S2000 Owners!!
David Kang
07-24-2003, 02:29 AM
Hey I was just wondering what kind of mods you guys put on your S2000s. This is what I have so far.
Apexi T66 turbo.
AEM cold air intake
VeilSide single titanium teardrop exhaust system.
Spoon ECU
Spoon Carbon Fiber air Duct.
Spoon S2000 70mm Throttle Body
Spoon S2000 Head Gasket
Spoon S2000 Racing Camshafts
Spoon Drive Shafts
Spoon Disk Brakes
Toyama Turbo Timer
Apexi Intercolders
NX 50 shot nitrous oxide
Apexi WS Dampers
Thats about it. I'm so broke right now its not even funny. I don't know what to do on my car next. I work in my uncle's shop so I get paid well enough to spend around 5 thousand dollars more. Please tell me what you guys have in your ride and give me some pointers if you guys have any. Thank you:biggrin: :bloated:
Apexi T66 turbo.
AEM cold air intake
VeilSide single titanium teardrop exhaust system.
Spoon ECU
Spoon Carbon Fiber air Duct.
Spoon S2000 70mm Throttle Body
Spoon S2000 Head Gasket
Spoon S2000 Racing Camshafts
Spoon Drive Shafts
Spoon Disk Brakes
Toyama Turbo Timer
Apexi Intercolders
NX 50 shot nitrous oxide
Apexi WS Dampers
Thats about it. I'm so broke right now its not even funny. I don't know what to do on my car next. I work in my uncle's shop so I get paid well enough to spend around 5 thousand dollars more. Please tell me what you guys have in your ride and give me some pointers if you guys have any. Thank you:biggrin: :bloated:
SIIKprice
07-24-2003, 04:55 PM
hey dude, drop the turbo and get the vortec SC. how u like how light and loud that teardrop is dude?
David Kang
07-24-2003, 06:20 PM
The titanium teardrop is very light, the last time I check it was like 6 pounds. Stock exhaust system for the S2000 was about 47 p or 48 pounds. The loudness of the exhaust is unbelieveable. No jk when I tell you that I can barely hear my friends car when we are driving together. He owns a Rsx-type S. I like my turbo better than the superchargers. The reason is because superchargers give constant power to the engine but the turbo takes time spooling up. I guess I like the turbo better because I like the feeling when the boost meter is at peak and I can hear the beautiful sound of the turbo. Its really great. :dogpile:
SIIKprice
07-24-2003, 06:55 PM
yea, i guess the only thing i dont like about it is the lag. and man, im gonna save up and buy a veilslide body kit. that shit is awesome, its $2,200 though. i dont think im gonna get a supercharger or turbo for mine. just a massive intercooler so people will think i do.
lol
lol
David Kang
07-24-2003, 10:26 PM
If you gonna trick people into thinking that you have a turbo in your car. I heard about this speaker that makes these turbo sounds at a push of a button for like 200. =P
blasian_man
07-24-2003, 10:29 PM
i've seen pictures of a s2000 with a carbon fiber hardtop, i think its by mugen, does anyone have one? i'd like to see more pics of it
WongGahming
07-27-2003, 08:35 PM
hey does the spoon head gasket really do alot? i was actually thinking about getting it. i want to try and go all motor to get me over 300whp.
I almost bought the veilside tt exhaust, i hear its about as loud as not having an exhaust at all. and even with the silencer its painfull. not the best thing for hearing yourself think while you drive.
the veilside kit is nice, but it still is fiberglass, try and find something urithane its more sturdy and able to take a bit more abuse.
yes mugen makes a cf hood, so does topsecret. and i belive one more company. you should contact the guys at evolution autosports they deal alot in S2000 and may be able to help you out. www.evolutionautosports.com they are the shop that work on pretty much all of the s2000's in my area. very good guys with very good prices.
I almost bought the veilside tt exhaust, i hear its about as loud as not having an exhaust at all. and even with the silencer its painfull. not the best thing for hearing yourself think while you drive.
the veilside kit is nice, but it still is fiberglass, try and find something urithane its more sturdy and able to take a bit more abuse.
yes mugen makes a cf hood, so does topsecret. and i belive one more company. you should contact the guys at evolution autosports they deal alot in S2000 and may be able to help you out. www.evolutionautosports.com they are the shop that work on pretty much all of the s2000's in my area. very good guys with very good prices.
David Kang
07-27-2003, 11:36 PM
Yea tankz a lot. The spoon gasket doesn't do a lot but I feel safer that it is a better one then the stock one. Cause I really push my car hard and it helps me a lot. Yea that VeilSide TT exhuast is loud. The cops pulled me over like 4 times. Didn't give me a ticket though. =) I think if the sound of your exhaust is too loud or something like that they will give you a ticket.:loser: I'm trying to get a Mugan carbon fiber hard top right now. Its 5,000 dollars. TOo expensive...if I get that then I won't be able to get anything else. So I'm still thinking about it.
