Speedchannel

am i the only one sick of speedvision and thier gay european IRL/F1/CART/F3ETC. back when they were speedvision they had all sorts of cool car shows but now its all infomercials

I know what you mean man, it does get pretty old after a while. I do, however, enjoy watching the rally cross races.

Is anyone sick of their stupid Nascar stuff? Nascar is about as boring as watching algae grow - (God forgive me) but I'd even rather watch solar powered cars race!!!

Originally posted by 2strokebloke
Is anyone sick of their stupid Nascar stuff? Nascar is about as boring as watching algae grow - (God forgive me) but I'd even rather watch solar powered cars race!!!

I'm sick of it too. They should get their own channel and leave Speedvision as it was. I don't watch it anymore.

Originally posted by 2strokebloke
Is anyone sick of their stupid Nascar stuff? Nascar is about as boring as watching algae grow - (God forgive me) but I'd even rather watch solar powered cars race!!!
Yep, I agree. They may as well call it Nascar TV since that all they ever show. And might I add that Nascar fans are so much worse than the biggest sports fan. They put every number sticker of their favorite driver ten times over on their car. I saw some guy with Dale Earnharts number 3 on his truck, he had like 12 stickers on the back of his truck. Come on guy theres no need for that, one is enough.

Originally posted by Hobbes


I'm sick of it too. They should get their own channel and leave Speedvision as it was. I don't watch it anymore.

Unfortunately they have their own channel...it's called "Speed."

I meant to say that Nascar should have their own channel (Nascar TV as it is written) and have Speed TV back to Speedvision.

are you saying nascar is not fast?

Originally posted by badassgremlin
are you saying nascar is not fast?

No, but it is boring as all Canada to watch.

yet more exiting thatn watching german dudes that can't speak english ride on 2lb. cars and go 200mph with no effort whatsoever it's to electronic and to european to be broadcast in america most americans couldnt giva shit about them:rolleyes: i for one love nascar and watch it every sunday along with most people i know (my car guy homies) its plenty exiting to me:cool:

Watching people drive around an oval is about as exciting (perhaps even less so) as watching a toy train circle a christmass tree. Perhaps this merry-go-round equivalent to motorsport is exciting for you - but it leaves me wishing for something more entertaining.

well that explains why it's one of the most popular sports in america now.....and yes canada is boring

Originally posted by badassgremlin
and yes canada is boring

W3RD and we like it that way BIOTCH.

:thefinger

well ok then BIYOTCH:thefinger

wait Im confused, didnt they change the name from "speedvision" to "speed" now, or are they two dofferent channels? I know I have speed and they have WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAY to many nascar shows and races thats its ridicoulous, I mean almost every other major channel (abc, nbc, espn, etc.) carry nascar and I dont see why speed has to too. I dont see how people can wacth them turn left for four hours, even the road course racing sucks.:thefinger

Originally posted by badassgremlin
yet more exiting thatn watching german dudes that can't speak english ride on 2lb. cars and go 200mph with no effort whatsoever it's to electronic and to european to be broadcast in america most americans couldnt giva shit about them:rolleyes: i for one love nascar and watch it every sunday along with most people i know (my car guy homies) its plenty exiting to me:cool:
I'm guessing your talking about Formula 1. No effort? Ha, i'd be will to bet its more difficult to drive around a twisting and turning track than drive in a circle. Oh well everyone likes what they like but I still say Nascar sucks.

I'm sick of NASKAR! If it's so great why did Toyota have to go to one of their oldest forklift engine factories, that still has carb making capabilities, so they make an engine with 50 year old technology to enter the truck series. How lame is that? :rolleyes:

Originally posted by badassgremlin
well ok then BIYOTCH:thefinger

Good for you, have a cookie.

:rolleyes:

:thefinger

i've had free cable for almost 2 years now and all of a sudden we get the speedchannel (or whatever it's called) i check it out once in awhile and usually it is nascar (boring) but i have caught a few rally races and recently a GT race. that's enough to make me very happy. i love free cable.

yes i say "no effort" because everything there is computerized god they have to push a button to shift and for the clutch thats not a car that a computer on wheels.

Originally posted by badassgremlin
yes i say "no effort" because everything there is computerized god they have to push a button to shift and for the clutch thats not a car that a computer on wheels.

