which coilovers?

:newbie: I recently purchased some nice Arospeed rims and tires. I haven't gotten them in yet to try them on, but I'm pretty sure there will be a nice size gap between the tire and tire well and I want to lower my car to get rid of that and only have a small space between the tire and tire well. I found some nice coilovers (what I think to be) on ebay for like $75. Now, I know these have been criticized by many, but I only want them to lower my car and give me the same performance as stock ....or a little better. I am not looking for some expensive racing ones. :sunglasse
Or......would it still be best to get the expensive ones?
:2cents: Are $75 coilovers even worth a damn? :confused:
:smooch: Basically, I'm looking for quality coilovers for cheap......is there such thing? :confused:

if you are paying $75 dollars for some new coilovers then they are going to be pretty shitty. if you are going with coilover sleeves only go with skunk2 or ground control. these range from $250-$300. if you want to have a almost stock feeling ride then you will definitely have to go with some aftermarket shocks lik kyb agx, koni yellow, or tokiko illumina. if you try to just put the coilovers on stock shocks the ride is going to be really bouncy and after a couple of months the shocks are going to go and the ride is going to get even worse. another way to go is a true coilover setup like tein, apexi, h&r, progress, etc. these range from $700-shit load of money(depending on what you get). if all you are looking for is just a drop and a comfortable ride i would go with the tein basic damper which costs only $700 compared to the $250-$300 for the coilover sleeves and another $300-$500 for the shocks. also the ride will be a little bit better with the tein's.

I agree :grinyes: .....go with TEIN's I perfer them over any other coilover.


Here is the website: www.tein.com
Check them out. :grinyes:

:iamwithst :newbie: here.....what are sleeves?

sleeves = springs?

sleeves are the just the coilover part with no struts. it consists of the spring,perch and the threaded cylinder.

I'd HIGHLY look back to previous threads/posts on this matter in the suspension forum to help you make a better decision. First and foremost, when it comes to suspension, you get what you pay for, bottom line. :wink: No If's Ands or Buts on that. I don't care what people will tell you about sub $250 coilover sleeves. You're better off with regular lowering springs like Eibach Pro Kit or Neuspeed Sports if all you want to do is lower your car, and don't have any intent on adjusting the ride height of them ever. Coil sleeves are notorious for having some of the crappiest spring rates (unless you get Ground Controls which you can custom order spring rates for them). Tein S. Tech loering springs are quite good I hear also, about $180 or so from most places the carry them. I myself have Tein SS true full coilovers, and they are hands down the BEST invesment I've ever made in a mod on my car. Yeah they set me back $850, but they are worth EVERY penny of that amount. They feel as good as stock when set to softest dampening setting, and I can tune them fro the track to ride hard as a rock when I need that added stiffness. You'll never achieve as perfect combination of spring to shock ride comfort with coil sleeves and aftermarket shocks, as you will with a true full coilover kit like Tein, A'PEXi, JIC, etc... If near stock comfort is what you are looking for, $75 springs/soil sleeves is about as far from that goal as you'll get. Cutting corners and being cheap on suspension will only make you later on with you had saved up more and done it right the first time in the first place. I'm glad I saved mine and did it right the first time around.

Coilover sleeves are junk, I mean sleeves are just springs with a threaded collar that mount to unmatched shocks. While a true coilover is a matched spring/shock/threaded collar package & is the only way to go as far as coilovers go.

Basically, I'm looking for quality coilovers for cheap......is there such thing?

NO! there is no such thing as any quality suspension for cheap. When your talkin shock/springs or coilovers $500 would be cheap IMO. Dont buy price, buy quality!

H&R and Tein a good for true coilovers
www.tirerack.com

save your cash and buy a decent set of true coilovers cause in the long run you're gonna end up spending more money replacing the cheap setups then you would if you go out and buy a decent set the first time... tein's are the best way to go, granted they are on the expensive side but are worth the money... look into the super street coilovers...

"The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."

are these good coilovers/brands? : DropZone, Arospeed, & Tenzo R
Which is the best out of these?.....out of all?

are these good coilovers/brands? : DropZone, Arospeed, & Tenzo R
Which is the best out of these?.....out of all?

No those aren't good. A decent set of coilovers will cost $600 and up. The best of all would be some custom made pieces other than that H&R, Tein, Bilstein are good.

For coilover sleeves Ground Control is ok

one word...tein

one word...tein

This from experience?

blah coiless.......the only shity way to go....lol you know what im talkin bout silvery2k :screwy:

Tein this and tein that.

Most people on here don't have experience with Tein it is just the hot name in suspension, right now.

If anyone does, they will know that most the Tein coilover kits use very high spring rates, which, are more setup for race/autox.

These kits are usually 3x stiffer than your average H&R, Neuspeed, etc. race springs.

Most are not streetable, unless you race and know what you are doing in setting up your suspension.

The first word in lowering in NOT a coilover sleeve of any kind.

DEFINITION:
"Coilover sleeve, and threaded perch or colar, with a spring that will fit over any shock"
http://www.ground-control.com/honco.jpg

If you have a Civic, integra, prelude, S2000, Accord they all come with coilover shocks.

DEFINITION:
"Coilover Shock/suspension, is any shock with a coil spring around the shock, where the shock dampens the spring directly, on the body"
http://www.automotivetech.org/photopost/data/526/1350z3-med.jpg

If we are talking about adjustable coilver shocks.

DEFINITION
"Adjustable/Threaded coilover shock, is a shock with a threaded body with adjustable perches to move the spring up or down on the body of the shock effectively raising or lowering the vehicle on that corner"
http://www.automotivetech.org/photopost/data/515/1n2.jpg
http://www.automotivetech.org/photopost/data/515/1adjustableshock-med.jpg

So now to answer the question, if you want a drop just to close off fender well gap, coilover sleeves are the absolute last thing you want to do.

H&R and Neuspeed makes whats called an OE sport or softsport spring.
For Eibach it is the prokit.

All of these are designed to work with stock shocks, lowering center of gravity (which reduces roll) and stiffens up the ride and reduces gap slightly.

The reason they don't drop your car more than 1-1.5" is because the factory shocks lose their ability to dampen the springs after that.

If you have tires, next is a nice set of basic lowering springs like those mentioned.