drag strip, but how times would u be able to get that anyways? pretty rare. depends on weight of driver and their skill. of course if u take it to a drag strip u get diff times 14.8-15.5, id say more like around 15 on average.
not rare at all.
if u get a DECENT driver behind the wheel who drives it as a daily driven car, he'll hit 14.7. my car with LESS power is capable to hit a time very near to that, and if i removed my passenger seat and lowered my tire pressure (ran on stock psi), with my test pipe now, i'd hit a 14.7.
for an AVERAGE driver, he could hit 14.7. that is the point of this rambling... :biggrin:
not rare at all.
if u get a DECENT driver behind the wheel who drives it as a daily driven car, he'll hit 14.7. my car with LESS power is capable to hit a time very near to that, and if i removed my passenger seat and lowered my tire pressure (ran on stock psi), with my test pipe now, i'd hit a 14.7.
for an AVERAGE driver, he could hit 14.7. that is the point of this rambling... :biggrin:
integra818
09-02-2003, 12:36 AM
what? the itrs 14.7 quarter mile?? i saw a vid of a jap itr barely getting 14.9, it got diff quarter mile times anywhere from 14.9 to 15.3. if the itr did it that fast its probably the fastest they ever got, with some dude that weighs like 120lbs maybe? i dont know, my guess.
Could've been a matter of elavation. :dunno:
Could've been a matter of elavation. :dunno:
CrzyMR2T
09-02-2003, 04:30 AM
Could've been a matter of elavation
good point
yea ur all right, but an average driver would get it slower than 14.7 on average. of course an average driver at some point could hit 14.7 out of all his 1/4 mile runs, then he could also hit 15.5 right? ive seen this before, they might get 14.7 out of all their runs. i think it requires a good driver with experience on his car to get 14.7, and near that time with consistency, u win races with consistency. im basically saying you should average out all ur decent runs to get ur 1/4 time. oh yea the 94 gsr was the fastest yr of its body syle, am i correct?
good point
yea ur all right, but an average driver would get it slower than 14.7 on average. of course an average driver at some point could hit 14.7 out of all his 1/4 mile runs, then he could also hit 15.5 right? ive seen this before, they might get 14.7 out of all their runs. i think it requires a good driver with experience on his car to get 14.7, and near that time with consistency, u win races with consistency. im basically saying you should average out all ur decent runs to get ur 1/4 time. oh yea the 94 gsr was the fastest yr of its body syle, am i correct?
PWMAN
09-02-2003, 08:35 AM
my first car was a '89 daytona es, and i loved it till i blew the engine :banghead:
Yeah, those were really easy to blow. The 88-up had the 2.5L. Mine has the 2.2L. The 2.5 had the same bore as a 2.2 but a longer stroke-over 4'' stroke! It's pretty easy to kill a bearing when you got 4.09'' stroke in a little 4 banger revving 6K RPM! The 2.2's were built better. I was about to by an 89 ES, but decided against it for this very reason.
Yeah, those were really easy to blow. The 88-up had the 2.5L. Mine has the 2.2L. The 2.5 had the same bore as a 2.2 but a longer stroke-over 4'' stroke! It's pretty easy to kill a bearing when you got 4.09'' stroke in a little 4 banger revving 6K RPM! The 2.2's were built better. I was about to by an 89 ES, but decided against it for this very reason.
knorwj
09-02-2003, 11:59 AM
yeah i wound up replacing the blown 2.5 with a 87 2.2, then i sold the whole thing to some 15 year old kid for 800 bucks. ( :disappoin shoulda gotten more money)
PWMAN
09-02-2003, 06:24 PM
yeah i wound up replacing the blown 2.5 with a 87 2.2, then i sold the whole thing to some 15 year old kid for 800 bucks. ( :disappoin shoulda gotten more money)
How did you put an 87 engine in an 89? They have different types of ECU's. 87 has a power module and a logic module, and 89 has an SMEC which is all in one ECU. They have like completely different wiring harnesses.
How did you put an 87 engine in an 89? They have different types of ECU's. 87 has a power module and a logic module, and 89 has an SMEC which is all in one ECU. They have like completely different wiring harnesses.
knorwj
09-02-2003, 07:09 PM
well that may be why it didn't run very well after i did it.
it was when i was 17 i blew the engine and i bought the 2.2 from a junkyard for 350. he told me it was either a 87 or maybe it was an 88 but anyway he told me that the only difference was the pullys, so i put the pullys from my engine on the one i bought from the junkyard and put the engine in.
after i got it runnin i took it for a drive and i used 1/4 tank of gas in 11 miles, needles to say i didn't start commuting with it again. also the engine seemed like it wanted to die occasionally. I thought it was the egr valve or something but by that point i was so frustrated i just sold it to some kid (dick move).
the wiring harness did plug right in though so maybe it was an 88?
it was when i was 17 i blew the engine and i bought the 2.2 from a junkyard for 350. he told me it was either a 87 or maybe it was an 88 but anyway he told me that the only difference was the pullys, so i put the pullys from my engine on the one i bought from the junkyard and put the engine in.
after i got it runnin i took it for a drive and i used 1/4 tank of gas in 11 miles, needles to say i didn't start commuting with it again. also the engine seemed like it wanted to die occasionally. I thought it was the egr valve or something but by that point i was so frustrated i just sold it to some kid (dick move).
the wiring harness did plug right in though so maybe it was an 88?
