where to work to afford a murcielago?

Hey can anyone help me out here and point me in the right direction to be able to afford a murcielago and money for aftermarket parts too? and maybe eventually have a small "fleet" (3) of vehicles (suv/h2, luxury car, exotic)? I'd really like to own 1 of these in the future along w/ a few others, but where to work? If anyone can help me out in anyway, I'd really appreciate it and thank you in advance!

What are your skills? Hard to recommend a job when I don't know what you do.

I HAVE THE SAME DREAMS AS YOU (IM 16 YRS OLD)

THE FOLLOWING JOBS OFFER HIGH SALARIES ALMOST ALWAYS, ITS JUST GETTING THE JOB THATS THE HARD PART LOL

-professional athlete
-professional and famous musician
-actor/actress (popular and famous)
-entrepreneur (own ur own business and be successful)
-invent something unique (electricity, the "car" lol)
-work at mcdonalds and gamble your life away and hope for the best j/k
-WIN THE LOTTERY

Good Luck! Hope you get ur rides u want!

Work for yourself. ie have your own business

Not that it matters, a few weeks ago I saw a middle class man auction a murcielago on ebay which he won from some drawing. He sold it cuz he couldnt afford the insurance (wonder how much that is) and needed the money for his kids' college funds. He auctioned it for around $100,000 (:confused:) i think cuz he didnt know what the car was or its value

I think the idea behind owning a high priced super car is that if you have a job you can't afford it unless its a top executive job. People with 30-50K salaries usually can't afford cars that cost as much as some houses.

Generally if you have to ask how much a Murcailego sells for you probably can't afford it. Buying it is one thing, maintenance is another whole new expense. Insurance would be sky high, probably around 10K just to register it, and 5K+ repair bills for only the minor things. Oh yeah I heard tune ups cost over $5000 too.

Supercars seem to be more of a status symbol because of their extreme cost to purchase and operate then for use as actual transportation.

status symbol they may be, but if i earned 80k a year, i'd have no qualms with plowing 25k of that straight in to a murcielago, and i would use it for everything!! Down the shops? Lambo it is, McD's drive through, Lambo it is, :biggrin: you get the idea!

your question was already postet some time ago.

you could use the search function.

i´ll look later. maybe i find it for you!

status symbol they may be, but if i earned 80k a year, i'd have no qualms with plowing 25k of that straight in to a murcielago, and i would use it for everything!! Down the shops? Lambo it is, McD's drive through, Lambo it is, :biggrin: you get the idea!
No offense man, but if you made 80k a year you would not own a murci. and if you did, there would be no way that you could drive it everyday (unless somehow your parents still let you live with them without charging you rent)
lets see here....
assuming you meant 80k after taxation takes they're share...

80k - 10k (insurance) = 70k
70k - 5k (normal maintenance) = 65k
65k - 5k (estimate on annual gas bill) = 60k
60k - 20k (downpayment) = 40k
40k - 4.5k/month (60 month lease term)

all this adds up to you being broke before having any kind of spending money for food and fun. *

basically you better shoot for a 200k/yr slaray or dont even bother with a murci.

if you want an older lambo on the other hand they can be as cheap as 100k.

*all prices have no reall background. they are estimates that i came up with. real figures would be much different, probably more.

Argh, enough of these threads already.

Peopel from near and far have asked this question at least a dozen times, and really there is no answer, nor would anybody be qualified to answer such a question. Yes their are owners on here, and yes they probably make a lot fo money, but asking them what they did won't help you.

There is no set job that guarantees the purchase of an exotic or concrete salary levels that define wether or not you could financially own one. There are however jobs that can permit the purchase of such cars and there is a minimum rung on the Corporate ladder that is the admission to ownership.

Anybody who really had any intention of owning such a fine machine woudl nto ask such a question. Call me arrogant or whatever you will, but honestly, nobody is going to hire you at whatever level for whatever position because you are determined to own a fast car. You need many things, skills, common sense, intelligence, determination and even luck. If you have one of these, great. If you have all of them then you shoudl be on your way.

if you took nothing fromt hat last bit, know this. if you really want to be well off enough to own a Murci, make it the last thought in your head. Sure we love them but the love of a car is not enough to compel someone to become a CEO or President. You need to do whatever you can maximizing all of your resources to become a money making machine, forget you life, forget your family, you will need to become your job. You may regret it later on, maybe not, it isn't the best advice, but seriously people you cannot expect the answers to these questions to be found in these forums awaiting, you need to take the intiative, find out what makes money and do it a lot.

Another bit of what I've seen so far, it takes a long time, a lot of hard work and patience. I've yet to see a Murcielago owner who hasen't given any one of those for the life they enjoy now.

Hey can anyone help me out here and point me in the right direction to be able to afford a murcielago and money for aftermarket parts too? and maybe eventually have a small "fleet" (3) of vehicles (suv/h2, luxury car, exotic)? I'd really like to own 1 of these in the future along w/ a few others, but where to work? If anyone can help me out in anyway, I'd really appreciate it and thank you in advance!


I'm 17, I was asking the same question. Through reseach, and others's opinions I came to a conclusion..


YOU DON'T HAVE A JOB!

You are your OWN boss

or

Negitive Gearing. It works.

Think about it.

This is a topic I have spoken about from time to time in my life. I will speak without my usual filter. Meaning, I usually don’t talk about my money. But since we are speaking about the topic of building wealth I will break that rule. To speak about money is uncomfortable because to do so I must unabashedly speak about myself and my success. So if this comes off as egotistical, well, that is the danger of speaking about ones self.

Oh, and remember, this is all just my opinion.


Why I Am Speaking About This:
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I like young people, (no weirdo comments please). I employ many young people. I am a 38 year old young person myself. Young people have the energy and enthusiasm that is a necessary component of fueling a successful start-up business. There are a dozen or so of them who I have made millionaires. Or maybe I should say there are a dozen or so who have made me wealthy. This forum is made up of young dreamers as much as anything else. I am a dreamer and I owe my financial success in life to young dreamers.

What Are My Qualifications To Speak About This?
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Most people would call me rich. That’s funny to me because in the world of the super rich I'm not even a blip on the radar. (There is ALWAYS richer - that is one of the lessons, but I digress) Just so you can put it in perspective... I can crash Murcielagos without thinking about it. I can crash yachts but it hurts. I can’t afford to crash jets. My dad was a teacher so I never had money growing up. I dropped out of college after two years. I have built more than one successful company from the ground up. (I got married three years ago)

So Enough With Chit Chat; What's The Secret Formula?
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Not so quick. Before I empower you all to make millions and ruin your life in the process... I have a few things to say first:

Before you attempt to become rich get your priorities straight.
Ask yourself this question:

You are walking along a secluded beach and find a magic lamp (a very old bottle). Upon opening the lamp up a genie comes out and offers up this proposition...
"Behold I am the great and mighty god Alicomba. You have freed me from a thousand years in captivity. I will reward you for your deed. I have two great gifts to offer. You may choose one of these, and only one, as a gift for your kindness. The first gift I can offer you is a fabulous chest of gold worth 100 million dollars. As an alternative I can guarantee you a life of great happiness as long as you remain poor. You must choose now. You have 10 seconds. . ."

