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doraemon
08-19-2003, 05:25 AM
Hi, I've just seen again gone in 60 seconds, and... well... I LOVE THE GT500!!!! I want one!!!, but like I cannot have a 1:1.... a 1/24 should be enough for now :iceslolan . Anyone of you knows where to buy one?? I know that revell-monogram has a 1/24 GT350, but I want a GT500, or there is only a difference in the engine?? cause if the only difference is the engine..... or the GT500 comes like the one in the movie with thoose bumpers???

Martbee
08-19-2003, 06:57 AM
Nope, the one in the movie is quite modified... in those days there were no CATZ Fog lamps in the middle of the front grill and above the head lamp, the bumper aren't quite original (no chrome at all) and no NOS who said "GO BABY GO", no side skirts with hole to let the double side muffler show through, hood is not right... well, this car isn't quite original, but I think someone have already done the ELEANOR... AMT I think... EEEwwwwhhh AMT !! Plan a couple of days to make it look like something good, AMT have some difficulties with reality versus scale model.

sausage
08-19-2003, 08:53 AM
Kunta did it, and it's really good too. http://www.kunta-ripley.com

mn80228
08-19-2003, 11:45 AM
Here is a link to a site about the Eleanor that was used in the movie.

Talks about specific build changes and has some really great reference photos...

http://www.mustangmonthly.com/techarticles/173_0303_mach/

Asmenoth
08-19-2003, 03:43 PM
Alright, time to quit this expensive hobby!!!(yeah, right) I will own that car. ooh yeah...it will be mine, it will be mine.


*note to self: need a better paying job...

:grinyes:

454SS
08-19-2003, 04:51 PM
thats not even the right rims that the car had! Elanore had Edelbrock series 454 rims with bronze spokes.

EMAXX
08-19-2003, 04:53 PM
thats not even the right rims that the car had! Elanore had Edelbrock series 454 rims with bronze spokes.


I think that sometimes you know way too much. :smooch:

454SS
08-19-2003, 05:13 PM
I think that sometimes you know way too much. :smooch: Eugene..... I think that sometimes you know way too little.

EMAXX
08-19-2003, 05:34 PM
Eugene..... I think that sometimes you know way too little.



Yeah, but I'm only 13. I still have plenty of years ahead of me to learn things.

doraemon
08-20-2003, 04:00 AM
WOW!! the one that kunta did....... I have no words!! I'll make mines like this, I know now that amt makes one, but no eleanor, I think that dont gonna put the nos kit with the "go baby go" :p but I DO make the bumpers and the lamps, I have the ones of a 00' subaru WRC montecarlo, so ok this way, but I think that the rims that come with the amt model..... will be a bit small, I gonna check hlj now, but... what size should I use with a mustang??? 17", too much?? 15"?? what size?

doraemon
08-20-2003, 04:11 AM
I've just been checking both gt500 and gt350 models from amt, and... well, the gt350 is easier to get like Eleanor, the front is similar, the gt500 is really different, the wheels are a bit horrible IMO, but the rest of the car... so I think that I'll buy the gt350, I'll only have to change the 350 to 500 on the side, and... change the front the side... but I'll have less to change than in the 500, but still... I need help with the rims

454SS
08-20-2003, 01:02 PM
The rims on the movie car were Edelbrock 454 series 5spoke 18x9 in rear and 18x6 in front aluminum racing rims with bronze spokes.

008
08-21-2003, 01:21 AM
Actually they're 17-inch "GT40" wheels made by PS Engineering over 10 years ago. Edelbrock came out with their own version more recently, the difference being all-chromed or silver and the spokes are close but not exact to the old Halibrands. PSE originally made them for the Cobra replica crowd that wanted the old Halibrand look but in 17". Since Cobras are mostly 5-lug, the PSE wheels were made with 5 spokes instead of the Halibrand's original 6-spoke design which used a knock-off hub instead of lugnuts.

The PSE wheels are exactly copied from the original Halibrands, except for the removal of the 6th spoke. Edelbrock's 454 wheels are much sharper between the spokes but to the casual looker they are identical except for the finish. Neither manufacturer makes them in 18".

Either way, you won't find one in scale.

Honoturtle
08-21-2003, 02:43 AM
Actually they're 17-inch "GT40" wheels made by PS Engineering over 10 years ago. Edelbrock came out with their own version more recently, the difference being all-chromed or silver and the spokes are close but not exact to the old Halibrands. PSE originally made them for the Cobra replica crowd that wanted the old Halibrand look but in 17". Since Cobras are mostly 5-lug, the PSE wheels were made with 5 spokes instead of the Halibrand's original 6-spoke design which used a knock-off hub instead of lugnuts.

