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General _Motors
11-27-2001, 07:10 PM
i would buy one i like the looks of it and power it has would you ?
Euro19
01-12-2002, 12:04 AM
I wouldn´t because General Motors is recalling 78,004 GMC Envoy and Chevrolet Trailblazer models built between January and August, 2001 to recalibrate the transfer case control module. On models equipped with 4-wheel drive, the calibration of the transfer case control module could cause insufficient high-speed gear engagement. If the gear is not engaged, the vehicle can roll when the transmission is in "Park. So as you can see problems are starting to appear. Looks are good though.
Thunda Downunda
03-08-2002, 12:19 PM
.. But that's the case with almost every new design, from every manufacturer.
Not so long ago here Toyota had to recall diesel Landcruisers due to broken crankshafts - hardly a minor problem ..
TrailBlazer is certainly a competitive design in both looks and performance - there's talk of them being offered locally - but it's a pity, in a market segment that depends so much on image, or should I say perceived image that they haven't beefed that image up with some true off-road capability.
Can you get it with diff-locks?
Why isn't it offered with a factory twin-battery option?
Where is the long-range tank(s)?
Here, the lack of the above automatically dooms most 4WD's to being an illusion, and once the reality sets in, so eventually does public perception, and interest ..
Here, only Landcruiser, the tough Nissan Patrol (over 40 US gallon capacity) and Land Rover Defender offer these features. Even Jeep doesn't bother, so like verything else, is virtually relegated to soccer mom duty.
Imagine for a minute one local road tester's horror when he took a new Mercedes-Benz 'ML' 4WD up the tough and very remote Canning Stock Route ... only to get the inevitable flat tyre and belatedly discover that this whiz-bang unit comes equipped with a SPACESAVER spare! What a joke!
anyway, that's my rave on this subject :)
Not so long ago here Toyota had to recall diesel Landcruisers due to broken crankshafts - hardly a minor problem ..
TrailBlazer is certainly a competitive design in both looks and performance - there's talk of them being offered locally - but it's a pity, in a market segment that depends so much on image, or should I say perceived image that they haven't beefed that image up with some true off-road capability.
Can you get it with diff-locks?
Why isn't it offered with a factory twin-battery option?
Where is the long-range tank(s)?
Here, the lack of the above automatically dooms most 4WD's to being an illusion, and once the reality sets in, so eventually does public perception, and interest ..
Here, only Landcruiser, the tough Nissan Patrol (over 40 US gallon capacity) and Land Rover Defender offer these features. Even Jeep doesn't bother, so like verything else, is virtually relegated to soccer mom duty.
Imagine for a minute one local road tester's horror when he took a new Mercedes-Benz 'ML' 4WD up the tough and very remote Canning Stock Route ... only to get the inevitable flat tyre and belatedly discover that this whiz-bang unit comes equipped with a SPACESAVER spare! What a joke!
anyway, that's my rave on this subject :)
pdqgp
03-13-2002, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by Thunda Downunda
....should I say perceived image that they haven't beefed that image up with some true off-road capability.
Can you get it with diff-locks?
Why isn't it offered with a factory twin-battery option?
Where is the long-range tank(s)?
........Here, only Landcruiser, the tough Nissan Patrol (over 40 US gallon capacity) and Land Rover Defender offer these features. Even Jeep doesn't bother, so like verything else, is virtually relegated to soccer mom duty.....Imagine for a minute one local road tester's horror when he took a new Mercedes-Benz 'ML' 4WD up the tough and very remote Canning Stock Route ... only to get the inevitable flat tyre and belatedly discover that this whiz-bang unit comes equipped with a SPACESAVER spare! What a joke!
The TB is very capable of off road use. Only downside is lift kits aren't possible.
Yes, they do have Diff Locks. I have it on mine. Many you see probably don't as they aren't of any benefit in the 98% of the populations daily travels on-road or in worst case....snow. In fact, Lockers can be dangerous if driven by an inexperience driver who is not skilled at 4wd...especially in winter. That's why so many end up upside down in roll overs.
The twin battery....very, very minimal demand. Not good business sense if the demand is low. Not needed for most folks. I'll agree with you on the tanks though. 18.7gals is a bit small.
Don't crack on the MB ML's though. They, like Jeeps do very, very well offroad. Those that do go off road will never use the dummy spare anyway, so that's not an issue. Doubt the ML's ability....then come run the rubicon with me. My TB did Awesome and my buddy's ML did great too. Check out http://4x4abc.com/ML320/ for his site.
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....should I say perceived image that they haven't beefed that image up with some true off-road capability.
Can you get it with diff-locks?
Why isn't it offered with a factory twin-battery option?
Where is the long-range tank(s)?
........Here, only Landcruiser, the tough Nissan Patrol (over 40 US gallon capacity) and Land Rover Defender offer these features. Even Jeep doesn't bother, so like verything else, is virtually relegated to soccer mom duty.....Imagine for a minute one local road tester's horror when he took a new Mercedes-Benz 'ML' 4WD up the tough and very remote Canning Stock Route ... only to get the inevitable flat tyre and belatedly discover that this whiz-bang unit comes equipped with a SPACESAVER spare! What a joke!
The TB is very capable of off road use. Only downside is lift kits aren't possible.
Yes, they do have Diff Locks. I have it on mine. Many you see probably don't as they aren't of any benefit in the 98% of the populations daily travels on-road or in worst case....snow. In fact, Lockers can be dangerous if driven by an inexperience driver who is not skilled at 4wd...especially in winter. That's why so many end up upside down in roll overs.
The twin battery....very, very minimal demand. Not good business sense if the demand is low. Not needed for most folks. I'll agree with you on the tanks though. 18.7gals is a bit small.
Don't crack on the MB ML's though. They, like Jeeps do very, very well offroad. Those that do go off road will never use the dummy spare anyway, so that's not an issue. Doubt the ML's ability....then come run the rubicon with me. My TB did Awesome and my buddy's ML did great too. Check out http://4x4abc.com/ML320/ for his site.
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mjdart
08-01-2002, 01:45 PM
Picked one up this week for my wife, she liked the looks and color. I liked the mechanical stuff underneath.
