323CI to M3 conversion??????

Is it possible to convert a 323ci to a M3??????? I know the body is definitly possible to do, but what about an engine swap. Will an m3 engine fit? and will suspension ...etc need to be changed? just want some imput. How much is a M3 engine anyways used or new if this is possible?????????

Save yourself the cost and complications, sell your 323 and buy an M3

i totally agree, just buy an M3. . .

Wonder how much work it would take to convert MY car to an E46 M3?

since you most likely have an E36, i would tell you to just buy an E46 m3 as well. . .:biggrin:

Nope E30. Actually all i really want is VANOS. Or maybe even Vtec.

I found this link when I was looking to solve my cruise control problem... This guy turned a 318 into a M3, he makes it sound to easy...yaknowhatimsayin b ut some people llike a challange :pimp:

http://www.geocities.com/elibeemer/M_conversion.html

sorry, should have known it was an E30, i missed the "conv" at the end of your car description. . .

It would be a lot easier and a lot cheaper to just buy an M3.

hows about turbo, eh.

Ohhhhh my gosh. Do NOT mess with the BMWs like that. These cars are highly controlled by so many sensors and computers that your car will be going crazy if you do something like that. I totally agree with the others...sell your car and buy an M3. Although...I have to say > an M3 isn't what its worked up to be :wink:

An M3 isnt what its made out to be? Please do tell why....

B/c the car is heavy and the horsepower isn't enough. Yes it is a fast car, but I guess its just because Im used to a Porsche thats much lighter in weight.

and what porsche would that be? i thought your car was a 323...

I have a 2000 Porsche Boxster "S", 2000 BMW 323CI, and a 2001 Ferrari 360 Spider.

a boxster S eh? strange then, that the M3 has a higher power to weight ratio than the boxster S... :rolleyes:

any chance of pics of your cars? maybe next to eachother?

Originally posted by BMWcruzer
I have a 2000 Porsche Boxster "S", 2000 BMW 323CI, and a 2001 Ferrari 360 Spider.



I really want to see your cars. I want to see the Ferrari. I want pics of you in it and the motor. Thanks.:smile:

Drive a Boxster "S" and an M3...see which one you think feels faster...make sure both are manuals!!

I don't care how fast they are. I want to see pics of your cars.

Tell me how to send the pics and wabamb! where in business!! :smile:

oh man what the hell is that smell, does any one else smell something?

Originally posted by BMWcruzer
Tell me how to send the pics and wabamb! where in business!! :smile:



Check your pm

Yea I think I can smell something too. Maybe dumbass high-schoolers, right? Haha...thats what I thought, but hey - Im always right.:loser: :thefinger

Sorry – cant resist.. someone who’s been to high school knows it’s “we’re in business” and not “where in business”

Still, I feel its wrong to discredit you before giving you the chance to prove the doubters wrong… so let’s see the pics :smile:

Well it sure is easy to tell the jeallous people in here...they just won't leave you alone. SO BEWARD FOLKS >> Have proof of anything in this chat, for you have to prove everything. I'm sure most guys in here are used to proving their d*** sizes to each other, so beware on that too! :loser:

Hey man, where are those pics? You haven't replied to my pm, and you haven't sent me any pics, I want to see pics.:smile:

Originally posted by buymeabmwm3
Nope E30. Actually all i really want is VANOS. Or maybe even Vtec.

:iagree: :iceslolan
Music to my ears.

But seriously, whats up wit the pics? Lets see all three pls.

Here's my other car
http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/i/aic/b/03/vanquis1.jpg

:rolleyes:

[img]desktop/cars/rear.jpg[img]

Ok...I don't know how to put a picture in here...tell me how.

Can't figure the picture thing out, SOO Ok...I confess, I drive a bicycle and live in a double wide. Yep...thats me. :loser:

['b]this is html code[/b'] minus the apostrophes.

to post pics from your PC, go to the "Attach file" box at the bottom of the screen that you post from, hit browse, the rest should be self explanatory.

