Best Sohc

i'm nearing the completion of the work i'm doing on my suspension and next year i'm going to working on my engine....so my question is what's the best sohc motor to go na and which one is the best to go fi:confused:

I seriously think you just go with the sohc v-tec . It doesn't matter if your goin FI or N/A. Its still a good choice. I would go turbo on that thing just to get it moving. You're not gonna get far on all motor.

IS THAT THE Y8

Yeah, 96 and up is the y8, and I believe 92-95 is the z6. I just picked up a y8 with tranny for $510. From what I hear they are good little motors to start with and have big potential.

Originally posted by BLU CIVIC
IS THAT THE Y8


That and the z6 homie.

WHICH ONE WOULD BE BETTER?? THE Y8 OR THE Z6

y8 has 2 more hp than the z6 ... but from what i have heard it is more difficult to put a y8 into an std/dx/lx than it is to put a z6 in.

What's wrong with NA? I've seen many NA cars rape turbo'd cars. Turbo is such a cop-out... jes' daing turbo that there lump billy-bob, much less work...

I got lots more respect for a fast NA car than a fast turbo car...

And you dont HAVE to go VTEC to have a fast all motor car. Let me not bring in the example of Bizi Ezerioha who is known as having the world's FASTEST and QUICKEST (two different things) all motor honda...

With a twin carbed D15...

oops, just used Bizi's name again...

Originally posted by D15Bitch
What's wrong with NA? I've seen many NA cars rape turbo'd cars. Turbo is such a cop-out... jes' daing turbo that there lump billy-bob, much less work...


Not many people can afford to make a car as fast NA as they could with FI, thats why. Its such a cop-out? Why because its easier to make HP with? Wow, people who do that are such cheaters, eh? Fuck, its just another method to make your car a lot faster without all the cost. NA is okay, but its a lot of fooking money.. If I had a couple Gs to drop it would be for FI. (supercharger)
Maybe like you don't like turbos because they often beat NA ass? (with similar money spent)


BLU - Go with the Z6, Y8 would probably be a lot of trouble to swap because its OBD2, I know some people swap the Z6 with their stock non-OBD A6 ECUs. They have to use a VTEC controller of some sort to activate the VTEC, but for the cost and effort the Z6 is a good little swap.
Get an Si trans. too. ;)

Well let me tell you, where I live (in South Africa), turbo conversions are way more expensive than NA tuning. Over here, NA is the cheaper alternative. Hence, most guys here opt for NA, cost wise... which is also maybe why in this country NA tuning has been refined to almost an artform... Also, most guys do their OWN NA tuning, but most guys do not do their own turbo conversions... that's what meant by cop-out: it's nice to be able to say: I've got a fast car, and I did it myself...

thanx siz....i went on www.hondaswap.com and say that the y8 was obd-2 and i don't want to have to go thru all that wiring....so i guess i'll be looking for an z6...

i thought about na b/c i would prefer it over a turbo but itz very costly here in the states...so i guess i'll just build up the internals and go with a turbo.....too bad T.O.O. has yet to come out with his supercharger:frown:

Originally posted by D15Bitch
What's wrong with NA? I've seen many NA cars rape turbo'd cars. Turbo is such a cop-out... jes' daing turbo that there lump billy-bob, much less work...

I got lots more respect for a fast NA car than a fast turbo car...

And you dont HAVE to go VTEC to have a fast all motor car. Let me not bring in the example of Bizi Ezerioha who is known as having the world's FASTEST and QUICKEST (two different things) all motor honda...

With a twin carbed D15...

oops, just used Bizi's name again...


Umm excuse me? I'm goin all out on all motor. I said goin NA on sohc is not worth it. Now for a b-series like ME is a different story. Sohc+all motor= not worth the money or the time. Dont bring up Bizi....bad example. THat guy spent ALOT OF MONEY! Its not an easy thing for him to be that fast. Just because he did it that doesn't mean everyone else can. So using him as an example is bad.

Originally posted by mellowboy
Dont bring up Bizi....bad example. THat guy spent ALOT OF MONEY!