Let me tell you this vehicle rides and handles most excellently! Every time we drive it we rave about this area. The Vortec engine is also worth raving about, 270 horses riding on hydraulic engine mounts. Smooth, linear power, this engine pulls like a large electric motor. You don’t feel the torque associated with a V design. Its all constructed using lost foam casing and it’s a mechanical beauty. It holds seven quarts of oil and the filter is straight up so you won’t make a mess if you change it yourself. The transmission is the same automatic used in the Corvette and other large GM trucks so it should be bulletproof in the Trailblazer. The brakes are excellent four-wheel discs with dual piston calipers up front. To me they look like Harley Davidson pistons would fit in their bores. They work to haul this fairly large heavy truck from 60 to 0 in 131 feet, that sports car territory. GM uses an new hydro forming process to make the chassis. This means they use water under very high pressure to make the intricate bends and shapes. It’s very precise and allows strength and rigidity to be built in. The tires are very meaty BF Goodrich models with a 400 treadwear rating. I found replacements at Tirerack.com for $67, this will help reduce overall maintenance costs considerably. The spare is full sized with an aluminum wheel which matches the other four.
The interior is very luxurious and spacious. It will seat five adults with plenty of room. The seats are comfortable and feature plenty of adjustments even though they are manual ones. My only complaint with the seat is that since the Trailblazer likes to be thrown in to corners it almost needs sports car seats.
I spent five dollars last night for a can of Scotch Guard which was used to treat the seats and carpeting. The carpeted areas are several shades darker which should help hide spills and messes quite nicely.
The AC/Heating system features dual zone controls with a controllable system for back seat passengers. The stereo is plenty powerful AM/FM & CD player with lots of easy adjustments. A cassette player adds more audio versatility for $124 for those want it. The optional tinting on the rear windows is very nice and helps keep the interior cool in the hot sun. Both the front windows feature express power down and the rears also retract fully into the doors. The rear seats are kind of a split design, which fold forward with minimal effort.
Let me tell you this vehicle rides and handles most excellently! Every time we drive it we rave about this area. The Vortec engine is also worth raving about, 270 horses riding on hydraulic engine mounts. Smooth, linear power, this engine pulls like a large electric motor. You don’t feel the torque associated with a V design. Its all constructed using lost foam casing and it’s a mechanical beauty. It holds seven quarts of oil and the filter is straight up so you won’t make a mess if you change it yourself. The transmission is the same automatic used in the Corvette and other large GM trucks so it should be bulletproof in the Trailblazer. The brakes are excellent four-wheel discs with dual piston calipers up front. To me they look like Harley Davidson pistons would fit in their bores. They work to haul this fairly large heavy truck from 60 to 0 in 131 feet, that sports car territory. GM uses an new hydro forming process to make the chassis. This means they use water under very high pressure to make the intricate bends and shapes. It’s very precise and allows strength and rigidity to be built in. The tires are very meaty BF Goodrich models with a 400 treadwear rating. I found replacements at Tirerack.com for $67, this will help reduce overall maintenance costs considerably. The spare is full sized with an aluminum wheel which matches the other four.
The interior is very luxurious and spacious. It will seat five adults with plenty of room. The seats are comfortable and feature plenty of adjustments even though they are manual ones. My only complaint with the seat is that since the Trailblazer likes to be thrown in to corners it almost needs sports car seats.
I spent five dollars last night for a can of Scotch Guard which was used to treat the seats and carpeting. The carpeted areas are several shades darker which should help hide spills and messes quite nicely.
The AC/Heating system features dual zone controls with a controllable system for back seat passengers. The stereo is plenty powerful AM/FM & CD player with lots of easy adjustments. A cassette player adds more audio versatility for $124 for those want it. The optional tinting on the rear windows is very nice and helps keep the interior cool in the hot sun. Both the front windows feature express power down and the rears also retract fully into the doors. The rear seats are kind of a split design, which fold forward with minimal effort.
expopo
12-18-2002, 12:44 AM
I got a 2002 Trailblazer LTZ, Yes it has it all from DVD to heated leather seats. The one bad thing is I only get about 16-17 MPG. Im looking for ways to get better MPG.
mjdart
12-18-2002, 04:09 PM
I've heard the milage improves quite abit after 5,000 miles. I've got 4500 and I see the numbers coming up.
expopo
12-18-2002, 10:02 PM
Thanks but I got over 12,000 Now. so I order a tornado in hopes that my MPG will get better.
mjdart
12-18-2002, 10:11 PM
about the Tornado device. The engine is really quite powerful and it doesn't seem to be really worked during normal driving so I wonder what drives the milage down.
bowtiebandit
01-12-2003, 08:37 AM
Yes I will buy one soon. I am waiting for the v8 version to see how this new engine will hold up before I decide on the one I want.
mjdart
01-12-2003, 03:48 PM
Available with extended versions. The new Buick version will have V8 standard.
bowtiebandit
01-12-2003, 04:59 PM
Yes, I know that but not to keen on design of engine. They didnt get the inline 6 right, Lord knows I've replaced plenty, so I will wait awhile on the 8.
SuPeRcAr_MaN
01-12-2003, 09:18 PM
Buick's version of the TrailBlazer?
bowtiebandit
01-12-2003, 09:37 PM
Yes it's called a Rainier.http://buick.com/rainier/
SuPeRcAr_MaN
01-13-2003, 09:48 PM
Oh yea, I've seen that. Not really a fan of it, though. Buick is failing to drop their Old-person car image. And anyway, that just looks like a Rendezvous with some minor changes...
ChevyXtremeFX
02-05-2003, 10:08 PM
All that good stuff I hear about the TrailBlazer, I know it's a great truck and all, my sister has one, BUT......can you disable the Daytime Running Lamps and Automatic Head Lamps on a TB? If not, I won't buy one. That crap's annoying.
Bobcats
04-06-2003, 01:33 PM
Heck yeah! We recently bought an '02, slightly used, LTZ, 2-tone
Looked for several months before finding the right stuff. It has all the bells & whistles, and don't forget the power.
As far as disabling day-lights, you can apply parking brake one notch, or run just parking lights as we do.
Look forward to traveling in style!:bandit:
Looked for several months before finding the right stuff. It has all the bells & whistles, and don't forget the power.
As far as disabling day-lights, you can apply parking brake one notch, or run just parking lights as we do.
Look forward to traveling in style!:bandit:
blaik
05-15-2003, 01:09 AM
I'm gonna have to agree with mjdart on this one....I have a 2002 Trailblazer LS and I have nothing but praise for it. The overall performance is outstanding. I live near quite a few railroad tracks and the tracks are hardly felt, even when going over them at faster than a crawl speeds. As I didn't buy it new, I had no say in the options included, so the only things I will do it will be to add remote keyless entry and eventually cruise control. Other than those two, I'm thoroughly pleased with it.
DickensCPA
07-14-2003, 01:49 PM
I just joined this forum. This past Thursday I traded an '01 Xterra in for an'03 Trailblazer. What a difference. I am thoroughly pleased with the Trailblazer. It's the light pewter LT model w/4WD.
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Bullethole
09-24-2003, 03:25 PM
Just bought a 03 LTZ. Love the engine's torque and smoothness. Spent the last 6 years in a Grand Cherokee so the TB absolutely floats down the road. It will be interesting to see how long the all the whizbangs and gadgets last. Since I have an aversion to computers (they do not like me) I am waiting for the seat to run me all the way into the steering wheel, air bag deploys, a/c turns off, windows up and Bose switches to a wide open Rap station.
MikeGo
10-04-2003, 10:16 PM
Just sold my 02 TrailBlazer lask week, thank god!!!! What a piece of crap! I have always had chevrolet vehicles, and I just purchased another chevy truck, but that TrailBlazer was JUNK!
I bought it new and in my 2 years of ownership, I had the 4wd module replaced 5 times, had both low beam headlights burnout 2 times, the stitching in the rear seat came completely apart, the center console squeaked and rattled since day one, had to have the exhaust system removed and "tweaked" because it banged on the floor everytime I hit a bump, ran out of gas several times because the gauge would stick on a quarter tank, and then about a month and a half ago, with only 49,900 miles on it, the engine went and had to be replaced.
I actually bought an old beater car so I would have something to drive everytime that truck was in the shop.
I bought it new and in my 2 years of ownership, I had the 4wd module replaced 5 times, had both low beam headlights burnout 2 times, the stitching in the rear seat came completely apart, the center console squeaked and rattled since day one, had to have the exhaust system removed and "tweaked" because it banged on the floor everytime I hit a bump, ran out of gas several times because the gauge would stick on a quarter tank, and then about a month and a half ago, with only 49,900 miles on it, the engine went and had to be replaced.
I actually bought an old beater car so I would have something to drive everytime that truck was in the shop.
FXman
11-20-2003, 08:10 PM
Bah, i thought the Randemoize thingy was ugly and jsut plan stupid looking!, i bought a TrailBlazer LTZ to pull my boat and i love i have has no problems so far, i think it`s a great car!
civici
05-17-2004, 03:54 PM
With all the problems I got with my TrailBlazer LS I would get another one as easy as that. I've had lots of problems but all were easy to fix so I don't think those would make me ignore a good car like the TrailBlazer.
Problems I had:-
- When I got it the tyres were dry so the car was vibrating and curving to the right.
- The A/C switch broke up and I had to replace it with the warranty.
- Front and rear lights had some problems so I had to change the cable (There wasn't anything wrong with the lights themsleves. Just wires and stuff..) also with my warranty.
Problems I had:-
- When I got it the tyres were dry so the car was vibrating and curving to the right.
- The A/C switch broke up and I had to replace it with the warranty.
- Front and rear lights had some problems so I had to change the cable (There wasn't anything wrong with the lights themsleves. Just wires and stuff..) also with my warranty.
njyahoo
05-22-2004, 02:21 PM
I got a 2002 Trailblazer LTZ, Yes it has it all from DVD to heated leather seats. The one bad thing is I only get about 16-17 MPG. Im looking for ways to get better MPG.
I have the 02 Olds Bravada with the 4.2L engine. Actually I find the engine a real treat compared with the 4.7 V8 in my old Grand Cherokee. I think because the power comes on so smoothly it is deceptive, but when I punch it on the highway it goes like a bat out of...well you get the idea. As for Gas mileage, I would advise to switch to a quality synthetic oil and add an additive such as Prolong. K&N also has a direct replacement cone filter which will increase the airflow to the engine. I have over 7000 miles on mine now and I noticed since making the changes that my mileage went up to 21.5 mpg hwy (I'm out west so I drive 85 on the interstate) and I am getting between 18/19 city. Stop and go traffic will kill any gas mileage because of constant decel/accel, so I try to avoid areas of constant congestion and I also found that using the cruise control keeps my mileage up. Hope this helps.
I have the 02 Olds Bravada with the 4.2L engine. Actually I find the engine a real treat compared with the 4.7 V8 in my old Grand Cherokee. I think because the power comes on so smoothly it is deceptive, but when I punch it on the highway it goes like a bat out of...well you get the idea. As for Gas mileage, I would advise to switch to a quality synthetic oil and add an additive such as Prolong. K&N also has a direct replacement cone filter which will increase the airflow to the engine. I have over 7000 miles on mine now and I noticed since making the changes that my mileage went up to 21.5 mpg hwy (I'm out west so I drive 85 on the interstate) and I am getting between 18/19 city. Stop and go traffic will kill any gas mileage because of constant decel/accel, so I try to avoid areas of constant congestion and I also found that using the cruise control keeps my mileage up. Hope this helps.
njyahoo
05-22-2004, 02:28 PM
All that good stuff I hear about the TrailBlazer, I know it's a great truck and all, my sister has one, BUT......can you disable the Daytime Running Lamps and Automatic Head Lamps on a TB? If not, I won't buy one. That crap's annoying.
This information should be in your owners manual. I own a 2002 Bravada but the layout should be the same. On your rearview mirror is a small button with a circle and dot. If you push and hold it in for a few seconds the yellow indicator to the left of it will go off turning off the mirrors. Unfortunately I have not figured out how to permanently disable it because as soon as you turn the ign off it resets. The default is ON.
This information should be in your owners manual. I own a 2002 Bravada but the layout should be the same. On your rearview mirror is a small button with a circle and dot. If you push and hold it in for a few seconds the yellow indicator to the left of it will go off turning off the mirrors. Unfortunately I have not figured out how to permanently disable it because as soon as you turn the ign off it resets. The default is ON.