Originally posted by BMWcruzer
Well it sure is easy to tell the jeallous people in here...they just won't leave you alone. SO BEWARD FOLKS >> Have proof of anything in this chat, for you have to prove everything. I'm sure most guys in here are used to proving their d*** sizes to each other, so beware on that too! :loser:

Hehe.. believe me pal im not jealous.. just the son of a Fortune500 company not knowing the expression “we’re in business” makes me laugh..
when people make, shall we say, remarkable claims, like they own a bmw, a Ferrari 360, and a Boxster S, at the tender age of 19, it can be difficult to believe… like I said we get a lot of bull-shitters here. I asked you to send me a pic, one single pic of all three cars next to each other, and I would not only believe you but actually feel bad for having doubted you. But what do you do? You send me a pic of two Ferrari’s and a big house from afar… :rolleyes: hmm… those could belong to anybody and you know what, im beginning to smell something too… here’s what I don’t get:
* you want to convert a 323ci to an M3 – my problems with this are twofold:
1 you don’t rate the M3 (your words “its not what its worked up to be”)… so why do you want one? And:
2 if you want an M3 why don’t you just buy one? You tell me your family owns such and such company so why do you want to transform your 323 into an M3 instead of just buying one… you’re inquiring about the cost of an M3 engine so cost is clearly an issue… doesn’t sound like someone who has millions at his disposal, dontcha think?

And finally, about the dick size thing, im sorry, this isn’t that sort of forum… if youre looking for stuff like that I suggest you go somewhere else :gay:

Something inside me still wants to believe you, after all your attitude and inability to spell do make you sound like a rich, dependent, daddy’s boy so im willing to let you prove your claim.

One pic, of your three cars, in the same shot

Owned! :slap: The sad thing is, it always takes so much text to refute the ridiculous claims made in this forum.

i dont think there is too much of that around here, most of the posts are here is a problem i am having, how do i fix it or, what do you other enthusiasts think of this.

i dont find too many i got this, and i'm gonna stick it in your face when they really dont have shiznit. . .

ONE>>>I don't want to covert any 323CI to an M3, so what the hell is that? I never said shit about converting anything to an M3. I was replying to someone who asked about converting one to an M3...and my reply was --- Dont waist your time, its not what its worked up to be (B/c I already have a 2001 M3 coupe). Then YOU jump in like your the boss around here and start emailing. What I really think is I've got under your skin and you CANT STAND to think that someone as myself could have a car such as a Ferrari/Porsche/BMW...I'm not arguing back and forth between you or this fuked up forum and frankly...I don't feel like I have to prove shit to you. If I had my guess...I would say your just a pathetic low-life who is SOOOO jeallous of other people, you just sit around waiting to reply and start in on someone. And too, your probably not even old enough to own a car...and the kind of kid in school people like me harass and make fun of > so eat shit fag. Looser:loser:

:rolleyes: Sure.

May I ask a question to you, oh god of the web board? I'll assume with humble precaution that permission is granted.

1) What is it that you/your daddy does that you have enough money to purchase such vehicles? I am curious. Most adults (note I said MOST) with that kind of money are too busy to be on the internet arguing about what sits in their driveways.
***I also find it interesting that if you are an adult, that you have not yet learned how to spell***

2) Why did you not list a 2001 M3 coupe before when you were telling us what kind of cars you have? Did you sell it/trade in/end of lease and got a regular 3 series?

3) If you do not feel the need to prove yourself to members of these forums, then why did you send pics of two ferraris to Crazyjay? And why would you care to know how to attach pictures to your posts if you had no intentions of posting pics of your cars (or someone else's:rolleyes: )

I apologize oh great one, I realized what a great transgression I have performed in asking more than my one alloted question. Please do not smite me. :worshippy

It's dad, not daddy. I am 19...and no I do not work. My dad, his 3 brothers and granddad own a large corporation. I have already graduated school...and you've got that right...I do mess up spelling sometimes (OMG! is that a crime). Why didn't I mention an M3? Well...didn't think about it. When I turned 16 I got a lot of cars...loving cars runs in the family. When I was 16 I bought: 2000 BMW 323CI Sport, 2001 BMW M3, 2001 Ferrari 360, 2000 Porsche Boxster "S". When my brother turned 16...he bought a Ferrari 360 Coupe, 2002 Cadillac Escalade, and 2002 GMC Z71. My dad has a 2002 Aston Martin Vanquish, 2002 Ferrari 360 (Black/tan), 2000 Aston Martin Vantage, and he drives a black Jaguar S-Type regularly. The others...he collects. My mother drives a Jaguar XK8 Coupe. I could go on to the entire extended family but the list would never end. The reason I can reply so quickly is b/c I don't work...but, most people do - so I guess you guys are not working either.

BMWcruzer I call massive BS on you.
1) First, after doing some research I have found that you have owned, besides your 2000 323Ci, a 91 BMW 850Csi http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6136, which by the way only 250 were ever officially imported to the USA and are extremely rare, a Porshe Boxster S http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=81008&perpage=15&pagenumber=3, 2000 BMW M3 http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88691&perpage=15&pagenumber=2, 2001 Ferrari 360 spider http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88691&perpage=15&pagenumber=2, an Infinity GS300 http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=96170&perpage=15&pagenumber=2, and even, for some reason an oddball Caddy Catera http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=92212.
That is a total of 7 cars owned by you before you were 19 years old. That would be an average of 2 cars per year, and very expensive cars to boot.