Ok... If you are not sure which to pick you need to change your priorities before you attempt to make money. If you hesitated before picking you still need to work on your priorities in life. Maybe you picked the right answer immediately but still have a slight lingering remorse. You too need to work on priorities.

A truly healthy person understands that happiness in life is the ONLY goal. Ironically this is the type of person who is best prepared to make a lot of money. These people understand the relative importance of money within a life of happiness.

Sounds like preachy stuff... well... I can't give you the key to making money without a lesson in responsibility. That would be like handing the keys to a brand new Murciealgo to your 10 year old brother.


OK, finally the key to becoming rich...
Davo was right; you must become your own boss...
If you want to become very rich and that is truly an important goal for you then you must own your own business. Give up any thought of working for others (in the long term). Society trys to teach you to go to school, get a job, buy a house and settle into a risk-free life of relative comfort by working for a good company. This leads to a life a relative captivity. You work from paycheck to paycheck to support the purchase of your house and car (Lexus not Lambo) all while building the value of someone else’s company. NOBODY can become very wealthy through paychecks!! Let me demonstrate...

Say you do extremely well and by the time you are 25 you have work your salary up to $125,000 / year.
After income taxes of 39k
and house payments of 25k
and car, and living, and insurance and everything else
If you save 25k a year you are doing very well.
Let’s see if you maintain that for 10 years you'll have 250K. 20 years 500k. 30 years.. Geeze your in your 50's. When was it that you plan to become rich? You'll certainly have enough to pay off your house.. Well maybe. But that doesn't leave much for retirement.

I know, I know, I left off compounding. But I also left off inflation, changing jobs, buying a Lambo. It evens out. Anyway, I guess the dream of becoming a millionaire got left behind when you decided to get married. And you will get married. Then the kids will come. They will want college. You'll be lucky to pound out a living.

So back to the main point if you are going to get rich it will not be through paychecks unless your 7 feet and you can slam a basketball.

The way you will become rich is to own your own company and have others work for you. This is the only way.

A life of owning your own business is not a risk-free life nor is it a guarantee of wealth. But as for me, I wouldn't have any other way. Besides when I'm on my death-bed looking back at my life I don't want to say.. "I successfully avoided taking chances".

-Tony Goodman

Hey Tony,

Good to hear from you. Was kind of wondering where you had disappeard to, been busy???

You make very valid points in your post. I must say that everyone should take that to heart and not just those who originally pondered the question becoming rich or owning a nice car.

How's the car, good I hope!!! :iceslolan

Hey Tony, I haven't been here in months I never got the chance and the buisness was on the busy side. But I agree with Tony, you have to start your own buisness, but you also have to appeal to a large crowd.

Take Tony, he owns a video game company, this appeals to teens, pre-teens, young adults and often times older adults. My buisness doesnt appeal to such a large crowd, there-for I dont made near as much money as he does. Another example was when I was watching a show on MTV called 'dissmessed' where a guy who was 25 was driving around in a 355 F1 Spider. Why? Because he had a clothing company, people need clothes, right?

You cant start out huge though. If you borrow all this money to have a floor in a skyscraper in New York, hire 30 employees and then your buisness folds, you got a hell of a problem. Your best bet is to start out small, and build on when the money comes in to do so. I'll give you three example companies that I look up to.

1. Orange County Choppers- The owner Paul Sr. started building bikes in his basement. His son got into it, and they sold a few bikes, and eventually decided to take this public. They built a shop, and hired a few workers, hired a few more workers, built another shop for a spicific purpose and so on and so forth. Now they have a multi-million dollar buisness, their own show on the Discovery Channel, and God-knows how many workers.

2. Rolex- Some guy in the 1800s said "It is possible to make a wrist watch." Back then, a wrist watch was unheard-of, everyone was perfectly content with their pocket watches. This swiss guy started making wrist watches in his home and sold them to people who were willing to think outside the box. News of this wirst watch spread, then other companies companies started making them. Now in 2003, wrist watches are everywhere, and Rolex is still making watches. Also, Rolex is one of if not the most looked-up-to watch makers in the world and their products are sold in thousnds and thousands of jewlery stores world-wide.

3.Armani (Giorgio Armani)- An Italian guy who want by the name of 'Armani' had a passion for designing clothes. He again, started out very small. His prodicts were considered top-of-the-line. People who could afford them, purchesed them. Now Giorgio Armani has about 7 different branches of his company, which includes a furnature company, jewlery line, and a frangrance line. There are companies, but few who compete with his, like Fendi, Dolce&Gabanna, Gucci, and Burberry.

I could go on for hours naming companies like those. Another point is do something you have a passion for, but keep thease tips in mind. Earning enough money to buy a Lamborghini isn't going to come overnight, it can take decades to make that much. If you are patient and really want that Lambo, you can wait. If you ever feel like giving up on those dreams think of the day you can grip the steering wheel of that Murcielago and honestly call it yours, and when you can step into your 10,000 square-foot home.

1. Orange County Choppers- The owner Paul Sr. started building bikes in his basement. His son got into it, and they sold a few bikes, and eventually decided to take this public. They built a shop, and hired a few workers, hired a few more workers, built another shop for a spicific purpose and so on and so forth. Now they have a multi-million dollar buisness, their own show on the Discovery Channel, and God-knows how many workers.
West Coast Choppers OWNS OCC in all aspects.
But yea, becoming an entreprenuer is the best way.
And its all in taking risks. And owning your own company you also have to conform to the way the world evolves around your company. For instance, my dad started off his business going on 11 years ago selling computer supplies(toner, printers, etc, he didn't sell actual computers just parts). But b/c of the internet and the wholesale prices everything is sold at, he lost a large number of customers. But then there were those who didn't mind paying a little more by knowing exactly who they were dealing with and knew how honest and quickly my dad works to keep their businesses running. But b/c he lost so many customers he had to move into other directions to gain new customers which has again turned out very well. While my dad has not made millions hes done very well for himself and allowed our family to live very comforablely.
This hardest part in starting some businesses is you usually have to sell yourself and unless you have the natural ability its sometimes is very difficult to do. But thats what my dad has done almost all his working life so he developed a skill and made it his niche. He actually started his own business after continually outselling everyone at the companies he worked for and seeing everyone else who did a lot worse getting promoted. B/c I've seen first hand what it takes, it can be a long and difficult road, and still is for my dad(having to work so much)but the rewards can be great.

