New RSX.. post ya thoughts...
LakeMountLude
03-27-2001, 02:23 PM
post what you think about the rsx.. everything bout it... i think it is okay.. i dont like the fact that they are trying to make cars look more "futuristic"... i like the interior and boy do i like that engine :) although they should of stayed with an 2.2L an had it put out even more than 220 hp :).. the vtec-i is lookin purty sweet tho...:cool:
texan
03-27-2001, 03:04 PM
I think the decision to discontinue the Integra and Prelude nameplates made complete sense, since the two cars really needed to be merged to make the very best sporty fwd coupe possible. I love my Prelude, but I definitely would have bought a model that slotted nicely between the Integra and Prelude (posessing both the 'Teg's light weight and slightly better balance, with the better solidity and refinement of the Prelude). I honestly think both cars designs and attributes were hampered just a bit because Honda didn't want them competing too directly with one another. Basically, although I hate to see the Prelude name go, this new car will be a winner for sure if they don't hamper it's modability (as they did with the new Civic) and please, PLEASE!, give us an R version within a year :).
VTECelude
03-27-2001, 05:05 PM
i have to be honest here when i say that i love the new rs-x. i really want one. i like the way the new interior looks with the blue and sivler. besides the fact that it has 200 hp vtec engine in a little car with a 6spd tranny.
GOD
03-27-2001, 05:33 PM
I still think i rather have an ITR :D The rs-x is just going to be everywhere like mustangs and civics . Its just not going to be same with out the ITR :(
enzo@af
03-27-2001, 05:44 PM
~200HP + Good looks + Cool interior + the refinement you have to expect from the evolution the integra has gone through = :D
LakeMountLude
03-27-2001, 05:46 PM
yeah the thing I am worried about is they are going to make them too cheap and they are going to be everywhere like those pesky civics... that is why i hope at least that they make a slightly modified r version or something liek that ... cause i cant stand to see too many of them around... i think honda should of made a sports car and then acura make the rsx just for a lil bit of variety and competition... ya know?
-=duSTin=-
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matt
05-15-2001, 08:38 PM
Can you imagine this thing when the aftermarket gets their tight grip on it? Your gonna have RS-X's putting out a good 320 HP easy. TQ will still suck, but thats an 4 banger for yah. It looks pretty sweet. A nice tight package with a 6 spd tranny and 220 HP out of the box. Sign me up.
verboom
05-15-2001, 09:19 PM
I don't care how good the replaement is, I WANT a prelude, and I want one brand new right off the lot. I want them to make them for another 5 years, because I won't be able to afford one till then. The prelude, in my opinion, is the best car Honda has and ever will make. The day I learned that they were being discontinued, I felt like somebody kicked me in the gut, killed my dog, ransacked my house and stole everything I owned. Now I'm gonna have to settle for some used one. And yes, I know I'm absolutely nuts, but it is the one dream car I've had that I really had planned on getting.
justin@af
05-15-2001, 09:58 PM
i think its a car to be wrecken with, the type-s that is, the base model with only 140HP :silly: i think that'll be a joke, but the 200HP type s will be a new competitor for my lude.
verboom
05-26-2001, 05:10 PM
Hey there, news flash. The prelude is not being replaced with the RS-X. Only the integra. I was talking to the guys at the local Honda dealership, and they say that the 'lude is being redesigned, not discontinued for next year. AND, on the Honda website, they hve an article all about the RS-X and how it replaces the Inegra, but not once does it mention the prelude. If you guys have better info than that, feel free to speak up.
texan
05-26-2001, 07:14 PM
By replace we mean that the RSX Type S will be the only new Honda car in the size/price/performance range of the discontinued Prelude. Yes it's doubtful the Prelude will never come back (why abandon such a recognizable and respected nameplate), but they have stopped building them and have unveiled no plans to replace the outgoing model just yet.
Seeing as how Honda wants to increase profitability and use fewer platforms/engines for their future cars, the Prelude was bound to get the axe. It's engine and drivetrain are virtually unique to it, it's chassis is unusable for any other model, and the 5th generation car never sold more than 15,000 units a year in the States. Compare that with the 600,000+ Focus and Civic sales this past year and you have a recipe for lost money and short life spans. Whatever though, I just thank them that they continued with the 5th gen for as long as they did, obviously the buying public just doesn't understand what a great car it is. Fine by me, makes my car more unique.
