Bad Vibration

I have been having this vibration problem with my Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4x4 for quite some time now and can't seem to figure out the cause of this crazy shake. It has new ball joints, shock, steering stabalizer, the tires and rimes are all good and balenced. What happens is that I get this insane side to side body shake at around 90km and up. It will sometimes occure at 80km if I hit a large enough bump in the road.
I can't seem to figure out what is causing this insane shake but I have been driving around for the past 2 weeks not able to exceed 80km hr and am starting to get really frustrated.

Has anyone experienced this problem and know what the cause is? My steering is a little loose, could that be it?

PLease help I am starting to fear for my safety!!!
Scott

With the vehicle parked, try holding onto the tire and shaking the wheel. Use your whole body weight and see if there is any play in the wheel itself. There shouldn't be. But if there is it could be a tie-rod or wheel bearing.

i have the exact same problem with my 1990 jeep laredo. this is insane. ive had aligment done, balancing, axels check. what are you doing to yours? lets email each other at surrender8571@aol.com. thanks man.

Check you e-mail, I will let you know what happend with my find!

i have the exact same problem with my 1990 jeep laredo. this is insane. ive had aligment done, balancing, axels check. what are you doing to yours? lets email each other at surrender8571@aol.com. thanks man.

I had this problem, it was due to uneven tires. I had the truck aligned and got new tire, crazy shake gone.

BTW-sbrohman
I hate you SOOOOO Much!

Keep On Jeepin On

Thanks for the tip!
But I've already had the front end aligned, all 4 tires balanced 3 times, new shocks, steering stabalizer, ball joints, tie rod ends, steering box adjusted, and new traction bar. After all this the damn mechanics still have no answers for me, if it was a Chev it would have been figured out and fixed for half the cost that this headache has caused me.

I'm going to try and replace the main crank pully(dampaner) and see if that does anything, I've been told that this may fix it. If it doesn't I'll make sure to climb the highest peek your talking about and push the damn thing off!

CHEVY MAN
(no hard feelings buddy!)

I had this problem, it was due to uneven tires. I had the truck aligned and got new tire, crazy shake gone.

BTW-sbrohman
I hate you SOOOOO Much!

Keep On Jeepin On

God I Hate You sbrohman

Tire balance has nothing to do with uneven wear. I said my tires had UNEVEN WEAR! They were not unbalanced! READ THE FUCKING PRINT!
If you had all this replaced then I laugh at you, If its not alignment or uneven tire wear then it means you need the front skid plate to be put back on because it was prolly taken off a long time ago. The front skidplate acts as an air deflector that keeps air from causing turbulence in the front chassis. Jeeps with the offroading Package(or lifts) are a bit taller than base Jeeps. This added height exposes the chassis, driveline, and suspension components to catch too much air. This is a prob for most Jeeps because they have more ground clearance than most SUVs. The body normally covers these parts but with Jeeps without the Skidplate air gets to ram into everything in the front suspension.

Get rid of your Jeep already and go buy your fucking cavalier. Then go complain about it in the Chevy Forum.

Just
Engineerings
Every
Perfection

ouch!
You really need to stop masterbating over your Jeep and get some tale dude! It might help to get that atomic wedgy out of your ASS!

Get a life man!

:loser:

God I Hate You sbrohman

Tire balance has nothing to do with uneven wear. I said my tires had UNEVEN WEAR! They were not unbalanced! READ THE FUCKING PRINT!
If you had all this replaced then I laugh at you, If its not alignment or uneven tire wear then it means you need the front skid plate to be put back on because it was prolly taken off a long time ago. The front skidplate acts as an air deflector that keeps air from causing turbulence in the front chassis. Jeeps with the offroading Package(or lifts) are a bit taller than base Jeeps. This added height exposes the chassis, driveline, and suspension components to catch too much air. This is a prob for most Jeeps because they have more ground clearance than most SUVs. The body normally covers these parts but with Jeeps without the Skidplate air gets to ram into everything in the front suspension.

Get rid of your Jeep already and go buy your fucking cavalier. Then go complain about it in the Chevy Forum.

Just
Engineerings
Every
Perfection

Its funny how boys who have never been with a woman always say dumb shit like, "You need to get laid." or "sbrohman is the coolest dude in the world."

Have you sold your fucking Jeep yet?

sbrohman- I wish I could meet you. Then my foot could meet your ass.

:rofl: I have to say that I love my Jeep. Jeeps are not for everyone that is for sure. But here's the deal. Jeeps were first, and still the best. Everyone else is following. Now I know that there are plenty of capable suvs out there but they are just picking in a market that was started by and ruled by jeeps.

I don't know if anyone really cares or if anyone other than myself, Sbrohman, and Spooleffect even reads this forum anyway, but you two are the most entertaining people on here.

You two fight like ex lovers. Now I am almost sure that you big 4X4 suv type guys are not gay so why do you bi*&ch at each other so much?