PWMAN
09-02-2003, 08:39 PM
well that may be why it didn't run very well after i did it.
it was when i was 17 i blew the engine and i bought the 2.2 from a junkyard for 350. he told me it was either a 87 or maybe it was an 88 but anyway he told me that the only difference was the pullys, so i put the pullys from my engine on the one i bought from the junkyard and put the engine in.
after i got it runnin i took it for a drive and i used 1/4 tank of gas in 11 miles, needles to say i didn't start commuting with it again. also the engine seemed like it wanted to die occasionally. I thought it was the egr valve or something but by that point i was so frustrated i just sold it to some kid (dick move).
the wiring harness did plug right in though so maybe it was an 88?
Wow, now you stumbled upon a rare engine. An 88 2.2L. There was a mid-year change in 88 from the 2.2 to a 2.5. If it plugged right in it was an 88 then.
Yeah there was probably some o2 sensor screwed up. It makes the ECU go into ''limp mode''. In other words it dumps fuel so whatever is wrong doesn't lean out the engine and melt things. It's actually a good thing.
Oh just to let you know there was no difference in the pulley's. The 87 would have a 4 bolt pulley, yours had 5. So even if you wanted to change them you couldn't have anyway. :wink: :biggrin:
it was when i was 17 i blew the engine and i bought the 2.2 from a junkyard for 350. he told me it was either a 87 or maybe it was an 88 but anyway he told me that the only difference was the pullys, so i put the pullys from my engine on the one i bought from the junkyard and put the engine in.
after i got it runnin i took it for a drive and i used 1/4 tank of gas in 11 miles, needles to say i didn't start commuting with it again. also the engine seemed like it wanted to die occasionally. I thought it was the egr valve or something but by that point i was so frustrated i just sold it to some kid (dick move).
the wiring harness did plug right in though so maybe it was an 88?
Wow, now you stumbled upon a rare engine. An 88 2.2L. There was a mid-year change in 88 from the 2.2 to a 2.5. If it plugged right in it was an 88 then.
Yeah there was probably some o2 sensor screwed up. It makes the ECU go into ''limp mode''. In other words it dumps fuel so whatever is wrong doesn't lean out the engine and melt things. It's actually a good thing.
Oh just to let you know there was no difference in the pulley's. The 87 would have a 4 bolt pulley, yours had 5. So even if you wanted to change them you couldn't have anyway. :wink: :biggrin:
CrzyMR2T
09-02-2003, 09:44 PM
what about the mitsubishi starion? those cars are quick for cheap. daytonas are pretty cool cars too.
PWMAN
09-03-2003, 07:56 AM
what about the mitsubishi starion? those cars are quick for cheap. daytonas are pretty cool cars too.
Well the heads on the 2.6L were prone to cracking a lot, not very reliable at all. But they did have a lot of power.
Well the heads on the 2.6L were prone to cracking a lot, not very reliable at all. But they did have a lot of power.
knorwj
09-03-2003, 03:06 PM
Wow, now you stumbled upon a rare engine. An 88 2.2L. There was a mid-year change in 88 from the 2.2 to a 2.5. If it plugged right in it was an 88 then.
Yeah there was probably some o2 sensor screwed up. It makes the ECU go into ''limp mode''. In other words it dumps fuel so whatever is wrong doesn't lean out the engine and melt things. It's actually a good thing.
Oh just to let you know there was no difference in the pulley's. The 87 would have a 4 bolt pulley, yours had 5. So even if you wanted to change them you couldn't have anyway. :wink: :biggrin:
on this one the bolts were the same but one was for a v-belt and one was for a flat belt. every thing on the engine looked the same cept for:
egr valve placement was different
power steering pump slightly different
alternator bracket different
and like i said the one pully was differnt but still bolted up(belts were same size just differnt style.) anyway this is why i finally got rid of it cuz there was som much stuff that just didn't seem right. i think that when i bought it the guy before me had done some jury rigging or something.
Yeah there was probably some o2 sensor screwed up. It makes the ECU go into ''limp mode''. In other words it dumps fuel so whatever is wrong doesn't lean out the engine and melt things. It's actually a good thing.
Oh just to let you know there was no difference in the pulley's. The 87 would have a 4 bolt pulley, yours had 5. So even if you wanted to change them you couldn't have anyway. :wink: :biggrin:
on this one the bolts were the same but one was for a v-belt and one was for a flat belt. every thing on the engine looked the same cept for:
egr valve placement was different
power steering pump slightly different
alternator bracket different
and like i said the one pully was differnt but still bolted up(belts were same size just differnt style.) anyway this is why i finally got rid of it cuz there was som much stuff that just didn't seem right. i think that when i bought it the guy before me had done some jury rigging or something.
leolo007
09-05-2003, 01:34 PM
Could've been a matter of elavation. :dunno:
elevation, humidity, temperature, gas octane, tires, driver's ability,even wind and other factors affect 1/4 times. I ran a 14.8 ( fisrt time at drag stip, could have done better with some practice) with my car in the 1/4mile but when I race in the street I have not been beaten by an ITR yet. I dont trust those 1/4miles most of the time they are corrected 1/4times, do a search on that, I dont have time now to explain right now, sorry!
elevation, humidity, temperature, gas octane, tires, driver's ability,even wind and other factors affect 1/4 times. I ran a 14.8 ( fisrt time at drag stip, could have done better with some practice) with my car in the 1/4mile but when I race in the street I have not been beaten by an ITR yet. I dont trust those 1/4miles most of the time they are corrected 1/4times, do a search on that, I dont have time now to explain right now, sorry!
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