Seeing as how Honda wants to increase profitability and use fewer platforms/engines for their future cars, the Prelude was bound to get the axe. It's engine and drivetrain are virtually unique to it, it's chassis is unusable for any other model, and the 5th generation car never sold more than 15,000 units a year in the States. Compare that with the 600,000+ Focus and Civic sales this past year and you have a recipe for lost money and short life spans. Whatever though, I just thank them that they continued with the 5th gen for as long as they did, obviously the buying public just doesn't understand what a great car it is. Fine by me, makes my car more unique.
verboom
05-28-2001, 05:28 PM
How clear do I have to make this? THE PRELUDE IS NOT BEING DISCONTINUED. New, redesigned prelude next year. No axe! They are keeping the prelude. Maybe you don't get to have them in texas, but here is the great white north, we've been promised a new redesigned PRELUDE for next year. Where are you getting your info anyway? This forum is the only place I've heard that they are being discontinued.
the923
05-28-2001, 05:49 PM
All I have to say about the new RSX is this... *YAWN*
Do I have to buy a S2000 or NSX to get a Honda/Acura that doesn't look like a slightly modified Civic/CL/TL shape? :rolleyes:
It seems as though only one non-sports-car Honda will be available in a few years with your choice of wheelbase, name badging number of doors and engine... but the car is the same.
At least the Prelude looked like a Prelude and not like a two-door Civic coupe. :confused:
I certainly hope that the Type-R comes out with some distictive styling cues that separate it from every other blandlystyled Honda product... or maybe Honda wants to push me into waiting for the 350Z after all...? :devil:
Do I have to buy a S2000 or NSX to get a Honda/Acura that doesn't look like a slightly modified Civic/CL/TL shape? :rolleyes:
It seems as though only one non-sports-car Honda will be available in a few years with your choice of wheelbase, name badging number of doors and engine... but the car is the same.
At least the Prelude looked like a Prelude and not like a two-door Civic coupe. :confused:
I certainly hope that the Type-R comes out with some distictive styling cues that separate it from every other blandlystyled Honda product... or maybe Honda wants to push me into waiting for the 350Z after all...? :devil:
R35
05-29-2001, 05:29 PM
Verboom you are right about the "replacing the Prelude" issue. However AF isn't the only site talking aobut it.
http://forums.caranddriver.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/001037.html
http://www.geocities.com/busybeetoys/
http://home.netvigator.com/~europa/Main_Menu.htm
Have all talked about the car in the past month or so, not to mention the newstand magazines.
It's a wait and see kinda thing right now. Me I would take a Skyline over any car in the world, but that's my choice. Since what car you can get is limited to what is available in your general location (US) for me and I don't plan on spending $90K for a $50K car I have to wait and see what car sparks my interest. The RSX for the $20K range is worthy of that, more than the aging Prelude.
However the best may be yet to come with the new Z from Nissan and the RX-8 from Mazada:sun:
I think we are all lucky to be where we are:sun:
http://forums.caranddriver.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/001037.html
http://www.geocities.com/busybeetoys/
http://home.netvigator.com/~europa/Main_Menu.htm
Have all talked about the car in the past month or so, not to mention the newstand magazines.
It's a wait and see kinda thing right now. Me I would take a Skyline over any car in the world, but that's my choice. Since what car you can get is limited to what is available in your general location (US) for me and I don't plan on spending $90K for a $50K car I have to wait and see what car sparks my interest. The RSX for the $20K range is worthy of that, more than the aging Prelude.
However the best may be yet to come with the new Z from Nissan and the RX-8 from Mazada:sun:
I think we are all lucky to be where we are:sun:
matt
06-04-2001, 08:13 PM
Until I read an article from Honda on a new Prelude, my guess is they will discontinue the Prelude. I don't think there is a big enough market to support it.
Buckwild
06-05-2001, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by verboom
How clear do I have to make this? THE PRELUDE IS NOT BEING DISCONTINUED. New, redesigned prelude next year. No axe! They are keeping the prelude. Maybe you don't get to have them in texas, but here is the great white north, we've been promised a new redesigned PRELUDE for next year. Where are you getting your info anyway? This forum is the only place I've heard that they are being discontinued.
I wouldn't put two cents worth into what any local Honda dealership tells you about the fate of the Prelude. Most of the people there are morons, and they're the smart ones.
Hondas/Acuras website does have a nice report on the RS-X (is there a hyphen in there?) and you're right, it doesn't say anything about the RS-X replacing the Prelude. But by the same token, it doesn't say it isn't replacing the Prelude either.
I think most of this is all speculation about the demise of the Prelude nameplate. I'll believe it when I read it on Hondas website.
How clear do I have to make this? THE PRELUDE IS NOT BEING DISCONTINUED. New, redesigned prelude next year. No axe! They are keeping the prelude. Maybe you don't get to have them in texas, but here is the great white north, we've been promised a new redesigned PRELUDE for next year. Where are you getting your info anyway? This forum is the only place I've heard that they are being discontinued.
I wouldn't put two cents worth into what any local Honda dealership tells you about the fate of the Prelude. Most of the people there are morons, and they're the smart ones.
Hondas/Acuras website does have a nice report on the RS-X (is there a hyphen in there?) and you're right, it doesn't say anything about the RS-X replacing the Prelude. But by the same token, it doesn't say it isn't replacing the Prelude either.
I think most of this is all speculation about the demise of the Prelude nameplate. I'll believe it when I read it on Hondas website.