Bullethole
08-25-2004, 10:02 AM
I have stated this elsewhere, but the leather seats in my 03 LTZ are as hard as a park bench. I like my truck but anything this expensive should have more comfortable seats. Chevy sent me a survey and I told them what I thoght but I doubt I will hear anything back from it.
tom3
08-27-2004, 03:18 PM
This is a perfect vehicle to lease. When the thing starts falling apart, ignore it until the lease is up and throw the keys on the desk - run.
laurin1
09-04-2004, 10:14 AM
I've heard the milage improves quite abit after 5,000 miles. I've got 4500 and I see the numbers coming up.
Yes, mine is at 4600 and the numbers are starting to go up. Why is that anyway?
Yes, mine is at 4600 and the numbers are starting to go up. Why is that anyway?
laurin1
09-04-2004, 10:23 AM
All that good stuff I hear about the TrailBlazer, I know it's a great truck and all, my sister has one, BUT......can you disable the Daytime Running Lamps and Automatic Head Lamps on a TB? If not, I won't buy one. That crap's annoying.
Yes, you can disable both.
Yes, you can disable both.
laurin1
09-04-2004, 10:47 AM
Well, maybe it's not a real truck...but it's the closest thing to a truck I've ever owned. I bought my 04 LT model from a friend. His wife had rolled it with 900 miles and he paid cash and only had liability insurance. He rebuilt the body in several areas and we've replaced some supension parts. It needs a paint job....
Even with all that, I LOVE this truck. The performance is amazing. I did not know V6 could perform this well in a vehicle this big. Gas mileage is acceptable to me (16/21), as I do a lot of highway driving and I just came from a 1995 turbo Eclipse...gas mileage was not much better in it. The ride is incredible...smooth as glass. Mine has the 17" aluminum wheels, and it gives it a great feel of being in control of the road. It also has Onstar, a great stereo (I love the steering wheel controls), automatic temparature controls and auto rearview. I love the auto headlights and perimeter lighting. Interior is VERY roomy..and the engine is a breeze to work on.
I bought this vehicle because my finances are in bad shape, but I feel blessed, as this truck ROCKS. :)
Even with all that, I LOVE this truck. The performance is amazing. I did not know V6 could perform this well in a vehicle this big. Gas mileage is acceptable to me (16/21), as I do a lot of highway driving and I just came from a 1995 turbo Eclipse...gas mileage was not much better in it. The ride is incredible...smooth as glass. Mine has the 17" aluminum wheels, and it gives it a great feel of being in control of the road. It also has Onstar, a great stereo (I love the steering wheel controls), automatic temparature controls and auto rearview. I love the auto headlights and perimeter lighting. Interior is VERY roomy..and the engine is a breeze to work on.
I bought this vehicle because my finances are in bad shape, but I feel blessed, as this truck ROCKS. :)
TB02
09-04-2004, 07:36 PM
Why would you buy the Tornado when the Vortec does the same thing? They both cause the air to swirl and one is included in your vehicles design, the other is a $50 decoration for this application. :evillol:
The Black Pearl
10-26-2004, 08:22 PM
I am still waiting for some convincing facts as to why buy a TB.
tom3
10-27-2004, 08:39 AM
Very competitive market. Bottom line I'd say the TB gives you a top machine for the money, as is the case with most GM vehicles. Only downside is spotty quality and service/repair that is not customer driven. Note that GM is not making money on car/truck sales. Padding the bottom line with their credit dept., GMAC, and draining money from their pension plans, and most important for customers, drawing down their warranty reserves. This is money set aside for each vehicle to do warranty repairs. So instead of fixing a problem right, they half a$$ it or just give you the runaround. (Sure speaking from experience there.)
So, again, bottom line. Probably a fine vehicle for the money, if you get a good one. How has your dealer stacked up over the years?
So, again, bottom line. Probably a fine vehicle for the money, if you get a good one. How has your dealer stacked up over the years?
The Black Pearl
10-27-2004, 09:34 PM
tom3
What a great summary of GM. I am leaning towards the Nissan Pathfinder. I can not afford wasting my time and money just to find out I lost the GM lottery and got the bad one.
What a great summary of GM. I am leaning towards the Nissan Pathfinder. I can not afford wasting my time and money just to find out I lost the GM lottery and got the bad one.
civici
11-14-2004, 10:14 AM
I have one, 2003 TB LS. So far so good. But it has so many problems that won't cost you much rather than bother you much.
ERUSS44
11-16-2004, 06:56 PM
I bought a new 2004 TB 4wd LT in late September...I saved a ton of $$$ with the right financing and the coming of the '05's....The odometer just turned 1500 miles...No problems as of yet...I may or may not be a "build-quality lottery winner", it's a wee bit too early to tell, but, so far-so good....I am extremely happy with it so far, and I have received many nice compliments on her...I know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but why did GM ditch the beautiful(in my own opinion)Indigo Blue Metallic color(which my truck is,obviously!)and replace the 2005 blue (Superior Blue) with it????? I assume that it has something to do with a marketing study(sales numbers of the particular color) or something associated similarly...Anyways, I can't wait for the big lake-effect snows here in Central New York state(north of Utica) to give my T'blazer a good run....No snowmobile necessary for me this winter,I'll be plenty happy cruising in my new Chevy!!!! In closing, I wish all Trailblazer owners satisfaction with their product, and to all of the"snakebitten" ones,I hope that your dealership is fixing things right the first time!!!The answer is "YES!", I would buy another one, but please -let me put at least a hundred thousand on this baby first!!!!
kathygarnerville
11-18-2004, 10:43 AM
I did like the way it handled, it was GREAT in bad weather, and the third bench was spacious.
Too bad the dealership I got it from tanked. I don't have it anymore, but, if I found a good dealership in another county and it gets better gas mileage in the future, I'd consider another one
Too bad the dealership I got it from tanked. I don't have it anymore, but, if I found a good dealership in another county and it gets better gas mileage in the future, I'd consider another one
sunspeck
12-14-2004, 11:01 PM
i would buy one i like the looks of it and power it has would you ?
I would never, ever buy another Chevrolet Trailblazer! I saved for over a year to put down a large downpayment on my first new car. I would have been better off just going to the coast and throwing the money in the ocean! I like the looks, handling, and room the TB has to offer, but all those little things that keep breaking, such as the transmission, have become annoying! In the 18 months I have owned this thing, it has had over 20 items repaired/replaced. Some of them multiple times. The service department has lied to me about problems with it and told me things that I feel are broken or in need of repair are actually normal. The ac was fixed twice, the transmission was fixed 3 times and still not acting right. It should not get stuck in park 2-3 times a week, right? Oh yeah, thats normal! If you can get the doors to shut correctly, you can't always get them back open. The transmission idles down almost to a stall when I stop the thing, but thats normal! I think you get the point. I should have kept the 1989 Honda Civic DX hatchback I traded in for this thing. It has 300,000 miles on it, but atleast it only went to the shop 3 times a year mostly for maintenance. Luckly, Chevrolet is not going to make a dime on this car by the time I trade it in for something I can rely on, because I intend to take it back every time something else breaks. I think they have over 5,000 bucks in it for repairs and labor. Only $25,000 to go!