also, to own your own business you have to be in the RIGHT business, and earning a reasonable profit. You have to pay workers wages, and any rental you might have, etc. If you are in the IT industry, you have to pay to hire workers, and maybe even pay for them to be trained.
there is millions of bucks to be made in the IT industry, but you must realise, the demand at uni for an IT coarse is the highest demand in recorded history. In sydney alone, a single uni could get, out of say for eg 5000 applications, 4500 of them are IT.
Therefore the IT industry is in highdemand, but also extremly high competition.
9 out of 10 small business fail with in their first 5 years of operation, this is fact.
that 8 out of 10 business fail in their first 5 years after their first 5 year survived period.
I'm not sure on that figure, it could actually be 7, someone correct me.

the moral is, not just to think being your own boss, but to be everyone's boss and provide the public with something everyone needs.
Businesses need IT.
What do the people need?

My idea is negitive gearing, that's were my heart rests (next to being in a big band and all, but I have a greater chance of success in realestate)

If you think hard, you'll find the answer.
But don't get into something because of the money. If you chose a job you love, you would never of worked a day in your life.

They say it from the moment you're born: "Never stop dreaming, live up to your potential".

I chose negitive gearing because of what i said earlyer, the fail rate, and the demand.

Tourism will never die, and they need somewhere to stay, and i will provide a home for them


Tony_Ensemble, maybe next time you visist sydney i could hook you up with a house. (That's a big IF, i'm still a kid and don't own a house)

I am 16, and me and my family are well off.

I have an '02 Land Rover, and my father has an '03 Porsche Turbo. I have been working since I was 13 as a Chief Stock Analyst at a small start up company. I learned a lot about business, and I enjoyed it at the same time. One day, the CEO fired half the workforce; that was an experience. The pay was good; I averaged about 35 dollars an hour. But after 2 years, the company fell through, and I was ready for another adventure. For the past year, I have starting my own company called Sahara Systems. The goal of my company is to make an operating system on the cell phone platform that is easy to use (as Palm OS is), and yet is powerful, with the capabilities of a desktop (like Pocket PC); a sort of Lindows for that cell phone world. The last year, however, has been difficult. I have not even started programming the OS. It has been hard enough trying to get investors to give money to a 16 year old, and also the process of making a preliminary design for the OS has been complicated. My no. 1 competitor, Symbian OS, has a different outlook then Sahara OS does, however, it is still difficult to compete with a multimillion dollar company. Nevertheless, next to my family and school, this company is my life. I just purchased Visual Studio.net, and I am going to start a visual rendition of what the OS will look like. Also, like the N-Gage Nokia cell phone, my OS will be geared to the gaming world. Cell Phone gaming will be a multibillion dollar industry by 2006, and I have been trying to contact Rockstar Games and other gaming companies, trying to create a strong alliance, however, this too has proven difficult. So, to get to my point, there are so many ideas out there, pick one, and try to start a company around it. You are young, as I am, and if you fail, you will always have your education to fall on.

I would like to add something too, many people think that if you are a CEO and rich, you can buy any car you want too. Although this may be true, in the business world, you have to be very careful in what you show off. As a CEO, you report to the shareholders, and if shareholders see that you are spending their money on your luxuries, and not on the company, they will get upset, and take their money out of your company. So, as a lesson, a low key CEO, is the best CEO.

Tony, I have to say that I really enjoyed playing Age of Empires, and I would be more that happy to be one of your beta testers, or I would appreciate it greatly if we could talk for a little while about my company and its strategy.

Goddamn kid, you got it down. But when I was 16 I my perents had it pretty well off and I was working at his dealership :banghead: . To have a IT company at 16, you should be real proud of yourself, I know I would be. WantXotics, you really should listen to him, hes 16 and by the time he's 30 he will more then likely be a billionarre. Best of luck to you.

For the past year, I have starting my own company called Sahara Systems. The goal of my company is to make an operating system on the cell phone platform that is easy to use (as Palm OS is), and yet is powerful, with the capabilities of a desktop (like Pocket PC); a sort of Lindows for that cell phone world. The last year, however, has been difficult. I have not even started programming the OS. It has been hard enough trying to get investors to give money to a 16 year old, and also the process of making a preliminary design for the OS has been complicated. My no. 1 competitor, Symbian OS, has a different outlook then Sahara OS does, however, it is still difficult to compete with a multimillion dollar company.

You are either lying, or just not very bright.
And you won't become a 'billionarre' either way, just ask sizzilinS7.

SizzilinS7: Thank You, although I am trying to make my company a success, the odds are against me. I believe that it is a person’s vision and ability to perform that makes him or her a good CEO.

Deakins: I do not understand your comment?

He's skeptical about a 16 year old kid running his own business, he doesnt know what to believe.

Deakins; the kids's parents are wealthy, he has a head start and something to fall on if the company goes bankrupt.

Sahara was the codename for Palms 6th OS from earlier this year, suppossed to be released in December.

Hum, a year ago when I searched "Sahara OS" in google, I received zero hits. I should have copyrighted right then, but my father insisted that I should not get caught up in creating a website and copyrighting a name until I had some serious investor support, or until I was deep into the creation of the OS. The name of the OS is somewhat irrelevant to me until I get more support.

A life of owning your own business is not a risk-free life nor is it a guarantee of wealth. But as for me, I wouldn't have any other way. Besides when I'm on my death-bed looking back at my life I don't want to say.. "I successfully avoided taking chances".

-Tony Goodman

I think I'm going to print this out and stick it on the wall!

I will add some notes of my own in case anyone is even remotely interested, this might be a bit long but I can't really shorten it without it loosing some of it's purpose.

I am 19 and I have already worked in many educationally useful jobs. Perhaps I'm not as old as most of you, but I'm confident a lot of you also won't have done some of the work I have, and there is no subsitute for experience. Try to pay close attention to what I have learnt from each job.

My dad died when I was 10 after around 15 years of having cancer. When my older brother and sister left soon after I was given the role of looking after my younger brother as well as the guilt and problems most fathers acquire relating to things like keeping the house tidy, fixing the car, insurance and all the rest. My mum also became depressed in her attitude towards life and took up drinking quite often; for instance complaining about how much school work she had to mark after coming home, drinking, falling asleep and waking up again at 3am. At the moment she is almost an annoyance equal in size to a small child as she creates thousands upon thousands of problems for herself and adds resistance to her own progress unknowingly, blaming others for her mistakes. This made school very unpleasant and for it's entirity I was too embarassed to invite anyone home, including my friends, because of the way our family lived. If I met a girl while I was out I couldn't ask her back because I knew what she would think when we got home. Which is hard when you're 14 - 18 and all your friends have a girl on their knee while you walk round in clothes that are years old or perhaps not even your own. On result day my mum was disappointed with my results and honestly thought I was joking when I told her. I then went to someone's party, picking up a third bottle of whiskey within 48 hours. While walking home, a pair if lads beat me up for fun, stole nothing from me, and I ended up in hospital having my arm stitched. Everyone had to tidy up the house because the police needed to call round the next day to speak to me.

