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12 Volt DC outlet


b-b00gie
11-28-2001, 12:32 PM
Any help would be appreciated...


I've been trying to find some specs on the 12 Volt DC outlet in our cars, but have been unsuccessful.


I'd like to know if the output is exactly 12 Volts DC or a little off. Not sure if there's any voltage regulator which brings it down to exactly 12V. I'm also looking for the amperage ratings for the outlet.


I guess I could just take some voltage readings, but I cant find my voltmeter. :(

nis.k.a.
11-28-2001, 03:53 PM
Just out of curiousity, why does it need to be exactly 12 volts? You would be hard pressed to get a rock solid 12 all the time, unless some modification was done. I run my PS2 off an AC inverter and it works just fine. Altough the voltage is not exactly 12 (mostly in the range of 12.4-14.5), it really doesn't matter that much, just as long as the inverter has a decent range of voltage and the amps to support the draw of the PS2 (or whatever accessory).

b-b00gie
11-28-2001, 10:55 PM
Reason is: I'm installing a Gamecube which runs on 12V DC (its power supply is external)

So I figured I could skip the power inverter and the Gamecube's power supply (which changes the 115V back to 12V) and just wire the GC to 12V directly...


Anyhow, what I was wondering was if those 12V outlets were regulated or not... maybe i'll make my own voltage regulator if need be.

wickedG20
11-28-2001, 11:08 PM
Why not just go straight with the inverter?

I think the game cube will absorb more power if you wire it directly to the dc outlet. If I am not mistaken, the inverter generates its own power to to run the system and it doesn't need as much power from the 12 volt source itself.

I have a dreamcast with a 250 watt inverter, works like a charm. The hardest part is actually figuring out where to put the system hehe. At first I wanted to custom install it in the glove compartment but it was to big for it.

I found a perfect spot. Its in the back, sitting on that little hump. It is mounted there and the wires run under the passanger seat (including the controller wire) looks wicked :)

peace

b-b00gie
11-28-2001, 11:35 PM
If I could skip the inverter it'd be so much easier and cleaner. No messy wires.

I just dont see the point in converting 12V DC to 115 V back to 12VDC for the GC.


The gamecube unit runs on 12V, 3.25A and uses 35W

:rolleyes:

wickedG20
11-28-2001, 11:49 PM
I agree with you there, but if the inverter is going to conserve some of the car's power it would be worth it to get one.

nis.k.a.
11-28-2001, 11:54 PM
Since the GC can run off 12V, it must have a fuse for that right? If it doesn't, I'd go with the inverter. Mine has low-power warning and is fused. If they intended for the GC to be installed in a car, they know that the voltage will fluctuate. I'm positive that it will work by just connecting to any 12V wire just make sure you have it fused. The 12V sign is the universal for car use. They know that it's not going to be 12V solid.

AznVirus
11-29-2001, 12:36 AM
wow doesnt suck that many amps either, just put in a good 7.5 amp fuse and youll be fine. you have a monitor for the GC?

wickedG20
11-29-2001, 12:46 AM
I think he is planning on putting 2 Monitors in his headrests. I was going to do that but then decided its not worth it since I don't travel with a lot of people so I just put 1 monitor in front.

nis.k.a.
11-29-2001, 02:03 AM
Me too, one monitor right above the deck.

b-b00gie
11-29-2001, 08:09 AM
I have a 7" Alpine flip out and 2 6.5" Alpine monitors waiting for headrests...



Anyhow.. the GC wasnt "designed" to be used in a car, I just happened to notice that it runs on 12V since its power supply is external.

I might go w/ the whole inverter setup just to be safe, but I really dont want to. I have no room left... anywhere! Too much stuff installed in my car.


I also installed XM radio last week. NICE! :) www.xmradio.com

jmgladden
11-29-2001, 11:04 AM
I was thinking about doing the whole XM Radio deal in my car. I work at Best Buy, so I get the equipment fairly cheap. Is the quality as good as people are saying? Personally I don't believe any of those jokers at work, most of them don't have the slightest clue what they are talking about.

b-b00gie
11-29-2001, 11:18 AM
the sound quality is definately way better than FM. Close to CD quality... no background fuzz at all. Sound quality is like a CD made from MP3's


There's 100 stations for now which you'll probably listen to maybe 10 to 15 on a regular basis. There is usually one 30 second commercial every 30 minutes.


My only complaint about it so far is that it doesnt work in my parking garage at work but thats only because of several tall buildings surrounding it :rolleyes:

jmgladden
11-29-2001, 11:22 AM
I was told that it works nation wide (middle of nowhere), not just in select areas. Do you know if this is true?

b-b00gie
11-29-2001, 11:28 AM
Yep... it works everywhere....

There's 2 huge satelittes above the US and XM has been installing repeaters (dishes) on buildings for 2 years now or so to help keep the signal strong and insure quality when they launched this summer...