The PSE wheels are exactly copied from the original Halibrands, except for the removal of the 6th spoke. Edelbrock's 454 wheels are much sharper between the spokes but to the casual looker they are identical except for the finish. Neither manufacturer makes them in 18".

Either way, you won't find one in scale.
I have a progress thread lurking around here on that car......

Anyway, I'm using the Halibrands that comes with the Fujimi Cobra kit. If you ask me, they look very good on the car. Wish I could afford these though: http://www.racingresin.com/products/acu_stion/acu_wh_003_image.htm almost 30 USD :eek:

doraemon
08-21-2003, 05:06 AM
yes too much money for those rims, so I have to search in hlj for a nice and similar 18" rims, I think that It will be difficult, but btw.... I dont have the model I've found that the 1/24 gt350 from monogram has a front bumper that is really similar to eleanor's one, but...dont have exterior mirrors and... well.. it makes the car a bit ugly, and dont know how to do them, and also dont know where to buy it :frown:

Purpura Delujo
08-21-2003, 05:45 AM
Eugene..... I think that sometimes you know way too little.


HAHAHAHAHA!!! Exactly what I say to my best mate Eugene.

Hawk312 did the GT350H as the Eleanor, check the model gallery out to see it, it won model of the year on AF and a few other awards, including model of the month on Hrmodelers site.

Martbee
08-21-2003, 06:46 AM
...dont have exterior mirrors and... well.. it makes the car a bit ugly, and dont know how to do them, and also dont know where to buy it :frown:

Don't you have any spare parts in a shoe box or something?

doraemon
08-21-2003, 07:30 AM
yes, I have few spare parts, but no mirrors so far, hmmm, I'll check two lemans models that I build 12 years ago, I used a tyre from one (a Nissan Calsonic) to replace a lost tyre of an Castrol Mugen NSX, maybe I can use them if they still have them, but I dont think so.

008
08-21-2003, 12:18 PM
yes too much money for those rims, so I have to search in hlj for a nice and similar 18" rims, I think that It will be difficult, but btw.... I dont have the model I've found that the 1/24 gt350 from monogram has a front bumper that is really similar to eleanor's one, but...dont have exterior mirrors and... well.. it makes the car a bit ugly, and dont know how to do them, and also dont know where to buy it :frown:

Wait, which GT350 are you using? Revell/Monogram's is a '65 and Eleanor is based on a '67. If you need a starting kit use the AMT '67 GT350. It already has the correct taillights and spoiler. The hood is the right shape to begin with and just needs some height added to the scoop then the scoop holes plugged. Unless you just want any fastback with that paint scheme, then use whatever pleases you. I've seen '73s with those body mods.

The R-type front bumper from the RM '65 may or may not fit the AMT, being different scales. You're much better off using the front end that came with the AMT '67 and fill/putty/sand as you see fit.

454SS
08-21-2003, 03:06 PM
Wait, which GT350 are you using? Revell/Monogram's is a '65 and Eleanor is based on a '67. If you need a starting kit use the AMT '67 GT350. It already has the correct taillights and spoiler. The hood is the right shape to begin with and just needs some height added to the scoop then the scoop holes plugged. Unless you just want any fastback with that paint scheme, then use whatever pleases you. I've seen '73s with those body mods.

The R-type front bumper from the RM '65 may or may not fit the AMT, being different scales. You're much better off using the front end that came with the AMT '67 and fill/putty/sand as you see fit. If you want to build it right, you'll need every gt500 from 65-69, since elanore was a composite of parts from all the gt500's. Said so in the making of the film.

008
08-21-2003, 06:57 PM
If you want to build it right, you'll need every gt500 from 65-69, since elanore was a composite of parts from all the gt500's. Said so in the making of the film.

You'd be wasting a lot of money. It's basically a '67 with custom hood, front valance panel, rocker panels, flares, and other assorted body mods plus the '67 Shelby taillights and rear spoiler. There is nothing on that car from 65, 66, 68, 69. Said so by ME who's owned a '67 fastback since '89 and everywhere I go, log on, on the street, at track events, in any Mustang catalog I recieve, people who keep asking me if I'm selling the car, it's "Eleanor this, Eleanor that". I've learned how to turn my car into a replica of one, as much as I despise that riced-out fad car and crappy movie that destroyed 3 '67 fastbacks during its filming. But at least I can provide useful info and not just make stuff up.

doraemon
08-22-2003, 05:49 AM
by the way, I dont have any gt yet, I'm still searching for the best one, I'm not a freak of this model, I only really like the one of the film, and the 65 67... mustangs in general, but it would be the same if I use a 67 a 60 or anyone else if I can get a model like eleanor, but you must have in mind that it would be the first time that I made a mod in a car, so.... the best should be a model that had the front bumper wich I think that its the hardest thing to do from scratch and the one that has it is the monogram gt350R, but dont has mirrors and the rear side airdumps or whatever that has the car are also different, and also the one on the front above the engine (dont know how its said "capo" in english :P ) and further... I cannot get any of this models anywhere!!!! ahhhh :banghead: only in ebay, but one ask me 20.85 for shipping!, silly boy, so... I think that it will be very difficult.

