Newbie Need Help!

well as you all know i'm a newbie
and i know i can look in other threads for this type of help but i'd prefer if you could help me in my own thread hope its not much of a hassle for you guys thx ahead

well i might get a used civic 95-98 sedan

say i get a non vtec model like dx or lx etc..
can i put a vtec engine in?? if so what would i need to do?

also whats a good vtec engine to put in my car?
i don't wanna turbo i want a reliable all engine car
daily driver

also if it isn't to much to ask can i get a list of vtec engine that would be easy to swap in?

i'm biased.....:tongue:
i see alot of b-series swapped into that style of civic....
so it must not to too much $$$

so what you looking to spend??

you can get a b16(~160hp@fly) for ~$1000
or you can get a b18c1(~180hp@fly) for ~$3000

others????

are those vtec?
i guess i can spend in the 1-3k price range for an engine

yea....they both have vtec.....

how much torque do each of them have?

and which one would u say is better?

thx a lot for the help :bigthumb:

i'm going to say the b18c1 is better because i own one!! lol
anyway..
the b16= ~111ft-lbs torque
the b18c=~128 ft-lbs torquehere's an example (http://www.hybridautomotive.com/parts/swaps.html) ...but there are so many other places....just have to look!:bigthumb:

how fast is your 0-60? how fast would mine be?
can that engine fit in a 96-00 ex sedan?
if i bought the complete swap thing would i need anythign extra?
like sleeves suspension?

my best 60 ft. was a 2.4
that's bone stock, and my first time racing....
but with some bfg drag radials, you can get that down to 2 seconds

now you'd have this motor in a car that is 200lbs lighter...

that link above... has the b18c1 swap for $3100 and here's the quote from their site

"Complete changeover package. Engine, transmission, mounts, axles, engine accessories, linkage, ECU, wiring, and all manifolds. Optional LSD transmission. Direct bolt in for 92-95 Civic, 94-01 Integra. Semi-direct bolt in for 96+ Civics. Will bolt into 88-91 Civics and 91-93 Integras with proper engine mount kit."

suspension??
i'd plan on upgrading that anyway....
~$300 for some coilovers and ~$300 for struts....

thanks alot

whats "LSD transmission" i'm a real newb when it comes to this lol

"Semi-direct bolt in for 96+ Civics" - does this mean it will be difficult to do the swap?

how much time does it take you to get to 60mph?

also if it isn't to much to ask how much do you think it be for me to get the engine put in?

Limited Slip Differential
its basically like posi-traction for front wheel drive...
prevents torque steer, which will happen with this motor!!

swap shouldn't be 'difficult', may just have to buy a mounting kit(again...relatively cheap) here's a good place for them... http://www.hasport.com/

0-60 takes approx. 7 seconds in my car...

i've never done a swap... but if you are gonna have it done at a shop... then expect to pay at least $60/hour for the job...
basically, i'd have another $1000 saved up for the install if you are not doing it yourself or getting hooked up...

hth

hmm so i better save up 4k
do you know anything about bodykits?
and if i do get one i should get rims before i get a bodykit right?
about how much do rims go for?
how fast is your quarter mile? stock?
thx ahead

i might have to just go with the b16

also what all would you fix on your car like suspension? brakes? exhaust? cold air intake?

i've got all that except brakes.....not a bad idea... add that to the list...LOL
suspension is not installed tho...:frown:
i have skunk2 coilovers, and kyb agx adjustable struts...

would i need a new exhaust system?
about what size rims would i need?
how fast was your qtr mile? stock if you remember
would a body kit add a considerable amount of weight?

lol do you have aim or something so we could communicate much easier?

ya... new exhaust....
jdm 4-1 header $400
2.5 inch cat $175
then exhaust of your choice... $300-$500

i personally would never put anything over 16 inch wheels on any honda powered car... 15's are fine!

MY stock quarter mile was 15.8...(i beat a mustang GT:thefinger)
the car itself is a 15.5 second car...
and i've seen people hit LOW 15's in stock gs-r's (15.2 - 15.3)

haha...no shit....i do have aim( see the little "AIM buddy" below!!)....i'm cool with this tho.....
i'm just doin shit around the house, and checking back at the comp. now and then.. (just got done cleanin' the grill :iceslolan)

whats a header?? and what does it do?
does it give a good hp gain?

header is where the exhaust gases exit through...
yeah....you'd see maybe 2-4 hp increase with that header over a stock header.....
but the header from the D16(civic motor) will not bolt up to the B18C1 or B16....so you'd have to buy one...

what type of header would i have to buy???
and will the stock tires be ok for the new engine?
and about how much for breaks if you know?
oh another thing is the gsr engine OBD1 or OBD2

any b-series header will work
stock tires will be fine.... probably 14 inches....i'd look for some 15 inchers......
and yeah...i have no idea about the brakes....
94-95 gsr is obd1
96+ is obd2

so i'd have to get a 96++ gser engine right?
do those still cost around 3k?
cause doesn't the 96-00 civics have odb2

man....i'm gonna be honest with ya... i know NOTHING about civics....
so i cant answer those.......sorry.....

my bad my internet stopped working for a while

97gsr pretty much covered it all. As far as what engine in what Civic, it goes like this. The engine has to be of the same year or newer for legal purposes and does'nt matter if it's a Teg or Civic motor. Yes, not having to mess with OBD conversions saves alot of hassels so if you get the right engine, by legal standards, there should be no conversion needed. Since you're a n00b at this I will assume that you want to do this as cost effective as possible so forget about most of the brand names 97gsr posted seeing as they are some of the best parts out there. There are cheaper parts performance parts. As long as you get the car and the engine, high priced, high quality parts can wait.

So for the new engine, i won't need a better exhaust system or anything?? what would i need to get with the new engine so that everything runs smoothly? and how can i tell what year the engine was?

There are guys that like the JDM performance but not the loud noise or look of most Honda's today. I know a guy that has a JDM ITR motor and everything on the car is OEM JDM except for the fact that it's not RHD. He modified the OEM exhaust flange to mat up to a JDM ITR cat. This does not damage the motor but simply restrict flow and hp.

There are three round seals w/ numbers on them on the head just above the exhaust manifold. The first seal has the last two numbers of the year of production. I'll try and find a pic I posted a while back.

So i won't need a new exhaust system for my 96-00 civic sedan?

Needed??? No. MOdification to match evrything together??? Yes.

so the b18 i'm thinking about getting isn't vtec right? is there anyway i can make it vtec?

sorry man. gotta swap out your engine. or do the frankenstein thing. it would be sweet for you if you lived here in japan man. $3000 for a '93 vtec integra. cheap parts

if i do a b18 swap will i still have air condition if not i'm thinking about a b16

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my friend did an engine swap on his 1987 accord LX-i. He put in a B16A engine, well, in the process of it. It's all mounted in and he just needs to do the wiring.