DVSNCYNIKL
06-05-2001, 08:07 AM
Here's my 2 cents.
The Future of the Prelude
Right now that is a big question mark. However, at this point based on what everyone has been saying, it looks like the Prelude era is coming to an end. Well, unfortunately, but not entirely surprisingly, money is the reason. The problem is that there's such an overlap in the sports car market between the Prelude and it's smaller, older, but better selling Acura cousin, the Integra. The Integra and Prelude use entirely different platforms, while both are so similar in terms of market perception. Both are front engine, front wheel drive, 4-cylinder Honda sports cars. The Prelude base is similar in price to the Integra GSR while the Prelude Type SH is similar in price to the Integra Type R. In North America, they draw the same type of buyers to their respective dealers.
With the red-hot high-image Honda S2000 roadster coming to Honda dealers, thereby establishing it's high-end sports car segment in Honda's sports car line-up, and Honda having upgraded the Civic's sports car status with the Civic Coupe SiR (Si in the states,) one gets the feeling the Prelude is getting crowded out of Honda's sports car line-up. The Accord Coupe having recently undergone a sportier, flashier re-design doesn't help. Shame, as so many N. American Prelude owners would agree, the Prelude is in a market segment perfect for those wanting a stylish, unique, mid-price level sports coupe, but don't want (or can't afford) a high-priced 2-seat roadster, the S2000; don't want the sense of not-quite-mature-I'm-still-in-college image of the Integra; don't want a large family sedan-based coupe, the Accord; and also don't want a souped-up Civic.
What's to result from the upcoming "Inter-Lude" is likely to be a combination of personalities, a size somewhere between the 2 cars, with both performance and luxury attributes. It's seems certain it's going to be badged an Acura in North America, without either of the Integra or Prelude designations, but going with the now-standard alpha-numeric names. (The "IL?") There were initial rumors of a S2000 based platform, but now I'm hearing a Civic-based platform. (wow, that's a big difference.)
The Prelude? Well, if the recent rumors are true, the Prelude's lineage will be ending at its 5-th Generation. Of course, there's always the upcoming Acura "Inter-Lude" to look forward to, but to Prelude fans, it still represents the discontinuation of a beloved car.
The Future of the Prelude
Right now that is a big question mark. However, at this point based on what everyone has been saying, it looks like the Prelude era is coming to an end. Well, unfortunately, but not entirely surprisingly, money is the reason. The problem is that there's such an overlap in the sports car market between the Prelude and it's smaller, older, but better selling Acura cousin, the Integra. The Integra and Prelude use entirely different platforms, while both are so similar in terms of market perception. Both are front engine, front wheel drive, 4-cylinder Honda sports cars. The Prelude base is similar in price to the Integra GSR while the Prelude Type SH is similar in price to the Integra Type R. In North America, they draw the same type of buyers to their respective dealers.
With the red-hot high-image Honda S2000 roadster coming to Honda dealers, thereby establishing it's high-end sports car segment in Honda's sports car line-up, and Honda having upgraded the Civic's sports car status with the Civic Coupe SiR (Si in the states,) one gets the feeling the Prelude is getting crowded out of Honda's sports car line-up. The Accord Coupe having recently undergone a sportier, flashier re-design doesn't help. Shame, as so many N. American Prelude owners would agree, the Prelude is in a market segment perfect for those wanting a stylish, unique, mid-price level sports coupe, but don't want (or can't afford) a high-priced 2-seat roadster, the S2000; don't want the sense of not-quite-mature-I'm-still-in-college image of the Integra; don't want a large family sedan-based coupe, the Accord; and also don't want a souped-up Civic.
What's to result from the upcoming "Inter-Lude" is likely to be a combination of personalities, a size somewhere between the 2 cars, with both performance and luxury attributes. It's seems certain it's going to be badged an Acura in North America, without either of the Integra or Prelude designations, but going with the now-standard alpha-numeric names. (The "IL?") There were initial rumors of a S2000 based platform, but now I'm hearing a Civic-based platform. (wow, that's a big difference.)
The Prelude? Well, if the recent rumors are true, the Prelude's lineage will be ending at its 5-th Generation. Of course, there's always the upcoming Acura "Inter-Lude" to look forward to, but to Prelude fans, it still represents the discontinuation of a beloved car.
gang$tarr
06-07-2001, 04:11 PM
i think there's a big enough market to support it, around here there are soooo many preludes, there are as many preludes here as like honda accords....
and god you said that you don't wanna see RSXs everywhere, you'd rather have an integra...... I see soo many integra's everyday i'm sick of them.......
oh btw god, are you still gunna get the Lexus IS300??
and god you said that you don't wanna see RSXs everywhere, you'd rather have an integra...... I see soo many integra's everyday i'm sick of them.......
oh btw god, are you still gunna get the Lexus IS300??
Adam
06-07-2001, 04:23 PM
i love it.. i hope to buy it when I get the money.. and when I get my liscense
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