454SS
08-22-2003, 03:53 PM
Can i make a suggestion?? Get the AMT/ERTL 68 gt500 fastback, all that you'll need is the mirrors, mod the front mod the hood.

008
08-22-2003, 04:29 PM
by the way, I dont have any gt yet, I'm still searching for the best one, I'm not a freak of this model, I only really like the one of the film, and the 65 67... mustangs in general, but it would be the same if I use a 67 a 60 or anyone else if I can get a model like eleanor, but you must have in mind that it would be the first time that I made a mod in a car, so.... the best should be a model that had the front bumper wich I think that its the hardest thing to do from scratch and the one that has it is the monogram gt350R, but dont has mirrors and the rear side airdumps or whatever that has the car are also different, and also the one on the front above the engine (dont know how its said "capo" in english

You could just do it with the GT350R if you only like the front end, but the taillights and rear decklid spoiler are completely different.

As far as using the '68 kit, it's all personal preference. The '67 Shelbys (and Eleanor) used '67 Cougar taillights and the '68 Shelby used '65 Thunderbird taillights. The noses are completely different; the '68's is much uglier IMO.

Since you don't really care which year to use then it's up to you. Whichever one seems easier to build to your liking and easier to find.

454SS
08-22-2003, 08:09 PM
Instead of going through all that Bs. Why don't you just by the elanore model by AMT, i think someone said amt makes on.

008
08-23-2003, 03:59 AM
To clarify for those who can't follow all this "bs":

Nobody makes an Eleanor kit, yet. With all the F&F, Nash Bridges, and other media tie-ins I don't know why AMT doesn't release a version using the '67 kit and I'm not making any guesses. Resin casters probably won't touch it because Shelby is a sue-happy bastard that goes after everyone that tries to copy "his" Shelby designs.

If you want to copy the movie car, AMT's 1967 Shelby GT350 is the closest you'll ever get, period.

doraemon
08-25-2003, 07:10 AM
I've searched and seems that noone makes an eleanor kit, so..I have to make my own one. I havent noticed the rear part of the car, I though that was the same, I need to see pics to check the difference between the rear of the gt350r and the gt500 fastback and eleanor and also the front bumper, to see wich is the easiest thing to modify to get the car as close as I can

weaponCIVIC
08-25-2003, 03:33 PM
the gt500 has some stock differences to the 350 , like side scoops on the rear part of the window thing...... :bloated:

overall look for a 500 it is better, you want the engine to go with to dont you?

doraemon
08-26-2003, 04:01 AM
Yes, I rather like it with engine than without, but... do you know a place to buy gt's besides ebay???

killax15
10-14-2003, 09:36 AM
Hi im new here just registerd...my grandfather is recently looking for a dodge charger hemi or a 1967 shelyby gt500...i was helping him search for those 2 cars one day and came across this site..http://www.sandersonsales.com/ ....basically Carroll Shelby who made the gt500 and other shelby vehicles licensed a plant in texas to make a continuation of the shelby gt500...but since its a licensed car vin# shelby they named it into the gt500E the E stands for Eleanor...the gt500E has all new top of the line parts like the track and pinion system from total control that was used in the modified replicas gt500 in Gone in 60 secs thats why the gt500 in the movie were able to hit corners at such good speed....the gt500E base model runs at 80,000,the performance model which has a Shelby Performance 351/408 Windsor, 475 HP for 120,000,and theres the last model called super snake which cost 175,000 which has the Shelby Vortech® Supercharger, provides 750hp this car can dam near lift off the ground...now i know you guys are probaly asking the same questions im asking..like is this car really valuable if you spend this much money on these cars..well i called the company up and they said that it shouldnt lose value because it has a shelby vin# which means these cars will be in the shelby history book only also these cars are being made limited.....I dont think its worth it unless you have the money so i told my grandfather to buy the original gt500 and then buy the official Eleanor body kit from Unique performances....let me know what you guys think about this...

Layla's Keeper
10-14-2003, 12:50 PM
I've got a quick question. Why doesn't anyone build the REAL Eleanor? You know, the yellow 1971 Mach 1 Mustang that they used in the original 1974 film?

