RSX vs. Evo/WRX

I have a base 2003 RSX and am planning to turbocharger her with a NX-intercooler nitrous injection. What is the best way to join the 300hp race against the EVo and the WRX???:comprage1

The only way to gain the 140 or so horse power you want is to beef up the internals (valves, pistons, and prolly a lot more), then you could safely run a high boost.

the evo and the wrx are both all wheel drive and your car is only front wheel drive so its gonna take more hp than them just to compete because they'll kick your ass off the line. do what that other guy says about beefing up the internals and then get a bigger intercooler and turbo than the wrx and evo and run more boost. you'll need a nice flowing exhaust too because the more a turbo can breathe then the better hp you'll get. just my ideas though

With a turbo kit you should easily run with a stock STI or EVO if you know how to drive, but the fact that they can buy a boost controller and full exhaust and add another bundle of power is what makes it hard to hang with factory turbo cars.

how much you think the EVO can handle, already 19 lbs stock.

Originally posted by 94tegRS
how much you think the EVO can handle, already 19 lbs stock.


well visnu managed to make one a sec faster than stock without touching the boost....

only mods....leaner mixture, lighter wheels, sway bar in back, bigger exaust.....


evo's potetial for upgrades is insane.....


btw this vishnu "stage zero" was able to spank a 911 carrera 4s in the twisties

evo's 4g63 can take 22psi on stock internals..

1 bad ass car..

i personally think a turbo rsx cant stand up with a evo\wrx.. they will stomp all over it.. awd turbo.. very fast. and if the evo\wrx gets intake n exhaust they can easily see 350+hp..

you have lots to do to make a turbo rsx run with a evo\wrx..

good luck

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Any of you guys ever hear of "lil evo" ? Theres a guy around here that took a front wheel drive mirage and turned it into a turbo beast. check out this site: http://mirageturbo.org/
theres proof here that a front wheel drive car can beat an all wheel drive turbo car and many others

no doubt that a fwd can run awd cars.. but itz lots of work..

and the amount of $ you put in a fwd car to make it quic the awd might be faster. lets look at the neon str-4 turbo fwd and the evo 8 turbo awd.. pretty good match up right.. now mod both of those cars and see whick car will win..

evo..

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Since you have a base RSX...I'd have to say it's not worth the money that you'd have to put into the car to compete with an evo or WRX sti.... Now if you had an RSX type S and add a turbo to it and reinforce the internals and an intercooler and freeflowing exhaust!!! DAM!!! Say goodbye to the EVO and WRX sti!!!! But since you have the base model it's up to you...You'd have to put a lot of money into it to run 13's...if you want to spend that then thats up to you.

Since you have a base RSX...I'd have to say it's not worth the money that you'd have to put into the car to compete with an evo or WRX sti.... Now if you had an RSX type S and add a turbo to it and reinforce the internals and an intercooler and freeflowing exhaust!!! DAM!!! Say goodbye to the EVO and WRX sti!!!! But since you have the base model it's up to you...You'd have to put a lot of money into it to run 13's...if you want to spend that then thats up to you.

Money isnt the issue, lets just take what we have....im getting stronger rods and pistons in addition to my turbocharger, im not sure if i should get the stage I or II, however, i'm leaning towards the stage II. Now you're saying that a Stage II turbo kickin 150-200 at the wheel in addition to what it has now ( i'll let you know what i dyno prior to the turbo) will not beat the evo and/or the wrx???????
Anyway, i'm only tryin to make the lower 12's, but with a stage II, i think i can dip into the 11's and 10's, i'll let you know.LET ME KNOW WHAT U THINK...YOU AND THE WORLD :mad: :disappoin

OK....Lets go to school.

How fast you go in the quarter mile is a function of the weight of your car and the WHEEL horsepower it makes. I can't remember the formula now , but it's something like weight over whp cube rooted multiplied be some decimal number.....Now.....a base RSX has a curb weight of about 25oo lbs....now add a 200 lb drive and a full tank...about 250 more pounds...2750lbs....in order to run low 12's you will need to have 240 wheel horsepoer(whp). in order to run low 11's you will need about 300 whp...and for 10's you will need somewhere around 400 whp....that's going to take HELLA tuning and SERIOUS reinforcement..not to mention it most likely wont pass emission and will not be street legal...if your state has emissions tests be VERY careful what you do. Because they will make you take it off!! But if your state doesn't have emissions then TURBO AWAY!! So your car has about 140 or so horsepower to the wheels...enough to run low 15's..which is not bad. if you want to run low 12's you'd have to add about 100 more whp. You'd have to add about 160 more whp to run low 11's.....and lets not even talk about 10's. Actually I think that the base RSX will produce more torque at a lower rpm than the Type S...So you will get a stronger pull....but since the horsepower isn't as high as the Type S it won't pull as long as the Type S. For example..the acura GSR and type R....they both have the same torque..one has 170 hp and 195 hp. The Type R will not feel faster but it will pull longer than the GSR.....That's why integras drag racing other cars ussually get burned off the line but later on catch up by the end of the quarter mile. Other cars may have more torque but heaviness and horsepower will start to make the car not pull as hard as it did when it first started...while the integra pulls harder the higher the RPM's.

OK....Lets go to school.

How fast you go in the quarter mile is a function of the weight of your car and the WHEEL horsepower it makes. I can't remember the formula now , but it's something like weight over whp cube rooted multiplied be some decimal number.....Now.....a base RSX has a curb weight of about 25oo lbs....now add a 200 lb drive and a full tank...about 250 more pounds...2750lbs....in order to run low 12's you will need to have 240 wheel horsepoer(whp). in order to run low 11's you will need about 300 whp...and for 10's you will need somewhere around 400 whp....that's going to take HELLA tuning and SERIOUS reinforcement..not to mention it most likely wont pass emission and will not be street legal...if your state has emissions tests be VERY careful what you do. Because they will make you take it off!! But if your state doesn't have emissions then TURBO AWAY!! So your car has about 140 or so horsepower to the wheels...enough to run low 15's..which is not bad. if you want to run low 12's you'd have to add about 100 more whp. You'd have to add about 160 more whp to run low 11's.....and lets not even talk about 10's. Actually I think that the base RSX will produce more torque at a lower rpm than the Type S...So you will get a stronger pull....but since the horsepower isn't as high as the Type S it won't pull as long as the Type S. For example..the acura GSR and type R....they both have the same torque..one has 170 hp and 195 hp. The Type R will not feel faster but it will pull longer than the GSR.....That's why integras drag racing other cars ussually get burned off the line but later on catch up by the end of the quarter mile. Other cars may have more torque but heaviness and horsepower will start to make the car not pull as hard as it did when it first started...while the integra pulls harder the higher the RPM's.

Okay, thats great info to have, and ur totally correct. I am going for the lower 12's...10's are impossible with this car and what i puttin into it. I learned that a base RSX beat a WRX consistantly. NOW HERE THIS, and it sounds off, but i witnessed it: a base RSX running 11psi beat a WRX 4 out of 5 times, the WRX running 20psi. The only time the RSX lost was only by half a car door. Now with that's potential. The man tuned his car to the T. I have 3 personal mechanics and plan to do the same. Peace!!!! :sunglasse

Good....NOW have fun smoking everyone....especially corvettes, camaros, and mustangs!!! Represent to the fullest!!

Good....NOW have fun smoking everyone....especially corvettes, camaros, and mustangs!!! Represent to the fullest!!


OKAY, since u wanna be sacastic and shit, i was only making a statement on what i witnessed. Anyway, i will have my fun....and i'm not stupid and gonna waste my time takin on corvettes, camaros, and mustangs....just other honda/acura, evo's, wrx's, and some camaros!!!!


I WILL REPRESENT TO THE FULLEST CHUUCH1!!!!

Hey man I wasn't being sarcastic. I wish I had the extra money to do what you are going to do. I was being real man. Do't be so sensitive like a female. It was a compliment.......geezzz...

Hey man I wasn't being sarcastic. I wish I had the extra money to do what you are going to do. I was being real man. Do't be so sensitive like a female. It was a compliment.......geezzz...

NOW HERE THIS, and it sounds off, but i witnessed it: a base RSX running 11psi beat a WRX 4 out of 5 times, the WRX running 20psi. The only time the RSX lost was only by half a car door. Now with that's potential. The man tuned his car to the T. I have 3 personal mechanics and plan to do the same. Peace!!!! :sunglasse

1) Bullshit.
2) A base RSX would be better for turbo since it has lower stock compression, allowing you to run higher boost.
3) Bullshit.
4) I think that 12s on the street for an RSX is kind of a stretch, let alone 11s or 10s.

There was an article I read in a magazine (Road & Track??) where they suped up some cars and took them to the strip. The RSX had a *claimed* 320fwhp and that's N/A. If I remember right, it did like a 13.1 on street tires.

5) Bullshit. A WRX pumping 20psi probably has at least 400whp. A turbo RSX probably puts out around 300 at the crank at 11psi. Either that's not true or the driver in the WRX kept missing shifts...like in every race.

1) Bullshit.
2) A base RSX would be better for turbo since it has lower stock compression, allowing you to run higher boost.
3) Bullshit.
4) I think that 12s on the street for an RSX is kind of a stretch, let alone 11s or 10s.

There was an article I read in a magazine (Road & Track??) where they suped up some cars and took them to the strip. The RSX had a *claimed* 320fwhp and that's N/A. If I remember right, it did like a 13.1 on street tires.

5) Bullshit. A WRX pumping 20psi probably has at least 400whp. A turbo RSX probably puts out around 300 at the crank at 11psi. Either that's not true or the driver in the WRX kept missing shifts...like in every race.

My man, like i said, it sounds off but i witnessed it on the track. The driver of the WRX must have been a weak driver, and its not bullshit for the RSX to run 12's. The shop where i'm gettin my turbo consistantly run's mid 12's, 12.7 was there fastest on 12psi with 313whp, so upgrade ur knowledge. On the street, i wouldnt run 12psi anyway, its not worth the risk with some street punks. Oh yeah, and with a stage II, most likely stage III and higher, the RSX can hit 10's. Again, get ur knowledge upgraded. I'm not puttin you down, i'm just letting you know. Peace.

Hey man I wasn't being sarcastic. I wish I had the extra money to do what you are going to do. I was being real man. Do't be so sensitive like a female. It was a compliment.......geezzz...

Ha,Ha,Ha....sorry man, it just sounded like you were. Besides, corvettes and mustanges are stock monsters pushing very high 300's hp, im not gonna be that high with a stage I turbo. The most i can get out will be around 260whp, and with N20 OR CO2 maybe i'll get to 300whp. Peace.

a stock Sti with no cats is capable of running high 12's with the right driver.....not to many RSX's out there that will even come close

hey what brand are u going for in turbo kits? imo if im gonna go turbo and waste 2-3 g's i might as well pay the little extra money for stage 2.right now im still undecided if i should get the rev hard stage 2 after my body kit and paint job. going back to the wrx, i don't think they're that special, just a 2.5l engine with a turbo.what if honda made a 2.5l engine with turbo, it would be a dramatic increase in hp compared to the wrx i bet. but of course thats my opinion, since honda doesn't believe going the turbo route.o and one more thing, sageprime what u said u witnessed i think is possibe. i was doing doing research and found that the rev hard turbo stage 2 at 7psi can produce 120hp. at 12psi which is the highest and safest for stock internals, the horse power would increase to 205 give and take. add that up to with the stock hp, which is 140 from my teg that would be an estimated 345 horses. that should be plenty to compete with/if not atleast beat the wrx.here u guys can check it out at thier website http://www.revhard.com/turbokits.html.
the only draw back is i live in cali and this isn't carb certified, thats the main reason why i don't want to purchase it, but i have to see what happens, so good luck

Ha,Ha,Ha....sorry man, it just sounded like you were. Besides, corvettes and mustanges are stock monsters pushing very high 300's hp, im not gonna be that high with a stage I turbo. The most i can get out will be around 260whp, and with N20 OR CO2 maybe i'll get to 300whp. Peace.

It's not all about HP numbers kid. It's about power/weight ratio's and torque/weight ratios. A stock 98+ Camaro SS will run high 13's stock. if you plan on low 12's for your car, you can beat him. Don't even get me started on mustangs.. the most over-rated car out there. 5.0's especially. They were high 14's-low 15's second cars. the only mustang that pushes high 300hp is the new SVT (if im not mistaken. i know it there is one pushing 390 that is SC'ed. it runs low 13's-high 12's i believe. correct me if im wrong im not a big mustang fan at all.) but other than that you shouldn't have to worry about stock or lightly modded mustangs of any other year (unless it's an SVT or a roush or some bs.. lol.) Vette's on the otherhand (especially Z06's) could be a problem. They run low 12's right? Just my $.02

I agree with what MDiGiamm said about mustangs being overrated. the base model mustangs are slow and not to mention gay, they dont even make a 5.0 anymore and thats not all that fast. they weigh a lot too. anyways...I was reading an article in an old sport compact car from may and they were testing an evo 8 before it was even released, but anyways...a guy ran against against a 99 corvette who was running in the 13.9's a few times and the evo beat the corvette. the guy was doing 60 foot times at 1.9 consistantly. so my point is...good luck competing with the evo and wrx. its gonna take a lot of money and work to run a rsx and planning on beating an evo or wrx.

It's not all about HP numbers kid. It's about power/weight ratio's and torque/weight ratios. A stock 98+ Camaro SS will run high 13's stock. if you plan on low 12's for your car, you can beat him. Don't even get me started on mustangs.. the most over-rated car out there. 5.0's especially. They were high 14's-low 15's second cars. the only mustang that pushes high 300hp is the new SVT (if im not mistaken. i know it there is one pushing 390 that is SC'ed. it runs low 13's-high 12's i believe. correct me if im wrong im not a big mustang fan at all.) but other than that you shouldn't have to worry about stock or lightly modded mustangs of any other year (unless it's an SVT or a roush or some bs.. lol.) Vette's on the otherhand (especially Z06's) could be a problem. They run low 12's right? Just my $.02

i really didn't want to add in the torque cause i was doing all that writing in the first place, and any ways if people want to see the torque spec with the turbo its already in the site, so why bother writing it down.but just to make u happy it makes 285 lbs of torque at 7 psi. at 12 psi it should be at a whopping 480 lbs, including my engine torque which is 126 this would be around 600lbs! these are unbelievable numbers so im going to have to do some upgrades with the brakes thats for sure, and the only way to find out these numbers are real is of course to get the turbo and test it out myself.