Civic Plans

here is the deal

I am only 16 and I have a 1986 Honda Accord
its fairly done up, but it doesnt have the aftermarket support i want... its pretty quick, but the 2890 lb with driver weight is way to heavy to get much speed from it...

i can sell this car for around 3000 bucks to some kid in town. the car is fairly modified (weber carb, lowered on full bodied coilovers, 17 inch wheels, headers and full exhaust, roll cage with gutted interior and a bumpin audio system)

When i graduate, i get 10 000 bucks as a gift. I need about 3500 for tools as i am becoming a mechanic.

that leaves me with about 10 000 bucks after selling the accord.
i can pick up a nice clean low mileage civic SI for about 3500..

so im now down to 6500 canadian dollars for mods...
this is what i have come up with...

D16A6 Engine Buildup

crower conecting rods 765 at nopi
JE pistons 11.0:1 375 at nopi
JE piston rings 135+3026 90 at nopi
unorthidox cam gear 220 at nopi
skunk 2 valves 320 at nopi
unorthodox pulleys 240 at nopi
short ram intake 150 at nopi
skunk 2 intake manifold 330 at nopi
headers 280 at nopi
ZEX 506 at nopi
STR Fuel Rail 100 at nopi
STR TB 370 at nopi
BM FPR 60 at nopi
clutchmasters clutch 425 at nopi
STR short shifter 90 at nopi

engine total cost
4350
shiping and taxes... 4650 USD


6500 canadian dollars

all these parts are from NOPIONLINE.com

if you know of anyother places where i could buy it all cheaper, lemme know.. and i will be definetly lookin at ebay.ca

how fast do you figure this setup will get me goin down the track with a set of slicks?

any opinions or sugestions are welcome

thanks
Travis

check out ebay for shure you can get some of that shit way cheeper than what they got ghoing. Like xcda headers and itnake and that kind of shit ... yu might beven be able to get some shit nice and cheped han that.

I thought you said you had a JDM B20 in that car.... :bs:

I do have a JDM B20 in it.. the only reason its not goin into the civic is because its not a conventional Bseries block... it bolts into teh accord, but regualr Bseries blocks need a Place Racing Kit...

lol.. i wouldnt lie about a freekin old ass honda accord.. its not lik eits special.. i scored the engine at Lucky Star in Toronto for 600 bucks cuz they got it by mistake...

if you would like, i could take a picture of my shitty accord to prove it to you

oh yah.. and with 4500 USD, can i do a B16 swap? into the civic?

thanks
Travis

Yes, I Actually would like to see a picture or 3...

Place Racing mounting kits suck from what I hear.

And for $4,500 USD you could almost have a GSR engine in a civic... or even a turbo B16.

i never said i have a place racing mount.. if i wanted a B16 i would have had to get a Place Racing kit.. anyway.. i think i have a pic of it out of the car.. and a pic of the car.. but ill get a whole engine bay snap tommorow

Travis

that whole set-up sounds like itz too expensive......didn't T.O.O. say it cost him about $3k to have his civic up to 500bhp:eek7:

but if i had the money i say turbo a b16.....u got speed and itzsomething quick to do....then i'd go back and build up the engine more

Originally posted by dxhatchback
i never said i have a place racing mount..

I never said you had place racing mounts.... I simply stated that I've heard that place racing kits suck... as to discourage your usage of them... I've heard HCP Engineering and HA Sport mounts are much better... for if you do decide to do a bseries swap into a Civic.

this is when i first brought it home... i might have a engine bay pic... ill have to dig around a bit

Travis

here... i hope this will shut you up.. lol

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid73/pa10df92f97a29ad76092e0cfd11761df/fb7304bb.jpg

this is the engine when i first got it... it was originally a FI engine

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid73/pc158b388b46aaa6a6ee859e7c182fe79/fb7304b8.jpg

here is the car as of 3 months ago

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/p8d0ca119570b220dc9aef1318289d351/fcf35e3a.jpg

next time be careful when you call bs.. it might just turn out like this!!

Travis

oh yah.. thanks for all the sugestions guys.. i was thinkin today that a low boost B16 would be best... and then after i start making some money, ill tear it down and build it for max boost...

Travis

photochopped :bs:

:iceslolan

:useless:

how the fuck do you photochop an engine dude!... ill try and find more engine pics... i know i have some direct ones...ill look some more

Travis

Originally posted by dxhatchback
here... i hope this will shut you up.. lol

next time be careful when you call bs.. it might just turn out like this!!

Travis

Haha.... nah... I call BS at the slightest little thing... ask anyone who's been in here a month or more.

When people get deffensive about stuff is the best time to get the truth out of them... but I'll let ya slide for now little man ;)

I personally say buy a Civic shell and use the Accord for parts if you plan to sell it for so little, it's worth more as parts then to be sold as a whole... think about it a lil' bit.

