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Next Project.....Nissan 350 Z


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primera man
08-11-2003, 08:58 PM
New model underway a few days ago.
Most here have built one so i look forward to hearing your views on the build.
Body was primed a couple of days and will get a final coat of Mica Blue TS-50 in a few days time.
Kit will be build almost stock from the box as i like the style and shape of this car and doesnt need any real mods to improve it IMO.

The underneath is all painted and finished. This is about 4 days work to get it done. Those of you who haven't build this kit wont know the whole underneath comes molded as One frickin piece and needs plenty of time to get it looking just right.
Lots of small brush painting and masking to get it finished.
The only part added in the photo is the muffler.
Finished today after giving it a black wash.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/579794DSCF1988.JPG

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/669241DSCF1996.JPG

Toyotagt1
08-11-2003, 09:01 PM
Great the first blue 350 Z !!!!!!
CAnt wait to see progress! I grab on my seat and wath them!!
http://216.40.249.192/s/cwm/cwm/lurk.gif

supratuner
08-11-2003, 09:03 PM
another great project from P Man, looking good so far, cant wait to see it done.

73superduty
08-11-2003, 09:06 PM
P-Man, Great work on the chassis. I know what you mean by masking and detailing. It gets tedious but, as your results show, the time and effort are well worth it!
Look forward to the blue 350 Z
Chris

SuperStreet reader
08-11-2003, 09:11 PM
look forward to seeing progress P-man!:biggrin:

EMAXX
08-11-2003, 09:22 PM
Dang, you have the bottem painted already?:bigthumb: Your fast, and it looks really nice.

MX100
08-11-2003, 09:25 PM
lookin good~~ can't wait to c the finish product!~ :bigthumb:

tonioseven
08-11-2003, 09:28 PM
Rim choice?!!:icon16:

thizishkenny
08-11-2003, 09:32 PM
oh no!!! I cant wait to see this one done!!! a blue 350z hope to see more progress on this soon

primera man
08-11-2003, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by tonioseven
Rim choice?!!:icon16:

I've been playing around with quite a few....i'll keep you posted http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/bigthumb.gif

EMAXX
08-11-2003, 09:34 PM
What are you doing posting here? You should be off building your model.:tongue:

hobbes874
08-11-2003, 09:47 PM
All one piece!!:banghead: That's a pain in the a$$ :(. Anyway, Nice work P-man :bigthumb: primer is looking very good!

EMAXX
08-11-2003, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by hobbes874
All one piece!!:banghead: That's a pain in the a$$ :(. Anyway, Nice work P-man :bigthumb: primer is looking very good!


The cars I've been building have all been like that. Why, were they like a bunch of different pieces before?

Camber
08-11-2003, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by EMAXX



The cars I've been building have all been like that. Why, were they like a bunch of different pieces before?

Some come with seperate bumpers/sideskirts, which makes it 100x easier to do a SAS Transkit...

mmmmmm, i love the new blue the 350z comes in. Model 5s would look awesome on a mica blue 350z, I was going to do it once. Cant wait!

EMAXX
08-11-2003, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Camber


Some come with seperate bumpers/sideskirts, which makes it 100x easier to do a SAS Transkit...

mmmmmm, i love the new blue the 350z comes in. Model 5s would look awesome on a mica blue 350z, I was going to do it once. Cant wait!


I didn't know that. I'm going to have to look for that. The one I built was a pain because it was all one piece.

.porkchop.
08-11-2003, 10:45 PM
Woo great build!! I love Mica Blue...would look great with mine!!

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/856922complete8.jpg

Hiroboy
08-12-2003, 01:38 AM
At last, I have been waiting for you to do this kit for ages now.
The blue should look awesome, it was on my list of colour choices.
You know it's crying out for 19 inch rims.
Don't forget to post the finished item in the 350Z meet thread
The underside is looking very nice indeed, I must admit, I cant be arsed with all that masking on the 350z kits so all mine are undersealed in black.

Lastly, do you want my mailing address to send me the finished model :biggrin:

http://www.spc.org.uk/nissan/i/350z/silverstone-350z-06.jpg

IwannaDRift
08-12-2003, 05:40 AM
Man.. I like the paint already.. oh wait, thats primer.. I know the paint will be like friken glass!!!! keep it up

primera man
08-12-2003, 06:42 AM
Originally posted by Hiroboy


Lastly, do you want my mailing address to send me the finished model :biggrin:


http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/lol.gif Thanks Steve !!

The kit has been started thanks to you posting all yours and getting me keen to build one !!

PS...Im getting short on 19's so maybe you could send me some over !!
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chrismcgee
08-12-2003, 07:01 AM
looking good steve, any scratch build gonna be going on?