It really crushes the shit out of you to sit in a room with all your friends around you while someone is asking why you're failing, then waits for a reply.

Yet I feel it is a quality that until now I have not complained and voiced just how insanely angry and sad I started to feel.

My first job was not so bad, it was the work experience period run by my school for 15 - 16 year olds which encourages students to go out and find somewhere interesting to see what working is like for a few days. I knew a 30+ guy who was really into computers and all the fun half legal, or half illegal, stuff like modifying Playstations or phones; so I asked him if he'd mind me working with him for a while. It entailed working in a computer store run by two or three guys making custom computers for people. One of the owners was already working as member of the Police's ITC team, in fact he was in charge of it. During my one week stay I amazed him with what programs like Sub Seven are capable of even in the hands of a complete retard, or most 16 year olds :grinno:; showing the true lack of knowledge and wish, or ability, to update within some groups.

The guys who ran the group simply weren't making enough money each week. They were selling maybe two or three computers a week at most, and selling them very affordably. As a result, there wasn't enough profit being made to keep it running; and their shop was barely big enough for two people to move around in! The two owners got into arguments over pathetic problems and the entire thing fell apart. However, I was incredibly happy when one of the guys who owned the store invited me into the office, if you could call it that. He gave me a certificate and lots of pieces of paper with thank yous and nice words on to put in my work profile. He gave me a Mars bar and 20 pounds for my weeks work. My friend also bought me my lunch one afternoon which was kind! I had a lot of fun working there despite doing the greater percentage of the work. I put together people's computers, fixed problems with them and did other bits and pieces... all the while I had someone really pleasant to work with. Although now the 20 pounds seems like nothing in reality, I still hold the opinion that it was the theory and thoughts behind it that are impressive. That someone actually appreciated something I'd done.

This job showed me that if you don't have some form of cohesion, outlook and enthusiam in a job then it will fail without question.

My next job was unpaid work experience with a steel working company, which was due to a mistake. I expected to end up at a machining centre, in reality, another company had ripped off the original company's name and spelt it with one letter different. Anyway, I worked there for a week; I am being serious, I worked at least as hard, if not harder than any of the guys 'qualified' to work there. I had blisters on my feet from walking myself home. We welded beer keg trucks, huge oil containers for some company like Mobile and anything else people brought to us. I was very excited about starting work as I admire the precision of metal work and there I would get to use some expensive gear. It made me seriously appreciate what I could actually do to see the bits of stuff I was welding go from a piece of rusty looking bar to a sparkling powder coated truck that looked as though it had been made by a professional.

At 14 I bought a MIG welder and taught myself to weld. I welded together a frame and built a furnace for pouring molten iron from some of the best refractory available. You would be impressed with some of the flames that flew out of it! They were measurable in feet.

During this work experience period, I had one of the guys stand up from the table during a break and begin insulting me because I said no thank you to someone when they offered me a piece of toast, I was too polite apparently. He went on talking crap for about ten minutes or so about how my dad probably owned a yacht and took me sailing at the weekends. After that I kind of wondered why I was there when I wasn't even being paid to be insulted and I considered just not turning up the next morning. But the next morning I did turn up and I continued working there for the rest of the week. The same guy also told me a few times to decrease the amount of work I was doing, most likely due to it showing just how little he did himself in comparison.

As always, I also met one very kind guy who worked there who actively tried to show me things that I might like trying, such as TIG welding bits of aluminium rather than just cleaning metal off or making cups of tea. When my week ended he told me his dad would probably like me to work for him. Since it was my summer holidays I said that was excellent and he called his dad about it. I recieved absolutely nothing from the company and no one spoke to me; in fact, no one had even bothered telling the staff I would be there. The next time I saw one of the staff the first and only thing they asked was why I was still there.

This job showed me what I was capable of producing with my own hands, what hard work does and gave me a good lesson in what some people believe to be important.

My next job was custom welding gates and railings, this time, however, I was being paided to work. Deep down the guy was not aggresive or someone who would actively attack you but he was also not very cleaver and would do things that became very annoying, very quickly. Such as consistently blaming things on me in front of people because I was there and easy to blame. Again, here I was doing by far the greastest amount of work. In a morning I could put together a gate that we would sell for a hundred pounds plus without too much trouble. Yet my pay was 125 a week, out of which the guy also wanted me to buy him drinks at the bar at least every Friday without fail. He considered this to be a fair wage for someone who was 18, neglecting to consider that at 18 I am legally indentical to someone who's 30, 40 or 50. You would think someone who fits 3000 pound electric gates would need to know the difference between + and - electrically right? Wrong! Because this guy sure didn't.

I rapidly learned the rules he, and every other labourer used, to lying through a job. Electric gates don't work? Change the 80 pound sensors that work just fine, play around with some wires, if it works... great! If it doesn't, who cares, you've been paid and you get a pair of working sensors out of it for your own house. Buy all your diesel at reduced rates through your buisness, including the 4000 gallons you need to run a life boat you use for your diving hobby. I watched him lie to every customer we ever had. Keep that in mind. We once visited a big chemical works that produced food flavourings for just about everything you've ever eaten; a lot of them even included cute hazardous substance labels featuring skull and cross bones or irritant symbols. I watched as this guy wasted hundred of pounds trying random ideas with no logic behind them to fix a broken electrical gate they had. He had to drive out to this place 3 or 4 times as his last attempt to fix the gate, I could barely push shut it was so heavy, ripped itself apart under the stress; each time using up an hour or so in travel time that he could have been earning money in. Because it was a company with no face, he did not have to worry about an angry individual person. He refused to take any help from me, he went as far as refusing to pick up tools for me to use even while I had things like metal railings in both hands that he'd told me to keep hold of, just to prove he didn't have to. Arguably useful if you're stupid, but realistically, forcing me to go backwards on what I'd done only resulting in him making less money in the long run.

Anyways... I also had a wonder around inside the chemical works. It was kind of scary stuff. Inside I saw lots of shelves. Lots and lots and lots of shelves and lots of machinery. The entire factory was empty but for three or four people and the entire thing was running automatically. Like Tony has said, I realised at this point that this was the only way to ever make a lot of money. The machines did almost everything, ten times faster, for practically nothing in return.