I would never, ever buy another Chevrolet Trailblazer! I saved for over a year to put down a large downpayment on my first new car. I would have been better off just going to the coast and throwing the money in the ocean! I like the looks, handling, and room the TB has to offer, but all those little things that keep breaking, such as the transmission, have become annoying! In the 18 months I have owned this thing, it has had over 20 items repaired/replaced. Some of them multiple times. The service department has lied to me about problems with it and told me things that I feel are broken or in need of repair are actually normal. The ac was fixed twice, the transmission was fixed 3 times and still not acting right. It should not get stuck in park 2-3 times a week, right? Oh yeah, thats normal! If you can get the doors to shut correctly, you can't always get them back open. The transmission idles down almost to a stall when I stop the thing, but thats normal! I think you get the point. I should have kept the 1989 Honda Civic DX hatchback I traded in for this thing. It has 300,000 miles on it, but atleast it only went to the shop 3 times a year mostly for maintenance. Luckly, Chevrolet is not going to make a dime on this car by the time I trade it in for something I can rely on, because I intend to take it back every time something else breaks. I think they have over 5,000 bucks in it for repairs and labor. Only $25,000 to go!
kathygarnerville
12-14-2004, 11:34 PM
I'm glad i didn't have many problems with mine. and, the person who owns it now loves it. i know some others here who own trailblazers and have no problems.
maybe you should check into the lemon law in your state
maybe you should check into the lemon law in your state
sunspeck
12-15-2004, 02:53 PM
I'm in the early stages of dealing with the Better Business Bureau filing a complaint about this TB. Hopefully within a year I'll get the thing bought back, however the dealer of course insists there is nothing really wrong with it. I've known people who never have any problems with them, but I've known more with issues than not.
feb
12-15-2004, 05:50 PM
I have an 03 tb and on the highway, I get 22 - 23 mpg. Now in town, that is a different story. My wife gets about 14 - 15 mpg.
what is the tornado device?
what is the tornado device?
usa1811
12-16-2004, 04:26 PM
Not if I had to do it over again! '04 TB owner
02LTZ
01-19-2005, 08:10 PM
2002 LTZ Four wheel drive with all options. Would buy another tomorrow. 59,000 miles and going strong.
LTZ2FLIP4
01-30-2005, 01:18 AM
I also just picked up a 02 LTZ. I love it. Primarily bought it to haul my showcar around this summer and also use it as a winter vehicle. Ive been wrenching on vehicles my whole life doing alot of custom bodywork but in my case Im pretty sure if something goes wrong I can get under there and fix it. Aside from all the useless electronic BS carmakers like to put on vehicles these days. I looked at Expeditions and Explorers and also Suburbans before deciding on the TB.
Only thing I didnt like was the dealership, after getting the trunk home and looking under it you can tell it was in a minor accident. The rear bumper is misaligned, the front bumper was repainted(very shittily, I might add), fender liner clips were never replaced, the shroud that goes above the firewall is missing. Sux buying a vehicle in winter, cuz it gets dark so early and you cant really see everything at night.
Up next for my TB are some whitefaced guages, a DJM drop kit, and some 22s.
Only thing I didnt like was the dealership, after getting the trunk home and looking under it you can tell it was in a minor accident. The rear bumper is misaligned, the front bumper was repainted(very shittily, I might add), fender liner clips were never replaced, the shroud that goes above the firewall is missing. Sux buying a vehicle in winter, cuz it gets dark so early and you cant really see everything at night.
Up next for my TB are some whitefaced guages, a DJM drop kit, and some 22s.
Mr. Northface
02-26-2005, 10:44 PM
The ONLY reason besides my wife demanding more room.....was the fact that I had my GM Card giving me bonus dollars & GM offering a good rebate. With what I was able to get off of the window sticker & with all the other discounts, I saved over $9000 off of my 2003 EXT 4X4 NorthFace Edition with every available option...minus the DVD for a MoonRoof & the engine block heater.
Otherwise, I had my heart set on the Infiniti FX 35. Now that is a vehicle that I think everyone should drive. Handles great, rides great & the fit & finish is awesome. The dealerships are always really nice to you & you get quality loaner cars if you need overnight service. Plus they even wash your car for you!
Try getting anything close to that for service at any GM dealership! :mad:
I like my TB, but if I had to do it all over again & if my wife didn't have her say so.....it would either have been the Infiniti or a Volkswagen Toureg with the V8.
My TB has held up o.k for the past year and a half. Except for the crappy design of the license plate rubber ALWAYS getting sucked into the body at the upper right hand corner. That has been replaced 3 times already with anticipation for more in the near future! The stupid fan clutch has been replaced twice! Taillight recall...though mine never failed....you just don't get real quality with a Chevy..period! I can say that because I have owned pretty much every one that Chevy makes & yes, that even includes the Corvettes! I just picked up a brand new C6 Convt. yesterday (finally came in after a long time of waiting) & you can still see where they cut corners in it.
All in all, it has a nice amount of room...still would like a little more, but then I would have to go into a Tahoe or a Suburban which everyone has.
I got lucky with mine since they only made my paint color for one year so mine stands out.
Chevy needs to make a 5 speed automatic to help out the fuel economy!!!!!
The TB in my opinion needs more cubby holes to put things. The cup holders under the climate control are way too close to it to put anything in there. Especially if your using the cig. outlets for a radar or powering your phone! Just the overall cheap feeling being on the car is quite a let down. for what mine listed for $43,525.00, you think you would get better quality than you do. But for the price I got mine for....I guess I shouldn't complain too much.
The rear seats I wish they would all fold flat into the floor for better use of the space. Not the way it currently is....don't care for it. I also wish they would have more room to get into the back seats....kinda cramped.
I really wish the rear seats in the TB were like what they have in the Equinox. They move forward to give you more cargo room or back to give you a huge amount of leg room! Now that is what they need to do & now!
A better speaker system is another area they need to improve upon. How about adding some speakers in the rear hatch door for the people in the back?!
The rear heat & air SUCKS! It never blows really hot or blows really cold, but yet the lousy dealers say ...oh, they all do that! Well, my 2000 Suburban 2500 4X4 with every option blows freezing cold air & really really hot heat in the back. So...3 years down the road they can't get it right in the TB?!
Too many squeeks & rattles take away from the vehicle as well.
Don't get me wrong, I still like my TB alot, it is really nice looking & it has a rare color on it that makes it stand out from the rest which makes it really appealing to me. but they really need to improve upon alot of things. Sure I will still keep buying Chevy's because I can get really great prices on them & I know alot of people in the dealership that will bend over backwards to make me happy, but the quality & the very shitty warranty that comes with their vehicles have to change! So, you only will warranty the vehicles for 3yr/36000 miles?
Other places like the Infiniti offer 4 years.
I know for a fact that after 3 years with a chevy they turn to crap. That's why I won't own them for any longer than that until they get better warranties.
My last Corvette had only 3600 miles on it when I sold it. It was out of warranty for time, not miles. So why can't GM offer us people who don't use up the miles something? It just makes me sick. Buy the extended warranty...no thanks...would rather just get rid of the car thank you!
Will I buy another TB in the future? Very hard to say. The competition is making some really nice products & unless GM ups the quality & warranty, I would have to say NO. I plan on keeping my TB for as long as I can. I did buy the extended warranty for 7 years & something like 75000 miles since I never drive many miles anyway. Will it make it to 7 years without something major messing up? Doubt it & that's the only reason why I bought the silly warranty...to save my butte down the road all of the major expenses I know that are coming. Anything after the 3 years/36000 miles.....I know I'm in for a headache :uhoh:
Yet another gripe comes to mind.......the rear window is very hard to close. It is almost like I have to slam the thing to get it to catch. I usually have to do it several times before it latches itself.
I know this seems like I really don't like my TB, but I truely do. I just don't like the shortcuts that GM does on all of their vehicles. Why can't they just spend a little more money in the interior & fit & finish? I would GLADLY pay a little extra to get that from a GM product!
Hey GM, instead of pricing your vehicles into the atmosphere, price them resonably & more sales would be headed your way. Instead of a Cavalier listing for $18 something & you guys have mega rebates on them....like $4500 or more at times.....how about you just price it at $13-14K & just say...hey, the price is what it is........no more silly rebates or dickin' around with invoice pricing......just price the cars resonably. I mean come on......$43 large for a TrailBlazer?! That's what a fully loaded Suburban should go for at the extreme. $65K list on my new Vette? Very nice vehicle, but really.....price the car more like around $50 for the Convert. & you probably wouldn't be able to keep up with demand. Heck, you had up to $10K off on the 2004's......
Price your vehicles better & up your quality & warranty & you won't need the rebates. People will be banging down your doors for your products.
Just my :2cents:
Otherwise, I had my heart set on the Infiniti FX 35. Now that is a vehicle that I think everyone should drive. Handles great, rides great & the fit & finish is awesome. The dealerships are always really nice to you & you get quality loaner cars if you need overnight service. Plus they even wash your car for you!
Try getting anything close to that for service at any GM dealership! :mad:
I like my TB, but if I had to do it all over again & if my wife didn't have her say so.....it would either have been the Infiniti or a Volkswagen Toureg with the V8.
My TB has held up o.k for the past year and a half. Except for the crappy design of the license plate rubber ALWAYS getting sucked into the body at the upper right hand corner. That has been replaced 3 times already with anticipation for more in the near future! The stupid fan clutch has been replaced twice! Taillight recall...though mine never failed....you just don't get real quality with a Chevy..period! I can say that because I have owned pretty much every one that Chevy makes & yes, that even includes the Corvettes! I just picked up a brand new C6 Convt. yesterday (finally came in after a long time of waiting) & you can still see where they cut corners in it.
All in all, it has a nice amount of room...still would like a little more, but then I would have to go into a Tahoe or a Suburban which everyone has.
I got lucky with mine since they only made my paint color for one year so mine stands out.
Chevy needs to make a 5 speed automatic to help out the fuel economy!!!!!
The TB in my opinion needs more cubby holes to put things. The cup holders under the climate control are way too close to it to put anything in there. Especially if your using the cig. outlets for a radar or powering your phone! Just the overall cheap feeling being on the car is quite a let down. for what mine listed for $43,525.00, you think you would get better quality than you do. But for the price I got mine for....I guess I shouldn't complain too much.
The rear seats I wish they would all fold flat into the floor for better use of the space. Not the way it currently is....don't care for it. I also wish they would have more room to get into the back seats....kinda cramped.
I really wish the rear seats in the TB were like what they have in the Equinox. They move forward to give you more cargo room or back to give you a huge amount of leg room! Now that is what they need to do & now!
A better speaker system is another area they need to improve upon. How about adding some speakers in the rear hatch door for the people in the back?!
The rear heat & air SUCKS! It never blows really hot or blows really cold, but yet the lousy dealers say ...oh, they all do that! Well, my 2000 Suburban 2500 4X4 with every option blows freezing cold air & really really hot heat in the back. So...3 years down the road they can't get it right in the TB?!
Too many squeeks & rattles take away from the vehicle as well.
Don't get me wrong, I still like my TB alot, it is really nice looking & it has a rare color on it that makes it stand out from the rest which makes it really appealing to me. but they really need to improve upon alot of things. Sure I will still keep buying Chevy's because I can get really great prices on them & I know alot of people in the dealership that will bend over backwards to make me happy, but the quality & the very shitty warranty that comes with their vehicles have to change! So, you only will warranty the vehicles for 3yr/36000 miles?
Other places like the Infiniti offer 4 years.
I know for a fact that after 3 years with a chevy they turn to crap. That's why I won't own them for any longer than that until they get better warranties.
My last Corvette had only 3600 miles on it when I sold it. It was out of warranty for time, not miles. So why can't GM offer us people who don't use up the miles something? It just makes me sick. Buy the extended warranty...no thanks...would rather just get rid of the car thank you!