I got this from XMradio.com


Why Reception Stays Strong
Originating at the XM broadcast center, XM's broadcast signal is beamed from two huge earth-station antennas to our broadcast satellites, known affectionately as "Rock" and "Roll". But despite their names, these satellites don't move; positioned more than 22,000 miles above the earth in geostationary orbit, their beams combine to span the entire contiguous U.S. while remaining stationary with respect to the land below. This enables XM's signal to reach from coast to coast. Ground antennas, or repeaters, keep the signal strong in challenging locales such as urban canyons.



Bi-coastal satellites?
Yes. Rock and Roll are positioned over east and west coasts and both keep the entire contiguous U.S. continuously within broadcast range.

Can you hear the focus?
Definitely. The XM satellites' fixed orbits ensure a focused and consistent signal, eliminating broadcast irregularities associated with moving satellites.

Power-hungry?
Rock and Roll are the most powerful commercial satellites ever, beaming 10 megawatts of equivalent transmitted power back to earth. They were built by Boeing Satellite Systems, the world's leading commercial manufacturer of satellites.

lloyd_nickens
11-29-2001, 01:10 PM
Actually if I am not mistaken the GC's design did have portability included with it. That would explain why it is so small and runs off of 12VDC. Nintendo hasn't been know for making coincidences. ;)

jmgladden
11-29-2001, 08:52 PM
Nintendo hasn't been know for making coincidences.

No, just making bad choices on their media format...

lloyd_nickens
11-30-2001, 12:28 PM
true true

b-b00gie
11-30-2001, 12:47 PM
BTW...


I solved the problem... I found a 12V outlet adapter which regulates voltage to various settings and one of them happens to be 12V :)

jmgladden
11-30-2001, 01:00 PM
Cool. BTW, where you going to mount the GC?

b-b00gie
11-30-2001, 01:03 PM
I'm experimenting for now...


:devil:

jmgladden
11-30-2001, 01:20 PM
Out of curiosity, is the GC a top or front loader?

lloyd_nickens
11-30-2001, 01:30 PM
top

GtRider
12-05-2001, 10:33 AM
Game Cube sucks!!!!
buy a PS2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

b-b00gie
12-05-2001, 10:40 AM
I have owned PS2 since it came out. I also own Gamecube and Xbox.

I've always been a Playstation fan 100%, but both of those other systems are far better I must admit, but this isnt the place to debate over that. :right:

A380Driver
12-05-2001, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by b-b00gie
I have owned PS2 since it came out. I also own Gamecube and Xbox.

I've always been a Playstation fan 100%, but both of those other systems are far better I must admit, but this isnt the place to debate over that. :right:


Woaaaaa no way is Xbox better than PS2 :) sorrrrry Xbox has like half the processor that PS2 has...plus...its a microsoft product..yuck...hehe im waiting for the "blue screen" to pop up on someones game.

b-b00gie
12-05-2001, 11:21 AM
Well lets get a few things straight...

PS2 is my favorite system, mainly due to exclusive titles...


Xbox (my least favorite mainly due to the controller) has WAY better graphics than PS2 will EVER have.

Even Sony will tell you that the Xbox is more powerful.


The only thing that is comparable on the Xbox and PS2 is the main CPU speed. Xbox has a 733MHz Intel chip while PS2 relies on a 292MHz RISC chip. Those two are comparable.... the speeds seem like a big difference, but the architecture is whats important, RISC vs CISC.

However, graphics-wize the PS2 loses big. Both systems use a CISC graphics chip. The PS2 is 125Mhz, while the Xbox is 250MHz. The Xbox has double the processor memory (32MB vs 16MB). The Xbox has double the memory bandwidth of PS2 (6.4GB/sec vs 3.2GB/sec). Did we get to polygon processing yet? Xbox: 125M/sec, PS2 66M/sec...



I still love my PS2, but it is definately the most UNDER powered of the 3.

jmgladden
12-05-2001, 01:30 PM
b-bOOgie is correct, the PS2 is the weakest of the three in terms of power.

Like he said, this isn't the place to debate this topic. Every system has good games, some more than others, but good games nonetheless. Every system also out performs another in some area, not every system can be perfect.

If you are lucky enough to be able to afford all three systems, then more power to you. If not, don't rag on someone simply because they don't like exactly what you do, just be happy with what you have.

I personally plan on buying an XBox in the future, but would like to wait and see what genres excel on the system. If it doesn't ever suit me, then I will invest the money elsewhere.

As of now, I personally don't think the graphics are all that hot on XBox or GC, but they just came out a month ago. Look how crappy the PS2 looked when it first came out. All systems need time to progress.

nis.k.a.
12-05-2001, 10:51 PM
NO DEBATE..........2 letters 1 number. GT3

lloyd_nickens
12-07-2001, 06:08 AM
mmmmmm GT3 Too bad it doesn't have our car in it (what an oversight, who should we hang???)

b-b00gie
12-07-2001, 06:31 AM
Yeah.. I cant believe they dropped the Primera :(

nis.k.a.
12-07-2001, 03:36 PM
At least Gran Turismo 2 did.

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