This just job not only taught me all the ways people lie and cheat to achive stupid goals, but as I have said, the true way to make money and what a waste of time negative thoughts are. The guy I worked for told me I would be able to get a job working where ever I wanted, when ever I wanted. I watched one of my friends join me with him at the weekend once and completely ruin my work, assuring me of the fact of how adaptable I am. He is now doing a degree in engineering because he believes it's the correct way forward for him. He did not even know what the course entailed until he was at the university sitting it. This job also made me appreciate what I could achieve even more as I saw my work change raw metal into something in someone's house. A number of those houses costing the better half of a million pounds or more, in beautiful areas; one of the houses was owned by a gynocologist in case you're wondering how their owners could afford them. A few months after leaving his buisness, where I'd worked for about a month or two, the guy arrived on my door step telling me he missed me working for him and would really like me to go back. He lived from the money in his hand to paying for his dinner. He was amazed he could afford a house that cost 25,000 pounds between both his and his son's wages. He also taught me to never work harder than I actually needed to; things like, rather than picking up heavy bits of metal, I should just pivot them to where I wanted them. To the extent of a few of us moving drills around by hand that would squash a Murcielago flat without noticing. Something those who do not do such hard work do not immediately realise, yet saving vast amounts of uneeded effort. A simple example, but applicable to anything. I also learnt about hard work, arriving home and falling asleep on the floor.

My most recent job was working in a packing plant hand packing boxes of face wipes and similar things; the kind of things chick's wipe their make-up off with. The shift was a monitored 12 hours, continuously standing up. It took hours to drive out to the plant so I had to wake up at 5am to get there on a bus they provided. By the time I got home it was 9pm at night and I had to go to bed within an hour or two at most. The plant ran 24 hours a day and we loaded literally thousands of boxes per hour. I worked so hard I began hearing people talking to me when I got home at night and it would not stop until I went to bed. If remember rightly I loaded roughly 10 - 20 million packets a shift. Our breaks were disturbingly short and I even fell asleep in a number of them, waking up just as they ended. It was really painful to go in the next morning and see those people who'd come in as you left, walking off the floor like they had mentally died three times over. All the while knowing you wouldn't be going anywhere else until you saw them again! :smile: Understandably grinning as we walked past the others and out of the plant to get back on the bus. There are a lot of false beliefs about this kind of work. You can not switch off after a few hours. The machines constantly jam if they're fed wrongly, boxes burst, pallets break, lines stop, lines start, labellers break down and when you have 500 packets piling up at the input of the line every few minutes you don't have time to call and wait for a technician to arrive to fix it for you.

Pay from this job was more normal but still nothing. It was 270 pounds for three 12 hour shifts, without taxation. Until you try working for 12 hours every day, while standing up on concrete, you don't have any comprehension for how hard it is... skilled or not. Ex machina, people become drones.

From this job I learnt what it feels like to be close to the maximum extent a job can rule a person's life all the way thru to their death. Pointlessly in the long term. I even had to sign a legal document to remove my rights for working under a certain number of hours per week to be at this place. And I had a great deal of respect for the masses of students, like me, that they hired, not because they were incredibly intelligent but because they were devoted enough to arrived for work every day despite facing 12 hour shifts which never seemed to ever end. This was just like the chemical works, hundreds of untrained staff doing thousands of hours worth of work for not very much at all. Yet the output of this plant could easily have supplied every store in England. I saw brand names from practically every major company going thru the plant. I saw how they have absolutely no regard for the products other than selling them. There was a wall in the warehouse full of faulty products. You think you're doing well if you send back a packet of something because it has something wrong with it? When the place makes it in a fraction of a second for a few pence, you're not. All the novel and different products that removed make-up in some amazingly different way were all indentical, they were all made in exactly the same way and all the plant needed to do was to change the packet from dark blue to light blue to sell it for twice as much. Staff were actively encourage to 'accidentally' ignore health and safety guidelines, they were left untrained and effectively forced to not adhere to what the company stated where the limits of it's operating parameters. Such as, washing our hands with alcohol every 20 minutes to kill bacteria on them; which was nothing other than impossible until our team's break, due to the sheer volume of output relentlessy rolling from the machines. The company knew this was happening, and had to happen, but ignored it since they could easily fire a few workers if anyone complained. Which is nothing other than unacceptable. Particularly so when you see the products being sold for 5 and 6 pounds per packet. Judging from the output and cost of the product, who ever owned this plant was making more money than they'd ever be able to spend on things other than new companies.

I also learnt how to greatly help workers and improve efficiency over all. Because after working for 6 or so hours nothing made me think better of the plant where I worked then to be able to go into the restroom, to be able to get free, ice cold drinks out of the vending machines and to be able to sit in a nice clean room with a cool fan blowing down on me. The floor of the place was at a constant temperature due to all the machinery and required fans 4ft tall to cool the staff down to a moderate temperature while working. Conveyor belts where always set to run just slightly faster than the workers could collect from them, meaning if they were constantly working as fast as possible and when the machine broke down or needed some new colours adding, there was a over flow bin to pack.

All of this work was shitty in some way or another. But I have also gained an incredible amount of information relating to how people should manage things for them to be sucessfull; learning different bits from each job. I have no interest in buisness studies or management training and I believe if any employer was to experience a selection of jobs similar to those I have, they could improve their buisness to a point beyond it's original recognition. I speak from personal experience, simple things like having someone bring workers a drink of cool water half way thru a shift or giving them rubberised mats to stand on make them want to come into their jobs. How much does it cost to implement? One person's wages at most to make the entirity of the work force so much happier? If I am giving up more than 12 hours of my day for you, I should not have to rip up bits of cardboard to stand on to stop my skeleton developing stress injuries because you can't be bothered examining your practices.

It's a question of efficiency, respect for your work's quality and grouping together ideas. Pure logic for the most part. Society benefits those who give something to it. You don't need to be majorly intelligent to pick up a load of catalogs, read thru them finding out what everthing does, then put two and two togther and apply them to a problem within society. You just need to be inventive. Even using someone else's idea in a novel way is Patent viable. I get things like free magazines on the very newest laser theory and developments posted to me that are meant for laser laboratories or corporations. Already, even as a member of the public, I can see ideas being suggested in recent issues that have the potential to be worth billions of pounds within the next few years. Making that knowledge and technology common place and available to those who can utilise it in an accessable form is the way to make a serious amount of money from it. To improve your job or efficiency, you need to first examine the problems. If you're the CEO of a company, go down to where all the workers are, ask them what they don't like, ask them which machines make too much noise to work near, ask them if they would like some better work boots to make thier legs hurt less or whatever applies to your organisation. Put on the uniform and work as one of them for a week, feel what the problems are with the way you manage your company. After a few shifts working as one of your own staff, you will appreciate the problems and solutions. If you are put straight into a position of organising others before you ever have to experience the problems they themselves face with your system, then you will never reach your full potential. At first you may look at a problem like a wrapping system that jams every few minutes and think of it as nothing. When you have had to reset that system hundred of times a day you will see just how much of a problem it represents. These rules apply to everything, they are fundamental.

