Fixed Speed Camera Update
RazorGTR
11-28-2001, 11:27 PM
Well Nzers it is official. Those bloody stupid fixed speed cameras are going to be back in full opertation agian probably in time for the Christmas and New Year's holidays.
Another addition is you won't be able to challange the fine this time around so easily as they will be certed quite often so if you get the picture of your car in the mail this time around ya is all done! Plus they are planning to have ALL of them in full operation 24hrs with the limit set at 10kms over.
Another addition is you won't be able to challange the fine this time around so easily as they will be certed quite often so if you get the picture of your car in the mail this time around ya is all done! Plus they are planning to have ALL of them in full operation 24hrs with the limit set at 10kms over.
Spec2 Girl
11-29-2001, 12:03 AM
I'd have to say that they're a pain in the ass!! All it does is slow people down for the time that they are over the speed camera lines in the road and then they speed up again! Just another revenue collecting device for the cops if you ask me! :mad:
jasestu
11-29-2001, 02:17 AM
Well, I had to vote for "They work and slow people down."
Because:
1. They work (i.e. they take photos)
2. They slow people down.
But of course as FTO points out they only slow you down while you're driving over the mag-pad thinees. Hmmm, so perhaps I should have picked the needless braking one. :)
Still, the advantage of needless braking is the hard accelerating that must follow. :D Heh heh hee...
Because:
1. They work (i.e. they take photos)
2. They slow people down.
But of course as FTO points out they only slow you down while you're driving over the mag-pad thinees. Hmmm, so perhaps I should have picked the needless braking one. :)
Still, the advantage of needless braking is the hard accelerating that must follow. :D Heh heh hee...
mmcc
11-29-2001, 05:07 AM
well you can do 70Km/hr .. until you reach that 2 lines on the ground which you drive over at 40km/hr thne speed up again :)
so far i have got 1 speeding ticket from those damn stationary speed camera thingees..
so far i have got 1 speeding ticket from those damn stationary speed camera thingees..
primera man
11-29-2001, 06:25 AM
I agree with them in some of the streets we have here to slow people down around schools etc........but generally i think they are a waste of time. Everyone knows were they are because they stick a sign up to say so ...... what a joke.
As we all have said....you race up to the lines, hit the brakes to drive over the lines then speed up again.
If they want to slow ppls down......just have a car placed anywhere at anytime witrh a camera in the back.
But out on the open road....common sense is all that is needed
As we all have said....you race up to the lines, hit the brakes to drive over the lines then speed up again.
If they want to slow ppls down......just have a car placed anywhere at anytime witrh a camera in the back.
But out on the open road....common sense is all that is needed
YogsVR4
11-29-2001, 10:07 AM
Lazy government wanting to line its pocket without actually doing any work. "Sorry sir, but thats a picture of your car. So you owe us $100"
AEstud
11-29-2001, 10:26 AM
The government can't even put our property taxes that goes towards public schools in the right place. This is just another ploy of our wondeful gov. to make themselves rich.
MattyG
11-29-2001, 02:51 PM
I think speed limits are there for a reason, and the speed camera's enforce those limits. If you think "your" speed limit should be higher than everyone else's, then go drive/live someplace else.
I would be annoyed however if the money gained from speed camera's wasn't channeled back into driver education and training - just put into the slush fund to pay people who are long term unemployed - that ain't fair at all.
I would be annoyed however if the money gained from speed camera's wasn't channeled back into driver education and training - just put into the slush fund to pay people who are long term unemployed - that ain't fair at all.
gang$tarr
11-29-2001, 04:14 PM
total invasion of privacy :angryfire
AEstud
11-30-2001, 09:35 AM
How the heck is that a total invasion of privacy????????:confused:
RazorGTR
11-30-2001, 01:55 PM
I would not say invasion of privacy. More just a pain in the ass on the open roads. In town I can understand, but even so morons smack the brakes and their NOT EVEN speeding!
I have been behind drivers going the speed limit and they will slow down to like 10 kms under! The damn thing will not snap you until you reach 10 over. Not to mention all imported Jap cars that come to New Zealand have speedos that read 10% higher than your actually going.
I have been behind drivers going the speed limit and they will slow down to like 10 kms under! The damn thing will not snap you until you reach 10 over. Not to mention all imported Jap cars that come to New Zealand have speedos that read 10% higher than your actually going.
Polygon
11-30-2001, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by AEstud
How the heck is that a total invasion of privacy????????:confused:
That is what I was wondering. Once you leave your property you have no privacy, thus why it is called public!
How the heck is that a total invasion of privacy????????:confused:
That is what I was wondering. Once you leave your property you have no privacy, thus why it is called public!
gang$tarr
11-30-2001, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by AEstud
How the heck is that a total invasion of privacy????????:confused:
well we had them here for about a month than they took them off because people complained that it is an invasion of their privacy..
