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phat new r35


dball
08-08-2003, 12:04 AM
the new r35 is gonna be tight a twin turbo v8 should run faster than the 6 lol

RazorGTR
08-08-2003, 07:46 AM
Prove it is! Without PROOF nothing to comment on.

racingbreed20
08-08-2003, 06:13 PM
Still love the Ol' RB series

sKyLiNe_69
08-14-2003, 09:10 AM
I think they should've put a RB26DETT in it, who cares about big V8's.

ZZII
08-19-2003, 08:21 PM
I think they should've put a RB26DETT in it, who cares about big V8's.


Yeah! the RB's are (to me) the best engine in the world! 8900 RPM's, twin turbo, and straight-6 cylinders! Shit, i'll take that over anything. just give me a couple more thousand bucks, and this baby will burn anything u can think of! the R35 will suck without an RB!

VQuick
08-20-2003, 12:04 PM
The RB has also been discontinued for about a year.:rolleyes: Given the heavier platform, the R35 would also weigh at least 3700lbs with an RB, too. Shoot, the V8 probably weighs less than the RB does.

omegasky
08-20-2003, 12:14 PM
The RB has also been discontinued for about a year.:rolleyes: Given the heavier platform, the R35 would also weigh at least 3700lbs with an RB, too. Shoot, the V8 probably weighs less than the RB does.
yep! :iagree:

omegasky
08-20-2003, 12:15 PM
vquick, you forgot to mention that the v8 might be aluminum. :cool:

VQuick
08-20-2003, 08:23 PM
There's no way the V8 can't be aluminum, if you think about it. There's only one V8 currently in production by Nissan, and it's aluminum block. All right, there's two, if you count the Titan's 'Endurance' V8, but the Titan motor appears to be based on the VK.

Since the VK seems to be an 8 cylinder version of the VQ, I'd venture to guess the engine doesn't weigh much more than 300lbs with accessories. The VQ, btw, weighs only 108lbs.

omegasky
08-21-2003, 02:10 PM
vquich, you've gone mad,hehe, I'm sure the next gtr will have the vq, no way in hell that it will have a vk lol, 400hp is ell withing the reach, twin turbo vq, not bad.Greddy in the u.s. has a twin turbo vq in the 350z, it pack's 340hp at 5.6psi of boost and that's with very very few mod's on it, and it's carb legal, we dont' have to worry about carb if you're not in california. :eek:
Just imagine a vq twin turbo similar to the one in greddy's 350z at 1 bar of boost(15psi), that'll make something in the 400hp range, with some bolt on's you'll probably get some 500hp, now that sound's good indeed.
I think that gredy's 350z twin turbo engine is the closest to what type of engine we can expect from the next gtr, anyone disagree, if so state your justification?

VQuick
08-21-2003, 04:13 PM
Yeah, it's almost a given that the next GT-R will have a VQxxDETT, at least in Japan. What has people worked up is the rumor that the US may get a V8 instead. I don't understand why they don't want the V8. Sure it's NA, but there's even more potential to be found.

Just imagine a vq twin turbo similar to the one in greddy's 350z at 1 bar of boost(15psi), that'll make something in the 400hp range, with some bolt on's you'll probably get some 500hp, now that sound's good indeed.

I don't really have to imagine much. There's single turbo VQ30DE Maximas making around 500bhp(429fwhp) on stock internals and under 1 bar of boost.:iceslolan But yeah, I see your point.:p

moondog
08-21-2003, 08:59 PM
Yeah, it's almost a given that the next GT-R will have a VQxxDETT, at least in Japan. What has people worked up is the rumor that the US may get a V8 instead. I don't understand why they don't want the V8. Sure it's NA, but there's even more potential to be found.

More potential in an n/a V8 than a twin-turbo 6? :eek7: No way in hell.

Neutrino
08-22-2003, 06:12 AM
More potential in an n/a V8 than a twin-turbo 6? :eek7: No way in hell.


he was refering most likely to higher displacement

omegasky
08-22-2003, 07:41 AM
as they say, "no better replacement than more displacement".
note to self:the 350z in the states has a "N/A v6" dishing out 240hp at the wheel's, 275hp at the flywheel stock, wonder how much a vq v8 might put out, something close to 350hp I suppose, few bolt's and vouila, 400hp baby! :smokin:

omegasky
08-22-2003, 07:42 AM
also no worries of detonation with a N/A, unless you increase the compression ratio.

ZZII
08-22-2003, 09:56 AM
I say forget the V8. The Skyline got famous because of the engine. who cares if the car looks good, but blows. Yes, the RB is heavier, but it's worth it.

Neutrino
08-22-2003, 10:10 AM
I say forget the V8. The Skyline got famous because of the engine. who cares if the car looks good, but blows. Yes, the RB is heavier, but it's worth it.


i belive its pretty sure the RB will not be present in the new r35

omegasky
08-22-2003, 12:43 PM
as neutrino say's, its pretty obvious the rb won't appear in the new gtr, i think im sticking with nissan, it's true that the rb is a old exploited to the max engine, i know that you fella don't own a skyine because if you were to own one or owned one you would agree that the rb has pretty much been modded to the max already by many people, also you might have noticed that nissan is using the vq in their sport's car the 350z, yeah, why not in the next gtr also, ah forgot that part did you. :)

VQuick
08-22-2003, 01:25 PM
Yeah, the VK45DE V8 is very nice. It already makes 340hp in very mild(read: whisper-quiet luxury) tune. Add some hotter cams, possibly a shorter stroke for better revving(4-liters?), and 400hp NA won't be a problem.

Alloy V8s are the next big thing. The Maserati 4200GT is a big hit, after the 3.2L turbo 3200GT kind of flopped a bit. BMW will probably use one for the next M3, Honda was considering one for the next NSX, and there was supposed to be a Supra replacement with one.

Don't get me wrong, a turbo VQ won't be a bad thing. It's just that for the ultimate potential, the VK is where it's at. Everything that could be done to the VQ can be done to the VK, with even better results.

omegasky
08-22-2003, 01:41 PM
yes i can see the benefit's on using a vk, but nissan isn't concentrating on using it at the moment, they're looking into the vq v6's and what it has to offer, they're looking into turbocharging it also, they'll probably do it for the next gtr first. :cool:

VQuick
08-22-2003, 02:47 PM
they're looking into turbocharging it also, they'll probably do it for the next gtr first. :cool:

Too late! The VQ25DET already makes '276hp, though I can't remember what it is used in. Might be the Stagea.

The VQ30DET is rated at the same '276hp.' :rolleyes: An indicator of it's true power is the fact that it is used in the Cedric/Gloria twins, which give up little if any performance to their US counterpart, the 340hp V8 Infiniti M45.

I figure the VQ in the GT-R won't be a full VQ35, for the reason that the compression ratio is too high(10.2:1). It might be a VQ34 like Top Secret's motor, or even a VQ33.

omegasky
08-22-2003, 03:00 PM
im talking about the new NEO vq that nissan has been using these recent year's, i do know that nissan has turbocharged the vq in the 300zx and it's pumped out 280hp but that car is old new's, let's talk about the new and most vulnerable vq.
i disagree though, i think they'll be using the vq35, they can figure out way's of lowering compression and making it safe for a turbo, they are nissan, they can make the part's.
im sure that the engine will be looking real good.

omegasky
08-22-2003, 03:02 PM
I figure the VQ in the GT-R won't be a full VQ35, for the reason that the compression ratio is too high(10.2:1). It might be a VQ34 like Top Secret's motor, or even a VQ33.
read about greddy's turbocharged 350z lol, it's basically the same platform with different body design.
one thing is for certain, if the next gtr does come out it will not be powered by an rb series engine!!

VQuick
08-22-2003, 03:16 PM
im talking about the new NEO vq that nissan has been using these recent year's, i do know that nissan has turbocharged the vq in the 300zx and it's pumped out 280hp but that car is old new's, let's talk about the new and most vulnerable vq.

I am talking about the VQ. Nissan's been using it since 1995.

You're thinking of the VG, an iron block 3L motor used in the Z31 300ZX and 85-90 Maximas in SOHC form VG30E(T). Later, there was the DOHC VG30DE(TT) in the Z32 300ZX. A VG33DE(R) is still used in Nissan trucks, but that's another story.

What I'm saying about the engine capacity is that it might be reduced as a result of using dished, low-compression pistons. That's why the VQ35 Top Secret swapped into an R34 GT-R was really a VQ34. Bringing the 10.2:1 ratio down to a more favorable 8.x:1 range will drop the displacement somewhat.

VQuick
08-22-2003, 03:19 PM
read about greddy's turbocharged 350z lol, it's basically the same platform with different body design.
one thing is for certain, if the next gtr does come out it will not be powered by an rb series engine!!

Yeah, I know about it. The longer wheelbase Skyline Coupe will probably be the basis for the next GT-R, since the handling is more stable.The VQ will be just fine, too. The RB is discontinued, so we can forget about seeing it.

omegasky
08-22-2003, 04:03 PM
Yeah, I know about it. The longer wheelbase Skyline Coupe will probaboy be the basis for the next GT-R, since the handling is more stable.The VQ will be just fine, too. The RB is discontinued, so we can forget about seeing it.
yep! :iagree:

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