Not to mention his car is probably like 1800lbs.. A stock D16A6 in a car setup just like his would probably run 14s.

Hey, If you want to go V-tec, I have a v-tec head from a z6 with a killer ZEX cam in it that I'll part with for relatively little. Then you could pick up a 1.6L non-vtec for less and prolly save some cash, plus get a cam in it. I also have a set of pistons for the same motor. I definitely agree that that is the way to go. There are an abundance of parts for that motor, and it's a great base for a solid running car... I wish I had gone that way instead of ZC....

yeah i'm going to be new to the whole engine thing b/c i've never done anything to an engine except research info....

Originally posted by SiZ


Not to mention his car is probably like 1800lbs.. A stock D16A6 in a car setup just like his would probably run 14s.


Yeh that shit is light. You know them first gen crx? Well they weigh about 1753 lbs! I wonder if i should go with that car and swap a gsr in that? That should hit 13s stock easily. Damn that sounds nice.



Blu Civic just get a whole z6 or y8 swap and dont do that v-tech head thing. It'll save some time and a lil bit of money. You can put a y8 motor in your car while using the obd1 ecu. Just need a obd2 to obd1 jumper harness.

I found this to be a little interesting from the 92+ Civic forum.... the whole thred is well worth reading too.

Originally posted by Rice-Rocketeer
D16Z6, D16Y8, D15B7: If you have one of the lower and cheaper civic models, IE The Cx, Dx, Lx and If you're looking for a cheap power increase while still maintaining stock gas mileage then the possibility of swapping in one of the higher model civic engines is right up your alley. The D16Z6 is the SOHC 5th Gen. Si and Ex engine pushing 125hp @ 6600 rpm and 106 lb.-ft of torque @ 5200 rpm. The D16Y8 is the 6th gen. SOHC Ex engine pushing 127hp @ 6600 rpm and 107 lb.-ft of torque @ 5500 rpm. These are extremely easy to find since allot ppl swap them out in favor for more expensive engines. They bolt in like stock and the whole package could be had for hundreds (You might even find someone who’s recently swapped who would basically give away their engine). Let's say you want something cheap but you could work on for possibly turbo or nitrous? The D16Y8 is cheap and the pistons are the exact size of TT Supra pistons. They could substitute for forged versions and work just as well for a turbo upgrade. Be warned though as the D16Y8 has a particularly bad Rod to Stroke ratio at 1.52. I also suggest the B15B7 which is the 5th gen. Dx and Lx engine pushing 102hp @ 5900 rpm and 98 lb.-ft of torque @ 5000 rpm. If you have a 5th gen. Cx and you’re in need of the cheapest upgrade, this motor could be for you. Again you could probably find it for less than $500.

Originally posted by mellowboy
Yeh that shit is light. You know them first gen crx? Well they weigh about 1753 lbs! I wonder if i should go with that car and swap a gsr in that? That should hit 13s stock easily. Damn that sounds nice.


You would EASILY run 13s with a GSR in a 1750lbs car.
Two of my friends who are brothers both had CRXs with 1st gen B16s, with S1 trannys. They both loved stripping the cars, so the one took everything out of his car (but he still drove it on the street), no wipers, no sway bars, no nothing.. Just a dash, pedals, and two seats.. He ran 13.7 with that car with an intake, a JDM header (2.5" collector), and slicks.
His bother wanted the same thing, but to another level.. So they took everything that didn't surround him out of the car.. There was 1 seat and the top part of the dash left.. They even cut the side support beams out of the doors! :eek7: The replaced the rear springs with exhaust piping so the car would be nice and stiff on a buget, all windows in Lexan.. And when he took the car to the track he ran 12.8 with a B16 with Intake, JDM header, and slicks..

I've seen it a bunch of times hanging out with them, and those guys totally made me realize that its not the motor, its the car that its in.
(keep in mind they're both very good drivers too though, drag racing imports for about 8 or more years now)

Yeh but u see i hate stripping out the interior. I regret stripping my rear interior cause the noise is just annoying. :tongue: