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Mustang GT Vs Camaro SS


landonew
08-03-2003, 12:08 AM
I am 18, and going off to college. My parents have finally broke down and agreed to buy me a car. Given price range among other things i have narrowed it down to a Mustang GT or a Camaro SS. I wont have the funds to modify the car that i get for a while, so i am reliying on stock performance. And while handeling plays a part in my decision, i am truly buying the car for raw power (1/4 mile & 0-60). Am also considering a Firebird. If all things are equal (year model, miles, and features) which will perform better? (Am new to this, so if i made any mistakes i appologize).

V-8Fan
08-03-2003, 12:41 AM
I grew up a Ford fan, and I still like Fords A LOT, but I came to recognize an undeniable truth: for hot-rodding, you can't beat the small-block Chevy. BUT...if I were to choose between a Mustang with a V-8 or a Camaro (or Firebird) I would studiously avoid the later model F-Body cars because so much of the engine is underneath the windshield and dash area. To me, it looks very difficult to work on. In your shoes I would probably just find the best deal on a sharp, appealing car of either pedigree and go with it, but I would be mindful of whatever limitations are inherent to that model. And ease of maintenance would definitely be a point of consideration.

Haha...bet I didn't help you make up your mind one bit! :biggrin2:

Madigon
08-03-2003, 03:56 AM
Waht year are you looking at? Since you said SS I'm guessing the newer bodystyle.. so definitely grab the SS.

The v8 in it is bigger and badder than the GT. The LS1 is pretty similar to the LS6 in corvettes, and I've driven both Gt and Z28 and I liked the Chevy more. Mustangs are still potent, but since you're running stock numbers then go with the Chevy.

I'm disappointed by the syling of the Camaros though. I seriously thinking they could have at least updated the interior before discontnuing the Camaro. Lumina style upholstery, a loud turn signal lever with a soft turn signal tick, the stereo rocks but the dash is huge and bulky, and most of all I really hate the steering wheel. It has no grip in the back for your fingers and wants to slide through my easy grip on a sweaty day.

But youll never see a ford with t-tops... I really like those (after overheating on grapevine 2 times in one day.. you appreciate them a WHOLE lot more. That is, of course, until I put in some skyviews under my roof (just dreaming). Never heard of it done b4...

Twyzz
08-03-2003, 10:24 AM
Fox 1 Body stangs had T-tops. Go with the Camaro, and if anyone on here bitches. hey, at least it's not a honda

BigDanTheMan
08-03-2003, 12:39 PM
my theory is this: you'll need something that chicks will dig, so go ask the girls you know what they think and get that. Unless they say jetta.

landonew
08-03-2003, 02:03 PM
Thanx for all the replys. I was looking at 2002 camaro, and a 2003 GT. I think both cars look nice, but i really like the stangs hood scoup. Was thinking bout a convertable, but read some stats that say it effects the performance slightly. Is that true?

BigDanTheMan
08-03-2003, 02:07 PM
true, perhaps more then slightly - especially regarding handling

GTStang
08-03-2003, 02:16 PM
IF all you care about is 1/4 times 0-60 and nothing else, Just go get a SS its the fastest out of the box and you said you werent gonna mod it. Yes convertibles are slower and dont handle as well. The have extra bracing to make up for the lack of a roof which is were all the strengh of a uni-body car. So the couple hundred extra pounds to slow the car up.

DkShadow
08-03-2003, 03:07 PM
Get the SS. Its faster and has over 60rwhp over a GT, 215-230rwhp compared to 280-315rwhp. If you want to go cheaper, Why not get an LS1 Z28 or Formula/Trans Am? An SS is no different than a Z28 in performance, as a Ram air WS6 is no different compared to a Formula/Trans Am. The parts are a little more expensive but a 4.6s aftermaket leaves little to make power with unless you go FI.

FordsRule03
08-03-2003, 08:02 PM
even though i own a GT i would buy a SS because its faster and more hp. Its like saying should i buy a camero or a SVT cobra?:smokin:

BigDanTheMan
08-03-2003, 09:26 PM
going just for performance, i'd say ss - but i strong believe that the gt is a better car all around. Why don't you try to track down a used bullitt gt?

Los
08-03-2003, 09:32 PM
How is the SS Camaro similar to a Z06?

LS1 < LS6.

:eek7:

DkShadow
08-03-2003, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by Los
How is the SS Camaro similar to a Z06?

LS1 < LS6.

