Can someone do a how to?
Wes Moran
08-10-2003, 04:00 PM
Can someone do a how to on the best way to sand and paint rims also how to strip the chrome off?
Thanks
Thanks
willimo
08-10-2003, 06:42 PM
Removing chrome = Easy Off oven cleaner. Put it in a decent cup (it will melt a styrofoam cup, but don't use a cup you'll ever drink out of again) and throw in the chrome bits (ie rims) and wait over night. The next morning, it'll be chrome free. Just don't touch the Easy Off, it'll burn you.
I don't imagine you need to sand the rims, if you want the paint to adhere, just spray a thing coat of primer. And when you paint, spray thing coats since wheels usually have alot of fine deteail. If you want to paint them chrome, I hear this Alclad II is pretty good.
I don't imagine you need to sand the rims, if you want the paint to adhere, just spray a thing coat of primer. And when you paint, spray thing coats since wheels usually have alot of fine deteail. If you want to paint them chrome, I hear this Alclad II is pretty good.
SniperX13
08-10-2003, 06:50 PM
really good tip, but can someone explain why the easy off will destroy the stryrofoam cup.... the chrome... even burn your skin.... but not harm the plastic? especially letting it sit overnight....
curious minds want to know :)
:twak:
curious minds want to know :)
:twak:
Jay!
08-10-2003, 06:52 PM
Bleach strips most chrome...
EMAXX
08-10-2003, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by SniperX13
really good tip, but can someone explain why the easy off will destroy the stryrofoam cup.... the chrome... even burn your skin.... but not harm the plastic? especially letting it sit overnight....
curious minds want to know :)
:twak:
Thats what I was really wondering too as I read it.:confused:
really good tip, but can someone explain why the easy off will destroy the stryrofoam cup.... the chrome... even burn your skin.... but not harm the plastic? especially letting it sit overnight....
curious minds want to know :)
:twak:
Thats what I was really wondering too as I read it.:confused:
willimo
08-10-2003, 08:44 PM
It doesn't destroy the chrome. I'm not really sure what it does, but it comes clear off without "destroying" it. I'm not really sure why the plastic isn't harmed, but I imagine it's either because 1. the lacquer they spray on the plastic to provide a smooth chroming surface protects the plastic or 2. You need a certain solvent (toulene based) to harm the plastic, but the Easy Off isn't that kind of solvent. Either way, I'm not sure how it works, but it does.
Fastphil
08-11-2003, 04:54 PM
Easy-Off sucks arse. Use Castrol Super Clean to strip chrome and basically anything except Tamiya paints.
BaNe
08-12-2003, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by Fastphil
Easy-Off sucks arse. Use Castrol Super Clean to strip chrome and basically anything except Tamiya paints.
:werd: it will strip tamiya if you have used primer usually
Easy-Off sucks arse. Use Castrol Super Clean to strip chrome and basically anything except Tamiya paints.
:werd: it will strip tamiya if you have used primer usually
ZoomZoomMX-5
08-12-2003, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by Fastphil
Easy-Off sucks arse. Use Castrol Super Clean to strip chrome and basically anything except Tamiya paints.
Funny, that's what I say about Super Clean :rolleyes:
I hate the stuff, it's too damned slow and you have to have a huge lake of it to strip anything off. About the only thing it's better for is stripping clear parts or cleaning the brake dust off the wheels & tires on your 1:1 ride.
Easy off strips most paint much faster. You don't need to leave a vat of it overnight or for weeks waiting for it to strip the parts. You spray it into a rubbermaid container, let it work for about 30 minutes, use an old toothbrush and tap water to scrub it off-while wearing gloves. Yeah, you need to be careful w/it, but you can't touch CSC either.
Easy off is also much faster at removing chrome and the clearcoat underneath the chrome. The chrome dissolves within a minute or two, the clearcoat takes a bit longer. If you just want to get rid of the plating and leave the clearcoat, there simply is nothing better than Easy Off. You are ready to repaint in minutes.
Dunno why Easy Off doesn't affect plastic-though it isn't safe for clear plastics like Super Clean.
Easy-Off sucks arse. Use Castrol Super Clean to strip chrome and basically anything except Tamiya paints.
Funny, that's what I say about Super Clean :rolleyes:
I hate the stuff, it's too damned slow and you have to have a huge lake of it to strip anything off. About the only thing it's better for is stripping clear parts or cleaning the brake dust off the wheels & tires on your 1:1 ride.
Easy off strips most paint much faster. You don't need to leave a vat of it overnight or for weeks waiting for it to strip the parts. You spray it into a rubbermaid container, let it work for about 30 minutes, use an old toothbrush and tap water to scrub it off-while wearing gloves. Yeah, you need to be careful w/it, but you can't touch CSC either.
Easy off is also much faster at removing chrome and the clearcoat underneath the chrome. The chrome dissolves within a minute or two, the clearcoat takes a bit longer. If you just want to get rid of the plating and leave the clearcoat, there simply is nothing better than Easy Off. You are ready to repaint in minutes.
Dunno why Easy Off doesn't affect plastic-though it isn't safe for clear plastics like Super Clean.
tdoty
08-12-2003, 05:23 PM
Why doesn't it destroy the plastic? Well, there are a number corrosive chemicals that will not harm plastic. Pure chemistry, and I'm no chemist, but I can give you some examples of other plastic friendly, yet very caustic chemicals:
Ferric Chloride: Ferric Cholride is used in photoetching, it is similar to acid, it destroys metal very well (even stainless steel), but it is sold and stored in plastic bottles.