I have seen posts like Tony's before but until I gained all this experience I was slow to take them up. Tony gave me a good reminder of reality. You will never get rich working for someone else in the real world. If you have a family who can pay for you to start your own buisness and give you help, great. If not, that's no excuse not to try. Tony is also right that no matter what you end up doing, you shouldn't do it to the point where you become unhappy, because even if you have enough to buy four Murcielago's, or your own jet plane, what use are they if you never have any time to play around with them right? Don't readjust your bank loans and write your house off to try and afford a car for fucks sake! Look at why you can't afford it in the first place! :smile:

I have started keeping a piece of paper and a pen with me. Rather than just come up with inventive ideas and think 'I wonder', I write them down. And I also write down what I want to achieve within a specific time frame. I tick it off as I move through it. I have started teaching myself electronics and have begun ordering parts to build prototypes of what is currently only theory.

I don't have parents who can afford to buy me a company set up to make the products. I even have friends claiming social security with more money than I do. But with my past experience, I am determined that I will work for myself and I will be happy with my life. I will not lower my morals anymore to make someone else happy and believe there are still people who admire high quality work.

Of coarse, finding the money to initially set up such things is difficult.

I'm sure lots of you have died of boredom by now but I just thought it might be fitting to post this up here as a reference for some of the things I've experienced in first hand. I have not exagerated in any part of this entire post, so please believe my reasoning and explanations of these jobs. Perhaps reading some part of this might help start someone out of a drone lifestyle and make them happier!

Good luck to you all! :smile:
John

Man do you people have it all wrong!, you must have you`r priorities in the right order! DONT BUY A CAR FIRST! buy a house first invest in property, go to college get a good college degree, get you`r MBA, do good in school get good grades, then when the time comes, go out and buy a home, get a job, then buy small things like cars later on in life when you have the money and you can afford it, that`s the real way to afford a Lamborgini like that.

Look at me i`m a good example for younge people like you, im 47 years old, i have my MBA i have a 6 year degree in enginering, i live in a $3,000,000 dollor house in L.A., i own a Porche Cyanne Turbo, a Ferrari 360 Spyder and an Infinitie FX45, but it takes hard work and preserverince, that what it really takes to live the good life, good hard work! take that in and think about it guys befor you go blow all you`r dow on a car, when you should be saving up for college or a house, i grew up with alot of friends that are taking the same roads as you guys, they grew up to be Hamberger flippers at McDonalgs, sure they had nice cars back then, but now there old fat men that are poor and living in crack houses. ok i`m done i jsut wanted you younge people to think about that.

I dident read you`r post till i was done with mine but, man that`s a very sad story, EVERYBODY EVERYBODY, this kid right here is an example of the way all kids should deal with problems, that is a truelly sad story.... i grew up in a little house in Minnesota but... dang that`s sad

FXman, I agree with you ideology, however, I disagree with the direction in which you pointed your comment towards. As for myself, I really could care less about the cars I drive for the next twenty or so years. I do agree with your point though, and it really hits home. About 28 years ago, my uncle had a brand new charger, and my dad had a old, windowless Chevy Malibu. Now look what happened, my uncle moved back to Iran, and although he is somewhat successful their, he has to stay in Iran to live a nice life (Persian money does not have a good exchange rate). My father on the other hand, has done much better than anyone would have expected, and a hundred times better than my uncle.

FXman, if you don’t mind me asking, what do you do for a living?

well as a personal trait im not going to tell you the company, but i will tell you what i am, I am a CEO of a 690 billion dollor company, that`s all i`ll tell you thought, it`s not you it`s just, that is kindof agaisnt what i say online...

well as a personal trait im not going to tell you the company, but i will tell you what i am, I am a CEO of a 690 billion dollor company, that`s all i`ll tell you thought, it`s not you it`s just, that is kindof agaisnt what i say online...
For someone who runs a 690 billion doller company, I would think that you should know how to spell and form sentences.

690 billion, is that assets or revenue?

well as a personal trait im not going to tell you the company, but i will tell you what i am, I am a CEO of a 690 billion dollor company, that`s all i`ll tell you thought, it`s not you it`s just, that is kindof agaisnt what i say online...


*COUGH* bullshit *COUGH*

I don't even think microsoft has that much revenue.

690 billion, is that assets or revenue?
You mean you "flipped" 650 burgers! Right? Amazing.

LOL I think it is seriously sad what FXMan posts, he is a liar and his story makes no sense what so ever- he is 47 years and 45 years old at the same time, runs a 690 billion dollar company (yet cannot distinguish the type of wealth his company holds) yet has to SAVE UP FOR A 360 SPIDER and his "wfie" *Cough* Right hand *Cough* isn't allowed to go shopping anymore due to the expense of purchasing his $123,000 AND $196,000 Ferrari 360 Spyder, owns a car which he cannot spell the brand name properly (Infiniti) and only lives in a $3,000,000 house while still hooked up to an AOL account (BUT HE RUNS AN IT COMPANY)


It's insulting to people like me who had to work thier asses off in school and slave thier asses off in University who still can't afford a used 330i at 28.

But really to own a Murcie, takes time, passion, skill and patience- if you are like a AUTHENTIC successful person such as Tony who has a good idea- then you are well on your way- but really you'll need to be high up the corporate ladder to be able to afford one

Right on Jimster. Can anyone say 'busted'?

Speaking of Tony, where is he? I havn't seen him online in a long time.

LOL I think it is seriously sad what FXMan posts, he is a liar and his story makes no sense what so ever- he is 47 years and 45 years old at the same time, runs a 690 billion dollar company (yet cannot distinguish the type of wealth his company holds) yet has to SAVE UP FOR A 360 SPIDER and his "wfie" *Cough* Right hand *Cough* isn't allowed to go shopping anymore due to the expense of purchasing his $123,000 AND $196,000 Ferrari 360 Spyder, owns a car which he cannot spell the brand name properly (Infiniti) and only lives in a $3,000,000 house while still hooked up to an AOL account (BUT HE RUNS AN IT COMPANY)


It's insulting to people like me who had to work thier asses off in school and slave thier asses off in University who still can't afford a used 330i at 28.