:eek7:

Not the Z06 but the LS6. THe LS6 is basically the same thing as the LS1. You can make your own LS6 conversion for the LS1 buying its heads, cam, and other things. Even some F-bodies from 01-02 received the LS6 block from the Z06 during production. Also not to mention the 02 ZL1 had the LS6 engine as well:wink:

94svt5.0
08-03-2003, 10:09 PM
Well, raw power goes to the ss , if you like barges. Have you considered a 2001 cobra?

landonew
08-03-2003, 10:55 PM
Havent considered the bullit, and dont really have any info on it. Jus thought it was like a regular gt. I will do some research, but in the meantime any info on it would be great. 0-60, hp, 1/4 mile times, ect...
As far as the cobra goes, since i am under 25 i cant afford the insurence. Have to pay for the insurence myself, and insurence for like an SVT is really expensive. Good thought though, actually considered it, but i wouldn't have any money left for gas.

boosted331
08-03-2003, 11:45 PM
LS1 wins hands down for power. 4.6 2V guys are strugging to make over 300 RWHP N/A, and you can basically bolt on heads/cam to an LS1 and make 400+ RWHP. The passenger floor hump sucks and they have a very steep windshield and it is hard to change plugs and headgaskets and whatnot, but it isn't too bad. If you're really going for all out speed, you could have a fox body into the 9's on pump gas for the price of either of those new. :smile:

Carguy393
08-03-2003, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by landonew
Havent considered the bullit, and dont really have any info on it. Jus thought it was like a regular gt. I will do some research, but in the meantime any info on it would be great. 0-60, hp, 1/4 mile times, ect...
As far as the cobra goes, since i am under 25 i cant afford the insurence. Have to pay for the insurence myself, and insurence for like an SVT is really expensive. Good thought though, actually considered it, but i wouldn't have any money left for gas.

And insurance on an SS is Much Less? :eek7:

DkShadow
08-03-2003, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by Carguy393


And insurance on an SS is Much Less? :eek7:

Seriously :eek7: :sly: :eek7: :sly: :sly: :sly:

I was paying around $1000 in payments /w insurance a month on my SS. So it is NOT cheaper.:wink:

Madigon
08-04-2003, 12:09 AM
Hey DK...

Did you make that little spray w/ the bobble head? You know we were just talking about the LS1<LS6... you have a vette engine for the LS1 Alma Mater there. Just thought it was amusing...

Madigon
08-04-2003, 12:14 AM
Oh ya those ZL1's are rare and fast! I'd love to see one in person (saw one on ebay [phase 1 - 350hp] for about 85k...) they are mean!

Ford is all american. Not just mullet wearing Rednecks, but those Mullet-shaven white collar peeps too. And it was the first pony car of the 4 (Chevy, Pontiac, Mercury, Ford), and it is the last (I dunno about the T/A's though). At least Ford keeps its fanbase going, even with a V6 model...

100 years baby!

landonew
08-04-2003, 02:19 AM
About the insurance. I guess insurance varies depending on where you live, but i know that I can't touch a cobra for much less than 800-900 a month depending on deductable. For an eighteen year old who works PART time and is going to school, that is a hell of a lot of money! Anyway, what is a fox body? Thanx for any info on that. 9's would be pretty impressive!

Los
08-04-2003, 12:32 PM
If all else fails, put a Corvette motor in it!

:dogpile:

HiFlow5 0
08-04-2003, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by landonew
About the insurance. I guess insurance varies depending on where you live, but i know that I can't touch a cobra for much less than 800-900 a month depending on deductable. For an eighteen year old who works PART time and is going to school, that is a hell of a lot of money! Anyway, what is a fox body? Thanx for any info on that. 9's would be pretty impressive!
Fox, is the platform the Mustang was built on from 79-93. The Fox Body platform can also be found on the Fairmont, Futura, Mercury Zephyr, and Mercury Z-7.

DeViL
08-05-2003, 12:54 AM
.......Don't buy a fox body there are enough of those in the world.
Now if you could find a Bullitt with a reasonable price I would go for that. It's hardly any better then a GT and the Camaro SS will still outrun it, but you have a car that is really nice looking inside and out. The exhaust, stock on those cars sound really tough as well. Plus it will be a like a collectors item. If you can't find a Bullitt, well then Camaro SS.

Los
08-07-2003, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by DeViL
.......Don't buy a fox body there are enough of those in the world.
Now if you could find a Bullitt with a reasonable price I would go for that. It's hardly any better then a GT and the Camaro SS will still outrun it, but you have a car that is really nice looking inside and out. The exhaust, stock on those cars sound really tough as well. Plus it will be a like a collectors item. If you can't find a Bullitt, well then Camaro SS.
I'll sell you mine!

:bigthumb:

Titan
08-07-2003, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by landonew
I am 18, and going off to college. My parents have finally broke down and agreed to buy me a car. Given price range among other things i have narrowed it down to a Mustang GT or a Camaro SS. I wont have the funds to modify the car that i get for a while, so i am reliying on stock performance. And while handeling plays a part in my decision, i am truly buying the car for raw power (1/4 mile & 0-60). Am also considering a Firebird. If all things are equal (year model, miles, and features) which will perform better? (Am new to this, so if i made any mistakes i appologize).

If I were you I would just do more research on the cars and test drive your two choices then go from there.

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