How the heck is that a total invasion of privacy????????:confused:
well we had them here for about a month than they took them off because people complained that it is an invasion of their privacy..
ragt20
11-30-2001, 06:08 PM
U guys are lucky...we've had them in the Uk for a couple of years now...the police's original point of putting them was to slow people down near high accident rate roads, but when they found they can make a lot of easy money from this they started popin up everywhere...and the money they make they use to put more out..:mad:....wots worse is when U have them on long stretches of roads where you got variable speed limits, if you don't pay attention to the speed limits, u can get caught out very easily, as where earlier on the same stretch of road u could do 50, a small section suddenly appears where the limit is 30 and so on........:mad: :devil:
ragt20
11-30-2001, 06:12 PM
one thing though, there are websites, and in some car mags, positions of all the fixed cameras can be found, so U can workout prior to your journey, where U will expect to find them.......:lol2:
plus people who use the same route everyday know where they are, so know exactly when to slow down and speed up:)......may beat the speed trap but could cause accident, if driver behind U doesn;t know why you r suddenly slowin....:mad:
plus people who use the same route everyday know where they are, so know exactly when to slow down and speed up:)......may beat the speed trap but could cause accident, if driver behind U doesn;t know why you r suddenly slowin....:mad:
ragt20
11-30-2001, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by gang$tarr
total invasion of privacy :angryfire
well G$ has a point here, but not with these cameras.....now the police know they are on to a winner here for makin easy money they've been developin new cameras........:mad: and these U can't dodge......how u may ask? ...well the existing cameras work an camera film...so the police have to regularly change the film etc to get the speeders..so maybe when the film is full and the police haven't checked u could escape or because these were changed after a while peeps could say it wasn't them driving..but with the new ones they are digital...no need for changing film, the pics are sent straight from the camera to police, and U get a letter for the fine the following day......and the worst bit about these cameras is they are positioned with at every couple of miles on the same stretch of road so once u pass one your no plate is taken....and as you pass each sensor your speed is recorded, as you don' know where they are, U can't slow down to avoid them, once they have your plate....they could follow your entire journey.......
they've only been tried on one stretch of road so far...and on the first day a couple of thousand speeders were caught.........raked in a lot of money for the police too......:devil: :devil:
total invasion of privacy :angryfire
well G$ has a point here, but not with these cameras.....now the police know they are on to a winner here for makin easy money they've been developin new cameras........:mad: and these U can't dodge......how u may ask? ...well the existing cameras work an camera film...so the police have to regularly change the film etc to get the speeders..so maybe when the film is full and the police haven't checked u could escape or because these were changed after a while peeps could say it wasn't them driving..but with the new ones they are digital...no need for changing film, the pics are sent straight from the camera to police, and U get a letter for the fine the following day......and the worst bit about these cameras is they are positioned with at every couple of miles on the same stretch of road so once u pass one your no plate is taken....and as you pass each sensor your speed is recorded, as you don' know where they are, U can't slow down to avoid them, once they have your plate....they could follow your entire journey.......
they've only been tried on one stretch of road so far...and on the first day a couple of thousand speeders were caught.........raked in a lot of money for the police too......:devil: :devil:
gang$tarr
11-30-2001, 07:02 PM
that's such a violation of your rights, isn't something like that against the constitution? i think that's part of the reason they have taken them off our roads, becaues it's talking away peoples rights. The government shouldn't be watching every move you make
soon they're gunna have cameras recording if you take a shit in the woods for gods sake :)
soon they're gunna have cameras recording if you take a shit in the woods for gods sake :)
ragt20
11-30-2001, 07:05 PM
thats the reason only a couple of roads hve these cameras...as there have been a lot of complaints re privacy laws etc...thus yet not all roads have them.......they really rip-off the motorist in this country..:mad:
Rich
11-30-2001, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by gang$tarr
soon they're gunna have cameras recording if you take a shit in the woods for gods sake :)
LOL!!!!!
:hehe: :hehe: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :hehe: :hehe:
I cracked up soo hard when I read that. :D
soon they're gunna have cameras recording if you take a shit in the woods for gods sake :)
LOL!!!!!
:hehe: :hehe: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :hehe: :hehe:
I cracked up soo hard when I read that. :D
gang$tarr
12-02-2001, 03:01 PM
it's true though.... soon the government is gunna know every move we make, we're all gunna become slaves
RazorGTR
12-02-2001, 10:11 PM
You would be suprised at how much the government already knows about you mate.
Fast fact. Every person born in the US since 1975 was figner and foot printed at the hospital. Then your prints were sent off to the FBI and entered in a national Data base which it had kept secrete for over 20 years until someone actually finally blew the whistle on it. This was an illegal act but never prosecuited, yet the FBI continues to maintain this data base and still updating it vertually every day! Scary.
The US military has ove 30 downword looking satilites but maintains only 5 exhist for spying on nation security risk nations and groups. Yea right!
Fast fact. Every person born in the US since 1975 was figner and foot printed at the hospital. Then your prints were sent off to the FBI and entered in a national Data base which it had kept secrete for over 20 years until someone actually finally blew the whistle on it. This was an illegal act but never prosecuited, yet the FBI continues to maintain this data base and still updating it vertually every day! Scary.
The US military has ove 30 downword looking satilites but maintains only 5 exhist for spying on nation security risk nations and groups. Yea right!
Seraph
12-03-2001, 06:47 AM
Speed camera = Greed camera.
If the government really wanted to get the road toll down then the sensible thing to do is to teach people how to drive. New Zealand has some of the poorest drivers in the world. It becomes staggeringly obvious when you visit a European country and return to NZ. The money made from speed fines doesnt go towards driver education or improvement of roads. The government is taking the easy (and profitable) way out - instead of teaching drivers how to drive at high speeds they are simply making them drive slowly. Slow driving doesnt mean safe driving though. Today I read the local newspaper ( Howick Times, Monday, front page) and realised that the morons have lost the plot all together. This concerns the stretch of the Whitford - Maraetai road that has been in the papers quite often recently, due to it having a large amount of accidents. Instead of spending the money to improve the road, or to build an alternate one, they are planning to launch another advertisement programme, something like "Speak up and live - Shut up and die" - basically they want the passengers to speak up when the driver is speeding and tell them to slow down. This bullshit apparently is going to be put up on billboards around the Eastern area of Auckland (which, as it happens, has a high speeding average). The dipshits who came up with this idea need to be f^@$ed with a very large pre-heated metallic dildo up the arse, and then sacked for wasting money that could otherwise be used to save lives.
As for white box speed cameras on poles - these were always there, if i'm not mistaken. Yet I dont think theres ANY point whatsoever in them, even for making money, because I've never seen anyone speed past a pole mounted speed camera. Theyve been in the same place for many years and absolutely everyone knows where they are.
If the government really wanted to get the road toll down then the sensible thing to do is to teach people how to drive. New Zealand has some of the poorest drivers in the world. It becomes staggeringly obvious when you visit a European country and return to NZ. The money made from speed fines doesnt go towards driver education or improvement of roads. The government is taking the easy (and profitable) way out - instead of teaching drivers how to drive at high speeds they are simply making them drive slowly. Slow driving doesnt mean safe driving though. Today I read the local newspaper ( Howick Times, Monday, front page) and realised that the morons have lost the plot all together. This concerns the stretch of the Whitford - Maraetai road that has been in the papers quite often recently, due to it having a large amount of accidents. Instead of spending the money to improve the road, or to build an alternate one, they are planning to launch another advertisement programme, something like "Speak up and live - Shut up and die" - basically they want the passengers to speak up when the driver is speeding and tell them to slow down. This bullshit apparently is going to be put up on billboards around the Eastern area of Auckland (which, as it happens, has a high speeding average). The dipshits who came up with this idea need to be f^@$ed with a very large pre-heated metallic dildo up the arse, and then sacked for wasting money that could otherwise be used to save lives.
As for white box speed cameras on poles - these were always there, if i'm not mistaken. Yet I dont think theres ANY point whatsoever in them, even for making money, because I've never seen anyone speed past a pole mounted speed camera. Theyve been in the same place for many years and absolutely everyone knows where they are.
ragt20
12-03-2001, 08:00 AM
well all the cameras here in the uk used to be grey and well
placed behind road signs and bushes make u think...but now
they r startin to paint them bright red and yellow stripes.....
so that people can see them well in advance and not have to stop suddenly
placed behind road signs and bushes make u think...but now
they r startin to paint them bright red and yellow stripes.....
so that people can see them well in advance and not have to stop suddenly
moondog
12-03-2001, 02:37 PM
The thing that really pisses me off is the statement that now the fixed cameras are coming back into operation here, they will have to "work extra hard" to "make up the shortfall" :confused: What freaking "shortfall"?!??!?!??!?!! Dumb dumb dumb. If that statement isn't an admission that the sole reason for the cameras is revenue-collecting, then I dunno what it is :piss-artists. :mad: :angryfire:
ragt20
12-03-2001, 04:01 PM
i'll try and find the page on the web i'd seen a while ago where you even had some coppers admitting that the cameras were a money making thing....have to find that link for you guys.....very interestin readin....:)
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