But really to own a Murcie, takes time, passion, skill and patience- if you are like a AUTHENTIC successful person such as Tony who has a good idea- then you are well on your way- but really you'll need to be high up the corporate ladder to be able to afford one

RIGHT ON JIMSTER!!! FXMAN, what do you have to say?

I just thought I would add my thoughts to this discussion...

Firstly I am a 15 year old kid, like many other people owning an exotic (anything from a 911 Turbo to a Murci) is one of my ambitions, always has been and I suppose it always will be. I do relatively well in school and would like to follow a career in law or finance. Owning an expensive car is not my first priority, having a place to live and a solid job are far more important. I understand that it will be a very long time until I will be realistically able to afford an exotic (if ever), and even so there are always going to be alternatives to spending such a large sum of money on a car. Just talking in terms of cars I would be very happy with a 911 C4, or any 911 for that matter. This car is almost 100 grand cheaper than a Murcielago and maintenance/insurance etc. also considerably cheaper, so even if I somehow could afford an exotic its a completely different thing affording the running costs. So I try to be realistic about it, but its really no use as its always there in the back of your mind...But at the same time owning an exotic is not the purpose of my life, but would be a great addition to it.

So this is a question to all (especially people like Tony) - is it a bad thing to set your sights lower than what you potentially can achieve (if I may use this analogy again) a 911 instead of a Lambo?

is it a bad thing to set your sights lower than what you potentially can achieve (if I may use this analogy again) a 911 instead of a Lambo?

If you have the potential, why settle for less than what you can really do? The only reason I can think of is there would be something more valuable to you than money that you don't want to give up. And if that's the case, you'll will be happier with that decision.

just work for a Lamborghini dealership and maybe you could like test drive one that's all i can say because i can't :cough: afford one. :grinno:

i already knew that i had to to be in an executive position to afford cars like the Murc.

But what I want to know is what I should study in collage? Im still in high school and i got 3 more years till im in collage and i want to know what i should take

Whatever interests you, that is the most important thing. If you take something that doesn't interest you, simply because the resulting profession may pay well, your life will be an unhappy one. It's true what they say, if you find a job that you like, you will never work a day in your life. A car is but a single, small aspect in life, and you should concentrate on building the more important aspects.

Right on Jimster. Can anyone say 'busted'?

Speaking of Tony, where is he? I havn't seen him online in a long time.
That's what i was thinking the other day. I wonder if he forgot his password? LOL.

That's what i was thinking the other day. I wonder if he forgot his password? LOL.
I am pretty sure that he is Murci-less. I saw it for sale a month ago or so.

I am pretty sure that he is Murci-less. I saw it for sale a month ago or so.
What?who?where? Where did you see this?? Do you happen to know why? I still think and hope he posts.

What?who?where? Where did you see this?? Do you happen to know why? I still think and hope he posts.

On Lamborghni Dallas' webpage and on Ebay. 2003 Orange Murcielago with the smooth/suede interior chrome wheels. It had approx. 1600 miles on it and he said he had about 1300 miles or so on his a while back. Maybe he picked up another one or something else.

I'm still waiting for my flag :(

I am 19 myself, and i have to say I have a love I mean a LOVE for cars especially LAMBORGHINIS, it goes well beyond the "the look at my ride, I'm all that and a bag of chips" posers out there.

So for me what ever I am going to do in life, it must be related to cars. Tha's why I just have to become an automotive designer. Right now in my life it is my only focus.

But at the same time I realize there are many smaller goals I will need to reach in order to become a top designer, and they are all on the path of my journey.

I think that is the important thing knowing your ultimate goal and being totally focused upon it, and also knowing what small steps in life will have to be taken to reach there.

For me when I see even just a picture of a Lambo, it evokes the kind of emotions a man has when he sees an absolutely beautiful woman he has to be with.

So I intend to start a web design business in order to save some money towards an Industrial Design Education, whilst caught up in my Computer Science degree.

Just a year a go I would not have thought like this, but it is often one seemingly life changing event or chain of events that make the kind of people who are able to never worry about money in their lives(that's what being rich is), and focus on the really important things, passion, family, friends, community. Lets just say a chain opf events happened to me and I never want to experience them again.

Well that's my 2 cents.

i don't really know but to run one you will need to work at the Sunoco oil mine......

this thread is so boring...how come the murcielago forum has been so dead lately???

On Lamborghni Dallas' webpage and on Ebay. 2003 Orange Murcielago with the smooth/suede interior chrome wheels. It had approx. 1600 miles on it and he said he had about 1300 miles or so on his a while back. Maybe he picked up another one or something else.
Tim, my buddy and i were comparing the photos of Tony's and the one at Lambo Dallas and were not so sure that it is his. The colors appears to be different. The one in the showroom looks pearl while Tonys looks Metallic(which i believe it is). But were still not 100% sure b/c the car inside the showroom could look different than being out in the sun.

OK all you young guys on here... I want to give you some practical advice here... and I tell you this from experience...

I am 23 years old. I finished uni 3 years ago in IT, and went consulting. Start buying property 2 years ago and 9 months ago started my own consulting firm.

Buy a book called Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kyosaki. That book should change your THINKING patterns on what you need to do if you want to be financially free.

Also read John Burley's books, and perhaps Dolf De Roos' book called "real estate riches". Learn about how to invest in Property and how to buy businesses.

If you work for someone, you will mos tlikely never have a murci.

Check out the following forums:

www.johnburley.com (forums section)
www.somersoft.com/forums

Actually check out the books on Somersoft (Jan Somer's books).

Get financial education!!! Learn how to read balance sheets, p/l statements, etc etc etc.

Read Warren Buffet's Way if you want to learn about patience and money.

Find as many books on successful people like Richard Branson, etc and memorise them. Let these books inspire you, and DO NOT LISTEN to people who tell you what you CAN'T do... screw 'em! You can do anything you want to do, the limit is your imagination.

If you are lacking self-belief read Bob Proctor and/or Tony Robbins stuff.

A MUST read "Think and Grow Rich" by Napoleon Hill. Also Richest Man in Babylon.

Anyway... that should be enough for now ;)

Oh yeah.... next week I am putting a deposit on my Gallardo :)

FXman, it could be true that your so rich and all but a man who owns the car should know that it's a cayenne instead of a cyanne and other things like that

Hi everyone:

I must say I really enjoyed reading this particular post. Now let me give you my personal story how I did it, but by no means do I advocate anyone to follow me, you must enjoy doing what you love and always remember that Health, family, and happiness is the MOST important factor in life.

My parents are european and came to this counrty with nothing. Unlike most people my parents aren't wealthy, infact both my parents were injured at work and now are on pension. My parents always thought that a good education -> good job --> find girl --> marreied --> kids
--> grandchildren --> THATS LIFE.