:nono: Sbrohman if you want to drive a chevy go ahead. its your choice to make. However, you may want to post your chevy problems in the chevy forum. I think all of your Jeep suggestions and constructive critisms are more than welcome here. If you want to bash Jeeps make sure you have something better than a chevy to do it with.

:smokin: Spooleffect you take a horse to water but you can't make it drink. We can only show Sbrohman the way of Jeeps but we can make him drive one. He has the choice to drive what ever he wants. If his choice is a Chevy it is his to make. Not a good choice but still his to make.

My jeep is not fancy nor does it have any options like power windows/locks etc. But it is the best auto I have ever had. I am so impressed with it that I am planning on buying another one when/if this one dies. I have been saying that for about 80 000 miles now and I am not sure if I will ever get around to buying another one because my JEEP keeps on JEEPIN!

Sbrohman

:iceslolan If you jeep is that bad r u interested in selling it cheap? If so let me know. I may be interested in the purchase. I want a second jeep. Let me know.

:2cents:

Hey rmousir! Where you been at man?

I wasn't arguing, I tried to tell him how to fix the prob but all he had to say was all Jeeps suck and all Chryslers suck. So that got me to the point wheres I just hate the mofo.

Like I said earlier, sbrohman, "Get rid of your Jeep already and go buy your fucking cavalier. Then go complain about it in the Chevy Forum."

spooleffect

I have just been working. I am sure u know how it is. I work at a bank so I am online all of time and I check out this forum every now and then. I whish there was more activity on this forum but what can you do.
I am also resto/modding a '66 ford mustang so I surf some ford forums in my spare work time as well.

Hey has anyone out there ever tinted there windows on there jeep on there own. I think I am going to do that in a couple of weeks. I think I can get it done. :grinno: :icon16:

Id be easy to tint windows on a Jeep, Real Easy. The windows are all very square and have a simple shape so the tint would be easy to cut out and apply.

Yeah the Jeep forum here is pretty slow. Just a few Jeep Fanatics in here.

66 Stang Huh? Cool, what color, eng, tranny, and other mods you plan on doing. Stangs are easy to work with because they have a HUGE aftermarket and restoration market. Parts are way easy to find.

yeah! it is not bad. right now it has a six but I don't know for how long. LOL. imay just putm up the six and go from there. The color is red now but the original is called 'silver frost' and it will go back to that. I have found some really cool stuff for the car. when I am done it will have a really good retro look to it but still somewhat modern. Right now i am saving for a mig so i can cut out the cancer and replace it with some solid steel. then the rest of the body. My goal is to have it ready for paint by next summer. we shall see. then the motor and interior. then CRUZ!

Hi Guys

Sorry to hear the forum is slow. I'll be popping in now and then to help (electrical work is my strong subject :) ) However I'm also a moderator on another Jeep forum.

Later :D
-Nick

Well Fella's it looks like you've been busy in my absence, I'm sorry to hear that you've moved onto Ford's (Found On Road Dead) from Jeep's (Cheep) oh well, bad taste is bad taste!
:evillol:

I am happy to say that 4 days after I fixed the horrible vibration problem my rad exploded! I am now up to $2500 in repairs, in less then 6 months. Does this 'Cheep' crap ever end and actually run smoothly for more then a week? Seriously you guys can't possibly praise these things after all the shit I've gone through with mine! I admit that I like the tough look of my Cherokee, but the mechanics are shit.

I can post a pic if your interested in purchasing it, but I'd have to get a pretty penny for it after all the new parts I've put in it only to have something else break down a week later! :banghead:

Anyway, I hope I've done the job of getting you Cheep Geeks all wound up!

See you at the junk yard searching for more 'Cheep' parts!
:tongue:

Why are you still here sbrohman? You dont know shit about Jeeps so just STFU and get a fucking GM all ready.

sbrohman I have to admit I missed you and your crazy talk. I am starting to think that you are one of those completely negative people that wouldn't know a good thing if it came up and smacked you in the face.

Sure I would agree that if a jeep is abused or mistreated that it will need repair. If you rad all of a sudden goes (which more than likely means that you never washed your jeep and sprayed out your rad) you will have to replace that, but tell me what vehicle doesn't.

I was also thinking that you probably don't do a lot of preventative work on your jeep do you? Do you expect it to take care of it self. This is a automobile you know. Just a machine. It is much better than most and bested by very, very few.

Now I also wanted to ask who your does your repairs. If you are one of the people who are out there that talk big but don't know what a philips screw driver is than you deserve to spend big $$ on repairs. But if you do the repairs your self then you should know what is going to go and when it needs to be fixed before it costs you big $$$. If so, then that is your fault.

Now I know people who spend $2500 on wheels just to look good. They don't consider that to be a lot of money. I think it is a big chuck of cash so I have a couple of suggestions:

1- Learn how to do your repairs your self and do some preventive maintenance.

2- Don't bitch and complain to us when your jeep sucks. It is not our fault. I am willing to help you out but you have to help your self. Start by taking care of your jeep. maybe something simple like checking the air in your tires and if you are up for it an oil change every month. That would be a good start.