By the way.... I'm still doubtful about the whole deal.

:cwm27: some people are so easily offended....i really don't care about u proving squat :bigthumb:

Originally posted by BLU CIVIC
:cwm27: some people are so easily offended....i really don't care about u proving squat :bigthumb:

:werd:

like i said, the accord has a weird ass engine, other wise i would drop it into a DX civic with the carbs.. it would be easy as hell... but its all fucked up... nothing mounts the same... ill sell it in town, buy a civic or CRX and go B16... i really like the idea of all motor, but i guess the only way to go nowadays in Forced Induction.. and The Old One doesnt seem like he is gonna get the superchargers ready anytime soon.. so i think its gonna be turbo b16...

anyone have a quarter mile estimate on a low boost B16?? just an est.. like in the 12's.. yes i can drive... im actually pretty good.. so like will i get 12's out of a civic with a low boost B16 on slicks??

Travis

here is another engine pic.. i cleaned it all up with steam and some orange cleaner shit

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid73/p4a850927977f2db509fe0f647e1eb531/fb72f68e.jpg

Travis

going all motor is cool...but virtually a waste of money on sohc b/c u have more potential with dohc

B16 turbo it is...

is there a complete how to somewhere??? like a website for it? i found many ZC ones, but no B16 sites.. i want a list of EVERYTHING i need to buy...

and is there a turbo kit for the B16 and the 91 Civic's??

any info that you have pertaining to dropping a B16 turbo into a SI civic, lemme have it

thanks alot
Travis

even on a gutted crx you are not gonna get into the 12s with a low boost b16...

oh yah... what are my options with turboing a D16A6?? i wouldnt have to buy a B16, so the cash could go into beefing up the engine for more boost

Travis

so should i expect 14 seconds? ill be running a 55 shot of nitrous as well.. so that should help

Travis

i plan on gettin a z6...buildin it up and boosting that.....the d series motors ar fairly cheap but the price of b16's are falling and if i were u and since u have the money i'd jump on that b/c the aftermarket is so huge for it

itz 1:11 am and i'm off to:sleeping: :sleep:

now i'm probably just jumping to conclusions too, but i'm thinkin BS here.

one, why would you go from FI to carbed?and ifits for more power, why do you say your b20 doesn't put out enuf? b20's have torque AND hp, its a good engine.

you have a gutted interior, but a bumpin sound system?! what sense does that make?

on the two pics of the engine, the valve covers are different. on the first there is a scratch in the bottom left hand corner. in the second its not there, but there is a chip in the paint that isn't in the first.

also, how did the sides of the head and block go from black to a nice silver (rebuilt engine silver), and if the orange cleaner did that, why is the valve cover still dirty? and where did the cam pulley cover go?

the car pics have different rims in them, and unless i'm wrong, both are aftermarket, so why buy two different types?

and the side marker in the top pic is black where its yellow in the bottom.

i could list more, but i'm tired :) and i could be wrong, but thats just stuff that i saw...

1 i am using dual weber 45's.. my car was a carbed car from the start so insteadof rewiring the fuckin thing for FI, i went carbs
2. my subs come out with 3 conections, the amps are on the box so when i race, the subs come out
3. i dont know what to say about the chips but im guessing they happened in transport.. this engine was on a rubber tire for 3 months at the back of my garage.. see how the first pic has far less scratches? i guess it got banged a bit...
4. i didnt clean the valve cover cuz it had to be sand blasted before i painted it... i want gonna half ass it, so it was completly stripped and the cam gear cover was removed to clean behind it...
5. ahh.. the wheels... look at the first wheels, they are small... 15's to be exact... the second set is a set of 17's... these are my summer wheels.. the first set i got for 150 bucks at a flea market... they are winter wheels
6. the sidemarker is the result of home made CLEAR CORNERS... its a shitty camera on a shitty day.. it looks black, but its not.. i just cut the orange reflector off, and added some office light cover plastic...

i cant believe you think im BSing.. thats crazy.. if i was gonna BS, i would choose a way better car to BS about...

sorry.. no BS here

Travis

can we please talk about my B16 Civic?? i asked some q's about turbos and it never got answerd

thanks

if u want to know about turboing a b16....either do a search in here or in the Honda/Acura JDM Motor & Parts info/chat forum

Originally posted by Killa_CRX


Haha.... nah... I call BS at the slightest little thing... ask anyone who's been in here a month or more.

LOL - I call BS more often than you - and I'm staying out of this one... I've been owned by emil who posted film footage that shut me down - this time it is a "could be possible" :cool:

Originally posted by Jay eS Iye
b20's have torque AND hp

Well DUHHHHHHHHHH :biggrin2:

I'd say that's a given with the relationship between the two :thefinger

since a new one was made.

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