2) You said you have owned two BMW's here http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=107136&perpage=15&pagenumber=5, but by my count you have owned an 850csi, an M3, and your 323Ci. Thats three. So what is it?
On a related note, one post says your M3 is a 2000, and another says it is a 2001? What gives?


3) In you're post http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=125007, you list a bunch of car-cleaning products you have used on your car. While I don't doubt you actually did buy these, I find it hard to believe that someone who is rich enough to have owned 7 exotic and luxury cars in three years. Not to mention that you said you put plastic floormats in your BMW. Yeah, every rockstar I know has those.

Here's what I think. I think you own that 2000 323Ci, but thats it. Based on the fact that in every one of your posts you include something about how you have this BMW. Owning exotics like a 360 spider and 850csi, I would think you would also rant about them, not just a lowly bottom of the rung 323. And I would think you would be happy and proud to show pics of your cars, or tell of some other proof, if you actually owned them, instead of getting all defensive and telling people to eat sh*t fags like a damn teenager. And whats with signing up on 8/11 to Automotive Forums and posting 26 times in two days. Shouldn't you be out doing things that rich people do, not arguing or boasting on the internet all day?
Rappers, moviestars, and NBA players don't even have as many cars as your family apprently has. I doubt that a CEO family has this much money to throw around heedlessly.
So, in the end, I repeat what the others has stated. Post pics of you in front of your cars, and we will all eat crow till our heads turn blue. Until then, I am hoisting the flag
:aus: O wait, not that one. :bs:

You guys are hilarious...nope didn't mention the G20 (black/black)/Catera (tan/ivory)/850 (white/gray)/etc...b/c they were bought at auction (and there really not worth talking about...except the 850, now that is a fair car even though its old). Yep! Thats where I buy most all of them at auctions...cheaper. I bought the G20 for $9,000.00 the Catera for $11,000, but the 850 ran for about $17,500 (b/c it is so rare with the V12)...my dad has a dealers license and so...can go to all the highline auctions > and yep...thats how I have so many cars. One more I forgot to mention to you guys who love hearing this...the Lincoln Blackwood truck...that one slipped my mind. Its black on black. Nice...only ran about $26k at the auction. OHHHHHH wait 2 more...I bought 2 Mitsubhishi Eclipses, one GS and one GST...I got a package deal on those two for $11,000 for both. The GS is Red, and the GST is white. I think I have two dumbasses interested in the Eclipses...so they may be gone. Its a fun hobby! And too...the cars role in all the time.:biggrin:

Another thing....the 323CI is a very good car. And as far as cleaning supplies...Yes, I clean everyone of the cars I plan on keeping a while b/c detailers are lazy and don't take care of them like they should. And too...most of them run the cars through a carwash then vacumm/deatail them aftarwards. Not good at all. You guys can believe what you want to...YES I have made a lot of different post b/c I've had a lot of ENTIRELY different cars. My dad has the dealers license b/c he and I enjoy going to the autions in the spare time he has away from work. Honestly I really can't count the number of cars we've had...he/I buys about 2 a month...might keep one...might move it to a dealership?

Im glad you looked me up...you can see I know a lot about cars. Also...I was wondering / whats your name? I would like to give you a call if your not scared...I wan't to find out why anyone would call massive BS on me when they don't even know me. Hmmm? If you really want to show your an adult and not afraid...whats your phone number? I don't think you know who your talking to...you have NO IDEA what I'm capable of. :comprage1 :sunglasse

Cruzer, I haven't insulted you or anything, yet you feel compelled to call us all fags and threaten me with menacing phone calls. I have nothing to hide, but I'm not giving personal information out over the internet. I would hope that as a mature adult you would understand why. Afterall, it IS just a forum. I rarely take anything all that seriously, and don't know why some poeple get all worked up.
I simpy don't understand why someone, who says he gets all these cool cars, is so defensive. You could prove us all wrong in one fell swoop by posting a pic of your cars. You don't even have to be standing in the picture if you don't want your identity out over the net. Just take a pic of your cars, and put your hand in the picture giving us all the finger. After all, that is what we would deserve if we had falsely accused you of BS.
Until then though, I have lashed myself to my mast :bs:

It may not all be BS, but something ain't right.
Either you aren't really 19, you haven't purchased those cars with your own money but your dad's, or you never owned those 7 cars (i.e. held a title with your own name printed on it). Why would you keep the 323ci, and not even get a 330? Better yet, why be BMWcruzer and not Ferraricruzer? All your other cars are far superior to your 323, so why so loyal to it? Something just does not jive.