Will I buy another TB in the future? Very hard to say. The competition is making some really nice products & unless GM ups the quality & warranty, I would have to say NO. I plan on keeping my TB for as long as I can. I did buy the extended warranty for 7 years & something like 75000 miles since I never drive many miles anyway. Will it make it to 7 years without something major messing up? Doubt it & that's the only reason why I bought the silly warranty...to save my butte down the road all of the major expenses I know that are coming. Anything after the 3 years/36000 miles.....I know I'm in for a headache :uhoh:
Yet another gripe comes to mind.......the rear window is very hard to close. It is almost like I have to slam the thing to get it to catch. I usually have to do it several times before it latches itself.
I know this seems like I really don't like my TB, but I truely do. I just don't like the shortcuts that GM does on all of their vehicles. Why can't they just spend a little more money in the interior & fit & finish? I would GLADLY pay a little extra to get that from a GM product!
Hey GM, instead of pricing your vehicles into the atmosphere, price them resonably & more sales would be headed your way. Instead of a Cavalier listing for $18 something & you guys have mega rebates on them....like $4500 or more at times.....how about you just price it at $13-14K & just say...hey, the price is what it is........no more silly rebates or dickin' around with invoice pricing......just price the cars resonably. I mean come on......$43 large for a TrailBlazer?! That's what a fully loaded Suburban should go for at the extreme. $65K list on my new Vette? Very nice vehicle, but really.....price the car more like around $50 for the Convert. & you probably wouldn't be able to keep up with demand. Heck, you had up to $10K off on the 2004's......
Price your vehicles better & up your quality & warranty & you won't need the rebates. People will be banging down your doors for your products.
Just my :2cents:
The Black Pearl
03-03-2005, 10:27 PM
Bought an 04 extended today...
dh4645
10-24-2005, 11:37 AM
Just bought mine in June '05 with the employee discount deal. nice!!!
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2034806
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2034806
dach95
11-17-2005, 08:40 AM
The I6 engine is one of the top ten engines 5 years in a row since it's debute 2002.
pdqgp
11-17-2005, 12:05 PM
well then they missed the initial TSB Release extending the warranty. Trust me, I know....I had one and got the official letter from GM for the loose cylinder liners issue.
TSB Number Issue Date TSB Title
1. 03019 JUN 03 Campaign - Cylinder Liner Cracking Warranty
Extension
Maybe they addressed that issue since....I hope so, but I don't think they've addressed the Fan Clutch that zaps power in hot weather when the AC is running. I can research posts everywhere on that issue but no thanks. Loved my LTZ but was happy to sell it.
The I6 engine is one of the top ten engines 5 years in a row since it's debute 2002.
TSB Number Issue Date TSB Title
1. 03019 JUN 03 Campaign - Cylinder Liner Cracking Warranty
Extension
Maybe they addressed that issue since....I hope so, but I don't think they've addressed the Fan Clutch that zaps power in hot weather when the AC is running. I can research posts everywhere on that issue but no thanks. Loved my LTZ but was happy to sell it.
The I6 engine is one of the top ten engines 5 years in a row since it's debute 2002.
TBlazer67
01-24-2006, 03:36 PM
Seriously, all I see is complaints and some praise for the TB. Most of the complaints I see refer to 2004's or prior. It's now 2006 time, with 2007's peering from around the corner. Where does the TB stand NOW? I don't care about what they were like 2-3 years ago, times change and vehicles improve.
I had a 2001 Dodge Grand Caravan. EVERYONE commented about how the transmissions in the model year or two prior had major failures, and that my 2001 would probably have similar issues. Well, my engine just blew after 102,000+ miles. The "bearings" went out. So, I worked a trade-in with a dealer and after tomorrow I will be an owner of a new 2005 TB LS. Granted, it's not a roomy mini-van, but the TB hauls and does have some nice features like the Bose stereo, XM radio built-in, OnStar and sunroof. And I'll tell you right now, I compared the 2005 TB t a 2006 Tahoe, and the TB runs circles around the Tahoe!
So please, anyone with a 2005-2006 TB, what do YOU think??
I had a 2001 Dodge Grand Caravan. EVERYONE commented about how the transmissions in the model year or two prior had major failures, and that my 2001 would probably have similar issues. Well, my engine just blew after 102,000+ miles. The "bearings" went out. So, I worked a trade-in with a dealer and after tomorrow I will be an owner of a new 2005 TB LS. Granted, it's not a roomy mini-van, but the TB hauls and does have some nice features like the Bose stereo, XM radio built-in, OnStar and sunroof. And I'll tell you right now, I compared the 2005 TB t a 2006 Tahoe, and the TB runs circles around the Tahoe!
So please, anyone with a 2005-2006 TB, what do YOU think??
phewop118
01-24-2006, 08:32 PM
The 05 is great! I have an 05 Ext v8. It has had some minor problems (a power window regulator failed, bad powerseat motor, 2 bad radios, etc) but I think all the problems have been cleaned up (I hope). These are just "initial quality" problems and won't be long term problems.
pdqgp
01-25-2006, 12:11 AM
I agree....they likely have gotten better. The new SS is sweet and with a PCM tune, can really haul arse into the mid 13's....but hopefully they will get a redesign in place soon as the current body is a bit dated.
Seriously, all I see is complaints and some praise for the TB. Most of the complaints I see refer to 2004's or prior. It's now 2006 time, with 2007's peering from around the corner. Where does the TB stand NOW? I don't care about what they were like 2-3 years ago, times change and vehicles improve.
Seriously, all I see is complaints and some praise for the TB. Most of the complaints I see refer to 2004's or prior. It's now 2006 time, with 2007's peering from around the corner. Where does the TB stand NOW? I don't care about what they were like 2-3 years ago, times change and vehicles improve.
njyahoo
01-25-2006, 01:28 AM
I own the 2002 Bravada and so far it has been a jewel. I have had the fan clutch problem which was resolved under the extended warranty. I downloaded the info sheet from this website which contained all the TB's to correct the problem. The shop used the instructions and uploaded the latest patches for the PC.
I have done some minor upgrades to the intake with the stock K&N filter and replaced the muffler with a Turbo exhaust. A little more rummble but not really noticable when cruising. Kick it in the Arse and it flies like a jet. I actually got 21+ mpg on a trip to OKC from SLC last November and I cruised 80+ all the way. I am currently towing a 3800lb trailer and the upgrades were necessary to aid in towability. Now if anyone knew how to install an aftermarket supercharger this thing would really fly.
I have done some minor upgrades to the intake with the stock K&N filter and replaced the muffler with a Turbo exhaust. A little more rummble but not really noticable when cruising. Kick it in the Arse and it flies like a jet. I actually got 21+ mpg on a trip to OKC from SLC last November and I cruised 80+ all the way. I am currently towing a 3800lb trailer and the upgrades were necessary to aid in towability. Now if anyone knew how to install an aftermarket supercharger this thing would really fly.
ScarabEpic22
01-26-2006, 01:20 AM
I have an 02 TB, no major problems so far at 58K. The bodystyle will die after 2007 with the introduction of the 2008 new bodystyle TB and Envoy. All other variants will die, including the EXT and XL versions of the TB and Envoy. The SWB models will be enlarged to fit 7 people.
Unfortunately, no supercharger or turbo kits have been made for production. There are a few turbos in the works at TrailVoy.com, but other than that, nothing. Whipple prototyped a supercharger that never materialized due to "not enough market demand" for it.
And, yes, the TB SS is a sweeeeet truck!!!!:D I really want one, but cant afford to get one now!!
Unfortunately, no supercharger or turbo kits have been made for production. There are a few turbos in the works at TrailVoy.com, but other than that, nothing. Whipple prototyped a supercharger that never materialized due to "not enough market demand" for it.
And, yes, the TB SS is a sweeeeet truck!!!!:D I really want one, but cant afford to get one now!!
TBlazer67
01-27-2006, 11:43 AM
Well, I did it! I now own a 2005 TB LS. I went with the LS only because I still had a loan that had to be rolled into the TB loan. The one thing I hate already about the 2005 models is the lack of a DIC like what the 2006's have. Otherwise, I've got a sunroof, Bose stereo <I agree about this, the back speakers sound almost non-existant> and XM radio. So, I'm happy!
It's brand new, and only had 88 miles on it when I first started driving it. Guess we'll see how this thing goes, but so far so good!
I do plan to eventually start mod'ing it, so if anyone has suggestions or comments on their experiences, feel free to share. :-)
Thanks!
New '05 TB owner!
It's brand new, and only had 88 miles on it when I first started driving it. Guess we'll see how this thing goes, but so far so good!
I do plan to eventually start mod'ing it, so if anyone has suggestions or comments on their experiences, feel free to share. :-)
Thanks!
New '05 TB owner!
ScarabEpic22
01-29-2006, 09:26 PM
Well, I did it! I now own a 2005 TB LS. I went with the LS only because I still had a loan that had to be rolled into the TB loan. The one thing I hate already about the 2005 models is the lack of a DIC like what the 2006's have. Otherwise, I've got a sunroof, Bose stereo <I agree about this, the back speakers sound almost non-existant> and XM radio. So, I'm happy!
It's brand new, and only had 88 miles on it when I first started driving it. Guess we'll see how this thing goes, but so far so good!
I do plan to eventually start mod'ing it, so if anyone has suggestions or comments on their experiences, feel free to share. :-)
Thanks!
New '05 TB owner!
Congrats, but the DIC is an option that only comes with the highest LT package for all years, except for 02-04 where the LTs (as an option package); and LTZ and TNF editions had it standard.
It's brand new, and only had 88 miles on it when I first started driving it. Guess we'll see how this thing goes, but so far so good!
I do plan to eventually start mod'ing it, so if anyone has suggestions or comments on their experiences, feel free to share. :-)
Thanks!
New '05 TB owner!
Congrats, but the DIC is an option that only comes with the highest LT package for all years, except for 02-04 where the LTs (as an option package); and LTZ and TNF editions had it standard.
RootBreaker
01-31-2006, 02:03 PM
I too have just purchased a 2005 TB EXT LS.
Almost bought a 2006 LS but got the 2005 with... Running Boards, Onstar, XM Radio, DVD Player to which the 06 didnt have and I got it for $1500 less....
plus it was blue and the 06 was white.. we wanted the blue...
our trade in was a 1996 GMC Jimmy SLT (im gonna miss my leather seats)
but it was starting to need alot.. just replaced the fuel pump ($230) just so I could get it to the Stealership... however it was in need of tires, heater core, massive oil leak and a few other minor things....
my brother has a issuzu ascender and it is pretty much the same thing...
I needed something dependable for my wife... she takes care of our 6 year old and with a bun in the oven.. I dont need any suprise break downs.....
see the oil leak the 96 left.. and that was 1 day and it was 8' long!!!! :banghead:
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/285945/fullsize/2005TrailBlazerEXT.jpg
Almost bought a 2006 LS but got the 2005 with... Running Boards, Onstar, XM Radio, DVD Player to which the 06 didnt have and I got it for $1500 less....
plus it was blue and the 06 was white.. we wanted the blue...
our trade in was a 1996 GMC Jimmy SLT (im gonna miss my leather seats)
but it was starting to need alot.. just replaced the fuel pump ($230) just so I could get it to the Stealership... however it was in need of tires, heater core, massive oil leak and a few other minor things....
my brother has a issuzu ascender and it is pretty much the same thing...
I needed something dependable for my wife... she takes care of our 6 year old and with a bun in the oven.. I dont need any suprise break downs.....
see the oil leak the 96 left.. and that was 1 day and it was 8' long!!!! :banghead:
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/285945/fullsize/2005TrailBlazerEXT.jpg
rodeo02
03-12-2006, 06:21 AM
I'd never buy one brand-new. A year or two old with a few miles, DEFINATELY! They depreciate horribly. Love the engine & drivetrain. Interior/exterior quality is typical GM junk.
Joel
Joel
livalidle
03-12-2006, 08:02 AM
Thanks but I got over 12,000 Now. so I order a tornado in hopes that my MPG will get better.
I put one of these in my 03 Dakota and then put one in my 05 Caravan and they made no differance in mileage and in the van it actually took power away.
I put one of these in my 03 Dakota and then put one in my 05 Caravan and they made no differance in mileage and in the van it actually took power away.
tom3
03-12-2006, 11:01 AM
That is one serious truck you have beside the TB. Is that an air intake beside the passenger fender/windshield area? whoa.
I too have just purchased a 2005 TB EXT LS.
:banghead:
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/285945/fullsize/2005TrailBlazerEXT.jpg
I too have just purchased a 2005 TB EXT LS.
:banghead:
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/285945/fullsize/2005TrailBlazerEXT.jpg
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