Muratic acid: Muratic acid is a hydrochloric acid blend used for etching metals, cleaning stains from concrete and things of that nature. Muratic acid is not something you want on your skin, and tends to make a smoking mess of most things it touches - except plastic and glass.
Battery acid: Most automotive batteries are filled with lead and acid, and have a plastic case.
The Sodium Hydroxide (lye) in Easy off is listed as a caustic chemical which reacts to metals - so I'm not sure why it is sold in metal spray cans. Check out: http://sliunix.lanecc.edu/~gaudia/msds.htm , the MSDS sheet for sodium hydroxide.
I cannot remember the active ingredient in CSC, but Purple Power uses the same thing. Honestly, I'm not impressed with CSC as a degreaser, but it's a nice cheap paint stripper. I don't have a "big pond" of CSC, I just use a 1 gallon pickle jar. Most paint jobs are stripped overnight, for me, and it removes chrome in no time. It doesn't, howver, dissolve the paint. Instead, it destroys the paint's bond on the surface.
Why am I a proponent of CSC? Well, among other things, my grandmother was blind in her right eye from the age of 12 due to exposure to lye. A childhood accident, but still one of the dangers. Easy-Off does burn your skin. On the other hand, I use CSC and Purple Power all the time, with bare hands. Washing your hands immediately afterward is, however, definitely required! I don't recommend doing it, and I don't know anyone who does recommend exposing your bare skin to CSC, just one of my dumb habits.
Anyway, there are a large number of chemicals that are dangerous to all manner of materials, yet can be safely applied to plastic.
Hope this helps, a little.
Tim D.
Ferric Chloride: Ferric Cholride is used in photoetching, it is similar to acid, it destroys metal very well (even stainless steel), but it is sold and stored in plastic bottles.
Muratic acid: Muratic acid is a hydrochloric acid blend used for etching metals, cleaning stains from concrete and things of that nature. Muratic acid is not something you want on your skin, and tends to make a smoking mess of most things it touches - except plastic and glass.
Battery acid: Most automotive batteries are filled with lead and acid, and have a plastic case.
The Sodium Hydroxide (lye) in Easy off is listed as a caustic chemical which reacts to metals - so I'm not sure why it is sold in metal spray cans. Check out: http://sliunix.lanecc.edu/~gaudia/msds.htm , the MSDS sheet for sodium hydroxide.
I cannot remember the active ingredient in CSC, but Purple Power uses the same thing. Honestly, I'm not impressed with CSC as a degreaser, but it's a nice cheap paint stripper. I don't have a "big pond" of CSC, I just use a 1 gallon pickle jar. Most paint jobs are stripped overnight, for me, and it removes chrome in no time. It doesn't, howver, dissolve the paint. Instead, it destroys the paint's bond on the surface.
Why am I a proponent of CSC? Well, among other things, my grandmother was blind in her right eye from the age of 12 due to exposure to lye. A childhood accident, but still one of the dangers. Easy-Off does burn your skin. On the other hand, I use CSC and Purple Power all the time, with bare hands. Washing your hands immediately afterward is, however, definitely required! I don't recommend doing it, and I don't know anyone who does recommend exposing your bare skin to CSC, just one of my dumb habits.
Anyway, there are a large number of chemicals that are dangerous to all manner of materials, yet can be safely applied to plastic.
Hope this helps, a little.
Tim D.
SniperX13
08-12-2003, 06:45 PM
Damn........ Well....... I believe my question has been answered to the upmost satisfation. Thank You.
:twak:
:twak:
Ferrari TR
08-12-2003, 06:52 PM
If you have a choice try both strippers (easy-off & CSC ) on some plated Sprue scraps or some scrap parts. Sometimes one or the other works much better on a particular part. Plating varies from kit to kit even within a brand. The last kit I used CSC on was a Mini Cooper (revell), three of the wheels stripped in about a minute while the forth took over a day.
And try not to get either product on your skin!
:tongue:
And try not to get either product on your skin!
:tongue:
dag65
08-12-2003, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by Fastphil
Easy-Off sucks arse. Use Castrol Super Clean to strip chrome and basically anything except Tamiya paints. :iagree: just make sure to use gloves, 10 to 15 minutes and its clean
Heres another tipo, I found a small glass jar with an opening large enough for the cap from a can of Duplicolor to fit through. I drilled drainage holes in the cap and attached a piece of bent wire for a handle, filll the jar with CSC and lower the parts in , when they are done you don't have to fish around for them , just grab the handle and pull up the basket you made from the cap:bigthumb:
Easy-Off sucks arse. Use Castrol Super Clean to strip chrome and basically anything except Tamiya paints. :iagree: just make sure to use gloves, 10 to 15 minutes and its clean
Heres another tipo, I found a small glass jar with an opening large enough for the cap from a can of Duplicolor to fit through. I drilled drainage holes in the cap and attached a piece of bent wire for a handle, filll the jar with CSC and lower the parts in , when they are done you don't have to fish around for them , just grab the handle and pull up the basket you made from the cap:bigthumb:
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