Honoturtle
10-14-2003, 01:13 PM
I would, but the only kit I know of is hard to come by....:(
http://www.hlj.com/cgi-perl/hljpage.cgi?ARI31032

killax15
10-14-2003, 02:28 PM
lol can anyone give me advice though on what i posted previously thnx

Bloodhound
10-15-2003, 02:23 AM
you'd be "Hello my pillow's name is friendly pete" insane to modify an original GT500, as I've heard one person say once when speaking of this. they would be numbered in their hundreds today and you'd never get your money back once the originality is gone. it would end up being cheaper and easier to get a decent 67-68 fastback, strip it, add bodykit parts (most are now being reproduced due to their popularity) and paint, a small block windsor stretched out for some bigblock power, do the steering conversion, buy a shelby interior kit and whack on the steering wheel(a 9" lecarra woodgrain) 11" sport comp 11,000RPM tacho and etc. decent fastbacks can be had for $10,000 while Rough GT500s can be grabbed for up to ten times this. If you have a question about building the model, PM me, I have a huge amount of photos of the car and I also know of where you can find the parts you need.

Lapster
11-04-2003, 05:03 PM
Hi, I've just seen again gone in 60 seconds, and... well... I LOVE THE GT500!!!! I want one!!!, but like I cannot have a 1:1.... a 1/24 should be enough for now :iceslolan . Anyone of you knows where to buy one?? I know that revell-monogram has a 1/24 GT350, but I want a GT500, or there is only a difference in the engine?? cause if the only difference is the engine..... or the GT500 comes like the one in the movie with thoose bumpers???

I am having Shelby build me an Elanore. It will be tagged a GT500E. There are 400 being built and all will be registered in the CSE. I had dinner with Caroll Shelby last month in Dallas. To answer your question about an Elanore model.... yes there is a die cast model. I was given one signed by him. I can probably get another one (without his signature). The die cast is not 100% exactly like and Elanore, but its close enough.

Lapster
11-04-2003, 05:11 PM
Hi im new here just registerd...my grandfather is recently looking for a dodge charger hemi or a 1967 shelyby gt500...i was helping him search for those 2 cars one day and came across this site..http://www.sandersonsales.com/ ....basically Carroll Shelby who made the gt500 and other shelby vehicles licensed a plant in texas to make a continuation of the shelby gt500...but since its a licensed car vin# shelby they named it into the gt500E the E stands for Eleanor...the gt500E has all new top of the line parts like the track and pinion system from total control that was used in the modified replicas gt500 in Gone in 60 secs thats why the gt500 in the movie were able to hit corners at such good speed....the gt500E base model runs at 80,000,the performance model which has a Shelby Performance 351/408 Windsor, 475 HP for 120,000,and theres the last model called super snake which cost 175,000 which has the Shelby Vortech® Supercharger, provides 750hp this car can dam near lift off the ground...now i know you guys are probaly asking the same questions im asking..like is this car really valuable if you spend this much money on these cars..well i called the company up and they said that it shouldnt lose value because it has a shelby vin# which means these cars will be in the shelby history book only also these cars are being made limited.....I dont think its worth it unless you have the money so i told my grandfather to buy the original gt500 and then buy the official Eleanor body kit from Unique performances....let me know what you guys think about this...

I am having #54 built. I attended the grand opening of the facility in Dallas last month and had dinner with Shelby himself. Make no mistake,,, these cars far and away are better than a stock 67 Shelby Mustang or a 67 standard Mustang. I noticed that you did not mention that only 400 Elanore GT500E's and 75 Supersnakes are being built....

rlobo1971
11-05-2003, 11:17 AM
Hi!!!!

I have one friend and he make one eleonor if you want see please visit these page

http://www.modelersite.com/gallery/ShelbyEleanor_2003-10-30/ShelbyEleanor_2003-10-30.htm

86_SR5
11-05-2003, 11:30 AM
I am having Shelby build me an Elanore. It will be tagged a GT500E. There are 400 being built and all will be registered in the CSE. I had dinner with Caroll Shelby last month in Dallas. To answer your question about an Elanore model.... yes there is a die cast model. I was given one signed by him. I can probably get another one (without his signature). The die cast is not 100% exactly like and Elanore, but its close enough.
Isn't he dead?

Double_S
11-05-2003, 02:02 PM
Hi!!!!

I have one friend and he make one eleonor if you want see please visit these page

http://www.modelersite.com/gallery/ShelbyEleanor_2003-10-30/ShelbyEleanor_2003-10-30.htm


WOW! :smokin: :22yikes:

Double_S
11-05-2003, 02:05 PM
I've got a quick question. Why doesn't anyone build the REAL Eleanor? You know, the yellow 1971 Mach 1 Mustang that they used in the original 1974 film?

I have seen some diecast ones on Ebay recently.

blades_roe
05-12-2004, 02:53 PM
Hi, can you find out from your friend what rims and tires he used for his kit?

Thanks,
blades

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