3- STOP buying your parts at the wreckers! In many cases you get what you pay for. Don't be so cheap. Go to Autozone. They will at least give you a warranty. If you go to a "BETTER" suv and tried to go to the wreckers for say a Toyota get ready to pay. and then get ready for some crappy stuff.

4- I hate to say this because it is entertaining but, stop trying to piss spooleffect off. He loves his jeep and you can stand yours. It is great to read everything you two write but it doesn't get you any closer to making friends in the Jeep word.

5- Sell it and move on. Give that Jeep to some one who will take care of it.

I know that this is a big list but I think you can handle it. Jeeps are tough and everyone knows it. That is why the SUV market exploded. Good luck

PS. My mustang is a classic and icon in the American car world. There are very few cars in the world that carry as much history and class as that car. With that said if you don't like it that is fine. Find something you do like and then you may be happy. "Each to there own" Just don't try to piss on everyone else's parade. It makes you look like a whiney bratt.

Good luck to you and I hope that you find a vehicle that works for you.

4- I hate to say this because it is entertaining but, stop trying to piss spooleffect off. He loves his jeep and you can stand yours. It is great to read everything you two write but it doesn't get you any closer to making friends in the Jeep world.


LMAO........ Is it that fun to read?

I have a 2000 xj with the same problem. My vibrations are from 47 to 53 mph. It does it in all the gears. So it is not the driveshaft, because the driveshaft spins at different rpms in different gears. What fixed your vibes sbrohman?

Read all the posts. The answer is in there somewhere.

I read the message I didn't see the final solution. I am having the problem also around 50mph when I am breaking. Has anyone found the solution?

Cheers

Its just old bushings and joints that have excess play in them. Most likely from the tie-rod. Since Jeeps are pretty light, the vibration in more notacible than in a heavier vehicle with the same suspension.

Thanks

I read the message I didn't see the final solution. I am having the problem also around 50mph when I am breaking. Has anyone found the solution?

Cheers


If it only happens when you break then get a new set of front rotors or have the current ones cut.

Good Luck
Chris

I have a 2000 xj with the same problem. My vibrations are from 47 to 53 mph. It does it in all the gears. So it is not the driveshaft, because the driveshaft spins at different rpms in different gears. What fixed your vibes sbrohman?


Whell your drive shafts are connected to the axle's which are connected to the wheels. They spin the same no matter what gears your in!....Your drive shaft or u-joints can cause a bump shimmy steering problem , don't count them out....

Chris

I would tell sbrohman where to look for this vibration but I think I'll let him sell the Jeep and drive the Chevy. I had a vibration in my 96 Cherokee that was a tough one to find. It only occurred in 4th and 5th gears @ highway speeds above 45mph. I'll tell spooleffect if he's interested to know. Just e-mail me privately and I'll tell ya.

Hey Spooleffect...
Chillout! Obviously he's trying to learn by asking these questions! I know damn well that you didn't learn everything the day you bought you'r Cherokee! Don't scare him into getting rid of a great vehicle just because of a little hiccup!

I had major vibes (called deathwobble) in my front end after I lifted my 92 4.5" and threw on 31's.

I tried 3 times at 3 different tire places to cure it and finally at the third shop, the guy that did the alignment knew EXACTLY what i was talking about! whoohooo! He said that with the solid axle in the front, and control arms, you can't align the toe exactly to zero degrees. when he aligns jeeps (with or without a lift) with coils in the front, he gives the toe about a 1.5* toe-in and sometimes up to 3*.

tire-to-road friction will create drag and actually toe-out you'r front tires. When you hit a bump, you'r tires will fight to get back to a natural straight line (thus...deathwobble). with a small toe in, and drag, the tires will naturally find the straight line and not cause DW.

I have had almost 30,000 miles and NO deathwobble since!

Give it a shot and see what happens next time you have it aligned. Most shops will even give a free 90 day re-alignment if you have problems with the first alignment.

Good luck!

get you driveshafts checked and if need be balanced

get you driveshafts checked and if need be balanced

Thanks for the help and advice. This one was a head scratcher.

It seems as though the yoke which holds the universal in centered position, has little tangs on it to keep the shaft centered. One of those little tangs broke off allowing the universal to slip off of the centered position causing the catty wumpus rotation of the driveshaft. Just like an unbalanced laundry load, it made a lot of noise and vibration. I had to buy a new yoke and this solved the pesky problem.

Hey sbrohman, you might want to check your u-joints, I've got 4 new tires, all new front end parts, good alignment and when I get over 45MPH it shakes like crazy. The 2 u-joints in the rear drive line are new, I think it's that big "cardan" u- joint in the front drive line that's causing the shake. I'll replace them both maybe this weekend and find out. You are not alone.


By the way I used to have a 2" lift kit on my XJ and it rode way too rough and was noisy at highway speeds and gas mileage suffered on long trips. It can cause some negative, unexpected side effects, like ol' spooleffect said.

Have you checked your steering damper,, looks like a shock absorber attatched to your front steering componenets? It helps stiffen and stabilize your steering and helps keep it from shaking after hitting bumps.