Hiroboy
08-12-2003, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by chrismcgee
Any scratch build gonna be going on?
As he said "Kit will be build almost stock from the box as i like the style and shape of this car and doesnt need any real mods to improve it IMO"
BUt as you are still ill I'll let you off this time:wink:

EMAXX
08-12-2003, 09:59 AM
Dang, you guys really make me want to build a 350Z. I probably won't be able to get one untill like January or so though.:frown:

r34boy
08-12-2003, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by EMAXX
Dang, you guys really make me want to build a 350Z. I probably won't be able to get one untill like January or so though.:frown: build faster ;) ;):bigthumb:

EMAXX
08-12-2003, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by r34boy
build faster ;) ;):bigthumb:


No, My parents don't let me get one whenever I want. I can only get one like 4-5 months.:frown:

hondaaccordboy21
08-12-2003, 02:21 PM
I have a z. the paint is crud though. I have fingerprints on the hood.AHH made me really mad. N e one know how to get fingerprints out.

hobbes874
08-12-2003, 02:28 PM
You can try to paint over it in that spot :dunno:

EMAXX
08-12-2003, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by hondaaccordboy21
I have a z. the paint is crud though. I have fingerprints on the hood.AHH made me really mad. N e one know how to get fingerprints out.


I have that problem quite a bit. It makes me so mad. I just strip the paint and leave it then go back like a week later when I'm not so pissed at it and paint it again with the airbrush.
I always get fingerprints because mine always falls for some reason. Then I pick it up and forget about the paint, so...:mad:
Sorry, hope that helps. I really haven't found any other way to make it look nice.

Midnight Racer
08-12-2003, 04:20 PM
Can't wait to see how this 350Z turns out.:bigthumb:

hondaaccordboy21
08-12-2003, 04:34 PM
Thanks EMAXX ill try that.

EMAXX
08-12-2003, 04:39 PM
Welcome, and don't try to paint over it, it leves lumps and stuff and it turns out worse.

Vric
08-12-2003, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by Hiroboy

http://www.spc.org.uk/nissan/i/350z/silverstone-350z-06.jpg

ah a dream vision

T\/\/iN-Tu|2Bo
08-12-2003, 05:08 PM
Another model already........I'm still workin on my Porsche:rolleyes: This Z is gonna be amazing. I'd just like to say "great paintjob" in advance:grinyes: We all know how mirror smooth your car bodies come out.

primera man
08-13-2003, 06:41 AM
Well here she is all painted.
5 coats of Mica Blue today.
Well be left for a week to harden before a polish and wax.

christofurr
08-13-2003, 06:48 AM
Originally posted by primera man
Well her she is all painted.
5 coats of Mica Blue today.
Well be left for a week to harden before a polish and wax.

I'd hate to see what would happen if you got your hands on an airbrush :tongue:

How many years did you work at a panel beaters for? There must be some explination for paint jobs like that :smile:

chrismcgee
08-13-2003, 08:01 AM
wow, im gonna getmy swimming shorts on coz im gonna go have a swim in that deliciously sexy deep blue sea paint, mmmmmmmmm.

top job there dude

z33guy
08-13-2003, 10:05 AM
nice lookin Z33:bigthumb:

EMAXX
08-13-2003, 10:08 AM
Dang, that doesn't even need to be polished. Its already soooooo shiny.:eek:

sti wrx
08-13-2003, 11:20 AM
Such a nice shine great job

MrHappy
08-13-2003, 11:51 AM
Congratulations on what looks like another flawless paint job. :bigthumb:
You truly are the master of shine!! :worshippy
Cant wait to see it finished!!

Focus2000
08-13-2003, 11:53 AM
It never ceases to amaze me how you get such a fantastic mirror finish straight from the can.

malsheem
08-13-2003, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by Focus2000
It never ceases to amaze me how you get such a fantastic mirror finish straight from the can.

I agree. Your paint jobs are always fantastic. Quick question, approx. how much of the Tamiya paint can do you use when putting down 5 coats? Whole can? Half can? This would help me gauge how much to put down on my cars in the attempt to replicate a P-man caliber paint job.

thizishkenny
08-13-2003, 01:18 PM
nice paint job!!!

Hiroboy
08-13-2003, 01:43 PM
http://www.bavf.org/images/stock/john_fales.jpg
Damn that shine, where's my dark glasses.........That's better

mike united
08-13-2003, 02:09 PM
P-man is using at least two cans on each car. Iv'e started buying two cans for each car myself now as one is just not not enough, especially if your doing the undercarriage the same color.

Later, Mike.

malsheem
08-13-2003, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by mike united
P-man is using at least two cans on each car. Iv'e started buying two cans for each car myself now as one is just not not enough, especially if your doing the undercarriage the same color.

Later, Mike.

Two cans is a lot of paint. I normally use up one whole can for car plus undercarriage. I guess my last few "wet" layers should be a little wetter. That would probably help bring out that mirror like shine that I'm searching for. Well, off to the hobby shop to buy more paint. Thanks for the tip.

Midnight Racer
08-13-2003, 03:19 PM
Stunning paint as usual.:bigthumb: :bigthumb:

Camber
08-13-2003, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by mike united
P-man is using at least two cans on each car. Iv'e started buying two cans for each car myself now as one is just not not enough, especially if your doing the undercarriage the same color.

Later, Mike.

2 cans a car? Correct me if im wrong but I remember him saying he can paint 3 cars a can.

mike united
08-13-2003, 03:46 PM
Hmmmmmmmm.......cant fathom out how you can get a thorough deep paint job with just one can, from my own personal experience up to now i can only get two, three pushing it decent layers out of one can. On the other hand though, one can is enough if your just painting to cover and then clear coating.

Later, Mike.

:cool:

primera man
08-13-2003, 07:11 PM
Most times i will get about 3 cars painted to one can of Tamiya spray.

The 350Z was started with a brand new can and i'd have at least half of the can left. This was for the 5 coats on the body, about 3-4 coats on the chassis and the rear wing/mirrors all painted.
Remember the first two coats are VERY VERY LIGHT MIST COATS which use very little paint, then followed by the heavy ones

pettercardoso
08-13-2003, 08:27 PM
3 cars: 1 Tamiya can ?!! :confused: that's a great ratio! :D
How much time do you wait between coats? Could you explain how you spay your wet coats? I'm kinda slow..haven't quite understood the "wet coat" concept :D

thizishkenny
08-13-2003, 08:31 PM
so when u paint your first 2 coats how light is it? and when u paint the heavy coat how heavy? Because mine could never get like that for some reason. Could you show us pictures of how the coats look like?

ZoomZoomMX-5
08-13-2003, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by primera man
Most times i will get about 3 cars painted to one can of Tamiya spray.



Sounds about right. I paint about 2 cars and have some paint left over using a single Tamiya paint can. Three models would be stretching it, and I would make sure I've got another can ready. I go through flat and semigloss black more often, more parts to paint.:cool:

EMAXX
08-13-2003, 08:58 PM
Dang P-man, enlighten us. We know that you made a FAQ and everything, but still, its just so amazing.:eek: :bigthumb:

GTI1800
08-13-2003, 09:34 PM
Hi PRIMERA MAN,
always a pleasure to see your paint job....
You were right for the can....... very light mist coat...is the best way...
Nice again.....
Laurent

primera man
08-13-2003, 10:10 PM
It all in here ....read carefully !!
I guess it takes practice to get right.

3-4 Coats of finish coat about 5-10 minutes apart...thats it...nice a simple.(keep the can warm)
The first coat is a very light mist coat...the paint should only just be landing on the car. Spray at a distance of 8-10 inches moving quite quickly with the can as you spray. YOU SHOULD STILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE PRIMER AMOST AFTER THIS COAT
Do the same for the second coat.
The third coat you can spray a bit more heavy so it covers the model. This is done by slowing the speed that you move the spray can as you paint.
The last coat is the one you want to get perfect. Spray at a new distance of 4-6 inches. You should be trying to get a mirror like smoothness to the final coat. If you are to far away it will not get enough paint and you can get a orange peel look. Too close and the paint will go on to thick and will run and may cause bubbles to appear.
You may need to repeat the last step to get a better finish and coverage.
Dont rush...take your time. If the paint is not covering to well in the first couple of light coats DONT try and add more paint straight away as this will cause runs in the paint. Allow it to dry and then add a couple of extra light coats to help cover.

circuitR
08-14-2003, 01:57 AM
One day, just one day I will get good paint jobs.
P-man, you the spray can man!
Love your work.
:biggrin:

mike united
08-14-2003, 03:25 AM
Well F..k me.....i never !!!
Half a can left after spraying a car, im sitting here shaking my head in disbeleif beacause im just totally gobsmacked. This makes me want to jack it all in..........but im obviously not going to.
Well.........back to the drawing board, gonna do as P-man has written here and see how it goes, gonna start first by trying to get a car finished with no more than one can.
By the way Warren, i hate you !?!..........Your so good at painting........

Later, Mike.

Bangai-o
08-14-2003, 05:09 AM
Do you clear coat then P-Man? If I do that many coat I walways sand through to the primer trying to get a perfectly smooth finish :(

primera man
08-14-2003, 05:47 AM
Originally posted by Bangai-o
Do you clear coat then P-Man? If I do that many coat I walways sand through to the primer trying to get a perfectly smooth finish :(

No...i never clear coat my models

Dublinguy
08-14-2003, 06:24 AM
Pman,

Great job always, I wouldnt expect anything less. But I am really confused here and could you answer a couple of questions.

1. I was under the impression that with Mica and Metallic colours you shouldnt polish the base colour because the metal flakes will leave swirl marks and scrapes in the paint. But you said you are going to polish and wax in a few days?

2. When you are doing a race car do you polish, decal and then wax? And are you just using the wax to protect the decals?

Also could you do us all a huge favour on your next model would you take a pic of each stage of the base colour so we can all see exactly how much is going onto the model at each stage.

Thank you.

Ciaran

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