While growing up I always dreamed and I NEVER placed any limits on my slef. One day I trell my parents I wanted to be a lawyer, next day engineer, etc, etc. Anyways this became a mixed blessing, becuase my parents and relatives/friends began o think that I was all talk and no action; That I was just a dreamer.

At 20, I went to college for Business (3 years) and I the last semester I said "thats it?" , "Now what?" . Without sounding ignorant I thought that my education would lead me to some great job and sucess, well I was wrong, all it got me was a $35, 000 job that I didn't like al that much.

At 23 (2 weeks after my Bday) I decided to do something with myself and I began to think about all the things I wanted. And then I realized that inorder to do all the things I wanted and have all the things I dreamed I HAVE TO BECOME A ENTRAPUENER.

Since I lived at home, it wasn't all that hard to save. I saved my entire primary imcome (FULL TIME JOB $35,000), and took up a second semi full time job (20-25hours week/mostly hours on weekened) to give some to my parents and the rest to spend on daily stuff like gas, food and cloths.

MAN O MAN was it hard, but after a year I had managed to built myself quite a bit of money. Follow below:

Primary Job : ($35,000) $23,000 (some money was added from sec. job)
Second job : $12,000 @

My parents gave me some money on the side just so I had more, I didn't ask but I excepted it and told them I would take care of everything. My parents saw my determination and after witnessing my determination (no spending, no going out, constently reading, learning, semiars), and trusted that I would do the right thing.

Anyhow (kinda getting long...lol) I took out a line of credit from the bank ($20,000) and had about $7,000 in credit cards.

All this meant I could now buy a business (exisiting) and begin building on my sucess.

SHORT VERSION:

Business

1. Hair salon/spa ($120,000 morgage)
Gross $310,276 Cash Flow: $63,000
Overall: It was fun, and scary since it was my first business, but
I think it was a great first business to get into.

I quite my primary job and began working at my salon, I installed a few cameras over till and establishment, and did my book keeping on a daily basis to ensure that no one was taking advantage of me since I was young. I still kept my night job and saved all my "business" money, as I played to use it to open my second business.

YEAR LATER

2. Same as above, as I figured I now knew enough to be able to run 2
salon. The bank looked at me like I was crazy when I came in for
a second loan and they were very cautious. However I had 25% downpayment and against their warnings I took another loan.

YEAR 4 MONTHS LATER

quite parttmie job when I bought second salon and still spend ver little money (under $12,000). NOTE: MAN O MAN does it suck living at home at the age of 27, however I had alot of money in the bank and my parents didn't mind becuase they knew I was on the right track and that soon I would be able to build our new home and money wouldn't be an option.

This is where it gets tricky....going to the bank for the third time proved to be difficult, I had now over $110,000 in the bank but the bank was making it difficult to give me a loan, they said it was too early.

So Decided on a huge gamble I took $25,000 and gaive it to my parents as a "gift" (But realy just incase something happened I would be able to start over). I went to 3 private loan people and they each gave me $20,000 3 month extention 20 % int/month.

THEREFORE $145,000 + $5,000 from parents = $150,000

3. Convenience Store with Gasoline ($325,000 mortgage)
Gross: $1,500,000
Cash Flow: $155,000

4. Moving & Storage Company ($185,000 mortgage)
Cash Flow: $132,337

Anyways, Too speed everything up because im getting tired of typing, I then rented a small office in the city, hired 3 people min. salary to help me manage all my businesses. That meant that every business every day had to fax all sales/spending/reports to the office prior to closing. I had my staff then go threw it and make sure everthing checked out. Also I had lots of sec. cameras install and bought comp.s with special software so that I could check on a daily basis the progress of each businesses.

All in all at 29 I have a nice small fortune ($700,000 + year). Every year I keep buying more businesses, hire more semi-retired employees at my main office and I am even looking to get into Commercial property development (building small plazas). I could even begin to think about retiring around 40-45 and just keep my commerical properties and their rent.

IS IT HARD YOU SAY....Mmmmm at times, but if your organized, prioritize and think outta the box you can do it to. This is how I did it, step by step. As for my family, my parents go on trips like every month ( I wanted to show my appriaction and since they have never travelled now they go on crusies and vacations). My two younger brothers (23, 21) work for me and help me manage my businesses while going to school part time. Unfortuatly the rest of my extended family became jelous and tried to cause problems, so now I do not communicate with them any longer. I finally built my dream home on 40 arces (overall costing $450,000 - 4500 sq. ft home) which will be paid out next year, and I can begin purchasing my dream car collection (1 per 1 1/2 yr.) starting of course with the 2005/6 Lamborghini Murciélago E-Gear (or when it comes out).

So their you have it, what do you have to do to own a Lamborghini Murciélago? at least what I did is become an entrapenur/real estate developer, I hope this helps ....sorry about the long read but I think it was worth it.

Thank you for your time and considerations

oops, I hit the submit button before checking my spelling. Hope you can make it out, sorry.

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Doctor

As a doctor, you will be able to aford one down the road, as long as you don't splurge too much on a lavish home and other enemities. But since your working hard to become a doctor, I have know doubt that you have enough common sense about money management.

Good luck on your endevours and I wish you sucess on becomming a doctor.

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Here's what I want to do. I'm in college right now studying to be a journalist, so I highly doubt I'll ever be able to afford a Lamborghini doing this career. However, my love for automobiles combined with my writing skills has driven me toward a career working for a car magazine, such as Motor Trend.

I figure if I work for a prestigious car mag, I could test drive or at least spend a lot of time around cars most people would have to take a second house mortage to buy.

As a journalist, I don't think you'd be able to afford one, however like you pointed out, working of an automotive mag would get you in the driver's seat. But you should be forward that it takes many years to get to that level and not to mention you'd need some technical driving training before they let you be a "tester". But if jornalism is your passion, than I'd prob. follow the exact same route.

You could also start your own publishing/automotive mag.

Good luck.

As a journalist, I don't think you'd be able to afford one, however like you pointed out, working of an automotive mag would get you in the driver's seat. But you should be forward that it takes many years to get to that level and not to mention you'd need some technical driving training before they let you be a "tester". But if jornalism is your passion, than I'd prob. follow the exact same route.

You could also start your own publishing/automotive mag.

Good luck.
I realize this and I do not intend to step out of school with that career right away. Franckly, I'm not sure what exactly I would like to pursue as far as branches of writing, but I do enjoy journalism and writing.

Hi Everybody....

It's not that i don't wanna become rich (hell, who doesn't)
I have allways wanted to build my own High-End Supercar
not because it eventually could bring in ALOT of money but because
i love Supercars and i would love it if i could become famous for my High Performance cars

Cheers
Bo Sørense

P.S.
write to me if there are something