Nope...I didn't purchase the cars with my own money. To get technical none of them are in "my" name. One b/c I'm 19, Two - what insurance company will insure a 19 yr old in a Farrari -- NONE. Why so loyal to the 323CI as my listed car? Well...frankly b/c of BS like this. With listing the 323CI...I feel I can chat in ANY room and not seem out of place in say a Honda Chat...yet in the same respects...feel in place in high-line chat. The 323CI...as any other BMW...are all outstanding cars. And too, I feel I can drive it regularly and not have a constant worry "Is bugs chipping the paint...is it going to rain...can I park here without someone dinging my doors?" You can't drive a Ferrari just anywhere...I've never driven mine in rain...and never will. I admit I'm not the smartest person out there...I don't know how to put picturs in this forum, I can't figure out how. I AM 19...soon to be 20...graduated High School 1.5 years ago, and AM NOT in college and no work. WHY? Well...b/c no one in my entire family works except my dad/uncles/and granddad...and I see no incentive to work. I do however, donate my time to helping others...which to me, is a lot more full-filling than punching a clock 9-5.

You can't just swagger in here, brag about owning hundreds upon thousands of dollars of cars, and not expect people to be a little skeptical.

Heello! I wasn't bragging...someone along the way asked me what I drove and I posted it. Since then...you guys got off on the subject and haven't let it down. I don't think I'm one bit better than anybody...and if you drove a hunk-a-junk VW...I would still think of you the same as if you drove a Lambo. :rolleyes:

So your DAD bought all those cars. I thought so. So don't go around saying how you bought and owned all these cars. Its daddy's money and they are daddy's cars. You didn't buy the BMW, the boxster, and the ferrari as you said earlier in this thread. Your dad lets you drive his cars. Thats completely different.
I am proud of my car because I worked hard to pay for it with my own money. I wouldn't try to impress people with stuff that isn't mine.

Yes you do brag. Almost every one of your other posts since you became a member has been bragging about the cars you have owned. I would put links to them, and how you MSRP each on, but I'm tired now.

Well Im glad your tired. And those few cars are mine...givin to me as a gift. Just like most parents buy their kids cars when they turn 16 - no different. I'm glad you work hard for your car (whatever that my be). No more replys on this stupid stupid stupid subject. :bloated:

thats for sure, especially when most of us have been here for awhile and it seems that you just signed up this month. . .

you can easily upload some pictures to some website and the tell is where to find them. if you want ill even go and find somewhere you can do this and give you all the ftp information, as well as step by step instructions on how to do it, after all i like my 9-5 job, and enjoy helping people understand how to use a computer. . . this is after all what lets me own my E30. . .

im just saying this because i love cars, and would love to see some nice pics of an E46 M3 and any ferrari. . .

Originally posted by BMWcruzer
> so eat shit fag. Looser:loser:

Ive banned people for a lot less. Give me a reason why i shouldnt increase my tally.

Like ive said. One pic, of all those cars, next to eachother, and ill eat humble pie. Im assuming with all those cars you could afford a digital camera right? :lol:

:banhim: :twak:

:iagree:

hello?

Give it up, Imports R Fun, youre the same jackass as bmwcruzer. I caught you type “eat chit fag” again - your inability to spell lets you down big-time - and then edit it to the above “hello?”

oh! and now your car is a mitsubishi. I suppose you were gonna pretend to be a friend of bmwcruzer’s and confirm his story? Who cares, youre one and the same idiot, and you’re banned baby! Hasta la vista

haha that is funny, you nailed everything he was gonna do. did you ban both his s/n's?

how did you get to become a moderator?

The mods are all-knowing. Don't try to talk bad about them away from your computer. They can hear you.:wink:

To become a mod, I heard you must strip down to your shorts, drop to your belly and crawl 67miles up a treacherous path to Igor's garage atop Mount Importacus.

Well...to become a Moderator, first you can't have a life. You have to devote your lazy fat self to sit in front of a computer days on end. Next, you have to be willing to take a job that your ashamed of. And YES, he did ban BOTH my names...but what he doesn't know is that I've already been signed up MONTHS before the re-signing the other day...sooo I'm always watching don't forget that! HAHA...go ahead and ban this name too, b/c if you don't I will. As far as you know...I may just be the other guy replying on BMWcruzer or 00Accord...HMMMM?? OR I MIGHT BE THE MODERATOR!!! Hasta lluego baby. :flipa:

This is very entertaining !!!!! Call'em like you see em! :worshippy
This reply is intended for all truthful people on this forum.. not the loser that claims he has exoctics and cant justify.