That's a bogus point, but let's pretend it was valid. 99% of NASKAR races are on ovals, you going to tell me they shift gears all the around the oval, the whole race?

Whenever they do road race and actually have drive the car, shift and brake with some evidence of skill, it's usually the drivers who have open wheel backgrounds that rise to the top.

NASKAR is an antiquated dinosaur series which contributes zero to the cars consumers buy today, they ignore sensible safety issues and cater mostly to the base simpleton population of bubba's.

Go to a kart track that has the good, fast karts that have automatic transmissions, see how difficult and physically demanding it is to pass your opponent and then keep them behind you. What ever you feel there would magnified 1000 times in an F1 or CART car, real race cars, not 3500 lb. dinosaurs.

don't get me started:bloated: somone close this thread before this gets ugly it wasnt ment to get that way but whatever:confused:

Originally posted by Veyron


That's a bogus point, but let's pretend it was valid. 99% of NASKAR races are on ovals, you going to tell me they shift gears all the around the oval, the whole race?

Whenever they do road race and actually have drive the car, shift and brake with some evidence of skill, it's usually the drivers who have open wheel backgounds that rise to the top.

NASKAR is an anequated dinosaur series which contributes zero to the cars consumers buy today, they ignore sensible safety issues and cater mostly to the base simpleton population of bubba's.

Go to a kart track that has the good, fast karts that have automatic transmissions, see how difficult and physically demanding it is to pass your opponent and then keep them behind you. What ever you feel there would magnified 1000 times in an F1 or CART car, real race cars, not 3500 lb. dinosaurs.
W3RD

has anyone herd about another car channel thats coming out called wheels tv? i herd about it in motor trend hopefully it will have more hotrodding/tuning shows then speed

Originally posted by badassgremlin
has anyone herd about another car channel thats coming out called wheels tv? i herd about it in motor trend hopefully it will have more hotrodding/tuning shows then speed

Gee, this was hard to find. :rolleyes:
http://www.wheelstv.net/index.htm

American Thunder!
Racing is Racing

How often do you people watch Nascar? I'm guessing never. *sighs* I'll try to explain this so even you simple minded people can understand. Nascar has teams, just like any other racing sport, they utilize them to the second, Dale Earnheardt died so his teamate could win, by blocking off Ernie Ervin, got pushed up into the wall. They use all kinds of different strategies, such as fueling, when to come in to pit. As much as you would hate to deny it, it's actually very popular. And i'm not a bubba redneck, you twit. It's very entertaining, and there are road tracks in Nascar, dont talk bad about something you know nothing about.

How often do you people watch Nascar? I'm guessing never. *sighs* I'll try to explain this so even you simple minded people can understand. Nascar has teams, just like any other racing sport, they utilize them to the second, Dale Earnheardt died so his teamate could win, by blocking off Ernie Ervin, got pushed up into the wall. They use all kinds of different strategies, such as fueling, when to come in to pit. As much as you would hate to deny it, it's actually very popular. And i'm not a bubba redneck, you twit. It's very entertaining, and there are road tracks in Nascar, dont talk bad about something you know nothing about.

:rofl: :lol: :cwm27: :screwy: The question is, do YOU ever watch NASKAR, Ernie hasn't raced in years and probably wasn't even at the track when E got killed! :screwy: :grinno:

:rofl: :lol: :cwm27: :screwy: The question is, do YOU ever watch NASKAR, Ernie hasn't raced in years and probably wasn't even at the track when E got killed! :screwy: :grinno:

You're right, it was sterling marlin.

yeah, nascar has road courses. but only two out of thirty-six races are road races. next year is a big year for nascar, new series sponsor (nextel), new fuel supplier (sunoco), new oil suplier (mobil 1), new schedule, and possibly a revamped point system.

Speed TV is definitely not the Speedvision of old.

That's what happens when NEW owners take over.

NEWSCORP or FOX bought a significant interest in
Speed at the same time they brokered the deal
with Fox television to get NASCAR away from CBS
and ESPN, this also included the split-season deal
with NBC/TNT.

NASCAR is the most attended people spectated
sport in the world. It out performs World soccer,
and the NFL. Somebody seems to like it. I'm not
sure it can be equated with old-school redneck
mentality anymore. Go see what the tickets cost
for a family of 4, for the Daytona 500. It ain't cheap.

Ratings for FOX and NBC/TNT seem to be increasing
every year. What does that mean...? More NASCAR
on TV...like Speed TV. When they peak or ratings
flatten off, you might see Speed pull back some, but
I think we are a long way from that.

I like watching a little bit of everything. WRC, all the
open wheel circuits, and yes NASCAR, but the races
mostly,(not the deluge of pre/post race analysis) of
course I love watching the American Le Mans Series.

btw...as far the infomericals. That's not some lame
'fill' programming, those advertisers pay a fortune for
that airtime. It's serious amount of revenue for some.

:smile:

i only like the show autoweek and all of those shows that have test drives in them especially if it's a Ferrari.

I have seen enough Nascrap to fill a swiming pool with vomit....and I don't even watch Nascrap! I only see it for 2 seconds every single time I switch to speedchannel, then I switch it to another channel really quickly so I don't rot my brain!!!----Nascrap!! Nascrap!!!! always Nascrap!!! Nascrap in the morning, during the day, when I have my dinner at home and even late at night 23 hours a day! Goddamit! I can't stand it anymore!! This Weeken was the only time they showed some GT racing with Corvettes and Vipers.

i dont like nascar at all, I HATE windtunnel, I have yet to see drifting,

Eveytime i turn it on its either old nascar, windtunnel or euro racing, the only think i liked was the first 40seconds of euro racing and something about muscle cars.

I am also not a fan of NASCAR :disappoin however, WRC is fun to watch, and I get a kick out of touring cars (Audi A4, Ford Modeno, etc.)
Anybody remember the Speedvision cop? The one who pulls over the guy in the orange Plymouth for doing 72 mph? Or the one with the 50s something 'vette with duct tape? :icon16: Those were the days.

I am also not a fan of NASCAR :disappoin however, WRC is fun to watch, and I get a kick out of touring cars (Audi A4, Ford Modeno, etc.)
Anybody remember the Speedvision cop? The one who pulls over the guy in the orange Plymouth for doing 72 mph? Or the one with the 50s something 'vette with duct tape? :icon16: Those were the days. lol that commercial was awsome remember the one with the dude iin the geo metro who got pulled over fer doin 50 in a 30 and the guy thought he was goin like 200mph

great NASCAR is popular. :rolleyes:

thats obvious when they take over every automotive related channel on television. it could be 4:17AM and they are playing NASCAR on speed. I don't even visit the channel very much anymore, why show support for that?

Other motorsports coverage is suffering. THE racing thats being passed over is the racing that brings us new technology. NASCAR is old technology. NASCAR also effects what people here buy (speaking for the US). NASCAR lovers.. buy SUV's because its the closest thing handling wise to what they like :dunno: :cwm27: (and theirs more room on a SUV to stick those lovely nascar numbers). If we don't support GT car racing like GTCC, JGTCC, or Rally or LeMans then we will no longer have new Ferrari's and porsche's and BMW's and 4WD EVO's and STI's, we no longer have torque-split and VTEC and ATESSA and every other bit of science that the car companies constantly develop to be the leader on the tracks. The same tracks that no one is watching. Or they watch it in other countries not the US so the US never gets the good cars on our shores. Also, funding gets taken from say new engine technology like I-VTEC and gets put twards the 4WD system on the new 17,000Lb SUV (the super extended XLT super-duty wide-track eddy bouer F-650 tunnel cab). NASCAR does nothing to help the auto industry, actually hurts it, at least in the areas I would want the auto industry to focus on. [/RANT]

I emotionalized some of this but its predominantly true. its just my :2cents:

great NASCAR is popular. :rolleyes:

thats obvious when they take over every automotive related channel on television. it could be 4:17AM and they are playing NASCAR on speed. I don't even visit the channel very much anymore, why show support for that?

Other motorsports coverage is suffering. THE racing thats being passed over is the racing that brings us new technology. NASCAR is old technology. NASCAR also effects what people here buy (speaking for the US). NASCAR lovers.. buy SUV's because its the closest thing handling wise to what they like :dunno: :cwm27: (and theirs more room on a SUV to stick those lovely nascar numbers). If we don't support GT car racing like GTCC, JGTCC, or Rally or LeMans then we will no longer have new Ferrari's and porsche's and BMW's and 4WD EVO's and STI's, we no longer have torque-split and VTEC and ATESSA and every other bit of science that the car companies constantly develop to be the leader on the tracks. The same tracks that no one is watching. Or they watch it in other countries not the US so the US never gets the good cars on our shores. Also, funding gets taken from say new engine technology like I-VTEC and gets put twards the 4WD system on the new 17,000Lb SUV (the super extended XLT super-duty wide-track eddy bouer F-650 tunnel cab). NASCAR does nothing to help the auto industry, actually hurts it, at least in the areas I would want the auto industry to focus on. [/RANT]

I emotionalized some of this but its predominantly true. its just my :2cents: welcome to america jackass

great NASCAR is popular. :rolleyes:

thats obvious when they take over every automotive related channel on television. it could be 4:17AM and they are playing NASCAR on speed. I don't even visit the channel very much anymore, why show support for that?

Other motorsports coverage is suffering. THE racing thats being passed over is the racing that brings us new technology. NASCAR is old technology. NASCAR also effects what people here buy (speaking for the US). NASCAR lovers.. buy SUV's because its the closest thing handling wise to what they like :dunno: :cwm27: (and theirs more room on a SUV to stick those lovely nascar numbers). If we don't support GT car racing like GTCC, JGTCC, or Rally or LeMans then we will no longer have new Ferrari's and porsche's and BMW's and 4WD EVO's and STI's, we no longer have torque-split and VTEC and ATESSA and every other bit of science that the car companies constantly develop to be the leader on the tracks. The same tracks that no one is watching. Or they watch it in other countries not the US so the US never gets the good cars on our shores. Also, funding gets taken from say new engine technology like I-VTEC and gets put twards the 4WD system on the new 17,000Lb SUV (the super extended XLT super-duty wide-track eddy bouer F-650 tunnel cab). NASCAR does nothing to help the auto industry, actually hurts it, at least in the areas I would want the auto industry to focus on. [/RANT]

I emotionalized some of this but its predominantly true. its just my :2cents:
People buy SUV's b/c of Nascar?? How do you figure? I like trucks and suv's but I cannot stand and hate Nascar. No one buy's cars/trucks/suvs b/c its of what they see. The only people who do that are insecure idiots who think they have to own a certain vehicle to feel "cool". I love German/Italian/British cars but b/c of the history and craftsmanship that goes into them, not b/c i see it on tv.

great NASCAR is popular. :rolleyes:

thats obvious when they take over every automotive related channel on television. it could be 4:17AM and they are playing NASCAR on speed. I don't even visit the channel very much anymore, why show support for that?

Other motorsports coverage is suffering. THE racing thats being passed over is the racing that brings us new technology. NASCAR is old technology. NASCAR also effects what people here buy (speaking for the US). NASCAR lovers.. buy SUV's because its the closest thing handling wise to what they like :dunno: :cwm27: (and theirs more room on a SUV to stick those lovely nascar numbers). If we don't support GT car racing like GTCC, JGTCC, or Rally or LeMans then we will no longer have new Ferrari's and porsche's and BMW's and 4WD EVO's and STI's, we no longer have torque-split and VTEC and ATESSA and every other bit of science that the car companies constantly develop to be the leader on the tracks. The same tracks that no one is watching. Or they watch it in other countries not the US so the US never gets the good cars on our shores. Also, funding gets taken from say new engine technology like I-VTEC and gets put twards the 4WD system on the new 17,000Lb SUV (the super extended XLT super-duty wide-track eddy bouer F-650 tunnel cab). NASCAR does nothing to help the auto industry, actually hurts it, at least in the areas I would want the auto industry to focus on. [/RANT]

I emotionalized some of this but its predominantly true. its just my :2cents:

..............You're an idiot......Do you smoke crack to get all these bright ideas or something????

..............You're an idiot......Do you smoke crack to get all these bright ideas or something????:werd: !!!

great NASCAR is popular. :rolleyes:

thats obvious when they take over every automotive related channel on television. it could be 4:17AM and they are playing NASCAR on speed. I don't even visit the channel very much anymore, why show support for that?

Other motorsports coverage is suffering. THE racing thats being passed over is the racing that brings us new technology. NASCAR is old technology. NASCAR also effects what people here buy (speaking for the US). NASCAR lovers.. buy SUV's because its the closest thing handling wise to what they like :dunno: :cwm27: (and theirs more room on a SUV to stick those lovely nascar numbers). If we don't support GT car racing like GTCC, JGTCC, or Rally or LeMans then we will no longer have new Ferrari's and porsche's and BMW's and 4WD EVO's and STI's, we no longer have torque-split and VTEC and ATESSA and every other bit of science that the car companies constantly develop to be the leader on the tracks. The same tracks that no one is watching. Or they watch it in other countries not the US so the US never gets the good cars on our shores. Also, funding gets taken from say new engine technology like I-VTEC and gets put twards the 4WD system on the new 17,000Lb SUV (the super extended XLT super-duty wide-track eddy bouer F-650 tunnel cab). NASCAR does nothing to help the auto industry, actually hurts it, at least in the areas I would want the auto industry to focus on. [/RANT]

I emotionalized some of this but its predominantly true. its just my :2cents:

I don't think you have anything to worry about.

I'll respect Nascar for the vehicles, and I'll respect some of the drivers in the series. a good driver is a good driver. however the only reason that it is so popular in America is because it requires a short attention span. most american viewers no nothing about the cars themselves, the companies that make products that go into the cars or the people who work on them. they watch it cause of the personalities the drama and the sponsorship. face it earnhardt wouldn't be half as popular if his dad hadn't died. and knowone would know anything about gordon if he wasn't flaunted like a nascar playboy by the media. it's insane watching someone jump cause "thier driver" passed someone yet they couldn't tell you the manufacturer of rx-8 is. while if you ask someone who follows irl, rally, drift or other genres the level of automotive comprehension is much higher. this however is a generalization. I realize there are intelligent people who watch nascar. however, I'd say it's viewers have less industry education then any other type of racing out there. which leads to an easier program setup for the channel.

So in short you're saying that the vast majority of speciments that watch NASCAR arepretty much beer-guzzling nitwits.

Is anyone sick of their stupid Nascar stuff? Nascar is about as boring as watching algae grow - (God forgive me) but I'd even rather watch solar powered cars race!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you sir or mad' am are in need of a life,,,,let me guess,,,you like replacing the mothballs in your closet ,eh??people like you is why there are so many lawyers in this country,,,grow up!!!!

oh yea,,,,the most powerful man in the world started the daytona 500,,,,must be something about Nascar for so many ppl to like it,,,,pc nerds and homosexuals are the only likes of people that dont like Nascar

i seen speedvision a minute ago,,,a re run,,,someone called mike waltrip a wimp for complaining of pain after the wreck he was in in the tona 500,,,i wish for whoever said that to get beat repeatedly with a 2 inch piece of tubing,,,see how he likes it

oh yea,,,,the most powerful man in the world started the daytona 500,,,,must be something about Nascar for so many ppl to like it,,,,pc nerds and homosexuals are the only likes of people that dont like Nascar
The most powerful man in the world started the Daytona 500? Who the hell is that? PC Nerds and homosexuals huh? I guess we can classify you as a pc nerd since you had to be on one to take your time to post here. People like us who dispise Nascar is b/c there is no point in driving around in a big oval. Its so popular b/c most Americans are too lazy to follow something like F1 racing. Their minds can't handle the overload of stimulation.

Oh and it's far more difficult to set up a F1 car up than it is to set up a Nascar.

Oh and it's far more difficult to set up a F1 car up than it is to set up a Nascar.

They set up Nascars?


F1 cars are more technologically advanced than nascars. I don't think nascars can pull more than 3 G's and drive upside down on a ceiling going faster than 200 MPH (aerodynamics). An F1 car can do a quarter mile AND A HALF in 9 seconds... in rain. But the technology of the cars is'nt what makes it good for some people, some people don't care that nascars still run on old pushrod engines. And some people don't care that nascar engineers probably cant build an engine that has 12 cylinders, and revs up to 18K RPM.

Altough I respect nascar racing, I think there's no better series better than Cart. Cart is like F1, exept they dont have power steering, paddle shifters, and they run in America (more differences, but those are the 3 I think are worth mentioning).

I'm not gonna bash nascar racing and tell you that F1 is better, it's a matter of opinion. You like oval racing? good for you, watch all you want, make sure you get a good glimse of the advertisements on the cars. Nascar= 4 hour long commercial.

They set up Nascars?
I was saying what you basically said.