WongGahming
07-28-2003, 11:50 AM
i heard that the spoon gasket increases the compression of the engine MORE like only .3 though i thought that would have affected performance some. isn't it thinner then the stock gasket? and yeah thats alot of money for a dang hood have you checked out www.gtp.com? they have some good price breaks
DensoSupra
07-29-2003, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by blasian_man
i've seen pictures of a s2000 with a carbon fiber hardtop, i think its by mugen, does anyone have one? i'd like to see more pics of it
Yes, mugen makes one. It's $5,000. http://www.kingmotorsports.com/images/products/69000-XGS-K0S0_3.jpg
i've seen pictures of a s2000 with a carbon fiber hardtop, i think its by mugen, does anyone have one? i'd like to see more pics of it
Yes, mugen makes one. It's $5,000. http://www.kingmotorsports.com/images/products/69000-XGS-K0S0_3.jpg
David Kang
07-30-2003, 10:03 PM
yea that was the one that I was talking about. It looks really nice but too expensive. =( I might get it but I might not. Just save it for a later time.
DensoSupra
07-31-2003, 10:10 AM
Well they also make an FRP version. I believe that was $3,000 but I'm not sure.
JD@af
08-07-2003, 03:22 AM
I wouldn't ever recommend a Vortec SC over just about any turbo system. You have made the better choice. Also, very refreshing to read about your car, and that you have stuck to power mods, not appearance mods. That is the way to go, IMO. Oh and by the way, I wouldn’t buy into the aftermarket head gasket deal. A Honda factory head gasket from an F20C is good for any typical to aggressive turbo application. There are 400 whp turbo Hondas that use factory head gaskets.
If you've got another $5K or so burning a hole in your pocket, I would look into one or more of the following:
• Engine rebuild. I don’t know how much boost you run, or how much you plan on running, but a T66 tells me that you’ve got a lot of boost. Don’t put your faith on the standard internals of your F20C. Take a look at this guy’s site about his S2000 turbo (http://www.chrisdrivesafastcar.com/), and the multiple rebuilds he has been through. If you stay with forced induction, it is most likely just a matter of time until you will need one.
• Better turbo header. HyTech Exhaust (http://www.hytechexhaust.com/) is probably your best bet here. You don't specify what your current header is like, but until aftermarket VATN systems become available, this will probably be your best bet for reducing your spool time. And their headers are by far the nicest-looking turbo headers I have ever seen that are on anything resembling a mass produced item (please note that the fastest FWD Honda in the world, Steph Papadakis AEM Civic uses a HyTech header – it is on the right below).
http://www.hytechexhaust.com/images/honda/hturbo.jpg http://www.hytechexhaust.com/images/honda/hoverview.jpg
• Air to liquid intercooling system. If you’re in California, car theft at least should be a concern. Therefore, a front-mounted, easy to spot air-to-air intercooler core makes your car much more of a target. An air to liquid system, though it adds more parts and a higher degree of mechanical complexity, is more effective at reducing your intake temps, and the front mounted oil cooler you will be using for the system looks like a radiator so it won’t tip off anyone that you have a turbo system. Here you can take a look at some Spearco Universal Air/Liquid Intercoolers (http://www.turboneticsinc.com/liquid.html).
There is debate, even among turbo system experts like Corky Bell, about which type of intercooling system is the better way to go. I don't think you will be able to find a definitive answer. It is about personal preference, and applicability of each option. If it is doable with your S2000, then that is a viable alternative.
If you've got another $5K or so burning a hole in your pocket, I would look into one or more of the following:
• Engine rebuild. I don’t know how much boost you run, or how much you plan on running, but a T66 tells me that you’ve got a lot of boost. Don’t put your faith on the standard internals of your F20C. Take a look at this guy’s site about his S2000 turbo (http://www.chrisdrivesafastcar.com/), and the multiple rebuilds he has been through. If you stay with forced induction, it is most likely just a matter of time until you will need one.
• Better turbo header. HyTech Exhaust (http://www.hytechexhaust.com/) is probably your best bet here. You don't specify what your current header is like, but until aftermarket VATN systems become available, this will probably be your best bet for reducing your spool time. And their headers are by far the nicest-looking turbo headers I have ever seen that are on anything resembling a mass produced item (please note that the fastest FWD Honda in the world, Steph Papadakis AEM Civic uses a HyTech header – it is on the right below).
http://www.hytechexhaust.com/images/honda/hturbo.jpg http://www.hytechexhaust.com/images/honda/hoverview.jpg
• Air to liquid intercooling system. If you’re in California, car theft at least should be a concern. Therefore, a front-mounted, easy to spot air-to-air intercooler core makes your car much more of a target. An air to liquid system, though it adds more parts and a higher degree of mechanical complexity, is more effective at reducing your intake temps, and the front mounted oil cooler you will be using for the system looks like a radiator so it won’t tip off anyone that you have a turbo system. Here you can take a look at some Spearco Universal Air/Liquid Intercoolers (http://www.turboneticsinc.com/liquid.html).
There is debate, even among turbo system experts like Corky Bell, about which type of intercooling system is the better way to go. I don't think you will be able to find a definitive answer. It is about personal preference, and applicability of each option. If it is doable with your S2000, then that is a viable alternative.
David Kang
08-07-2003, 03:40 AM
WOW thanks for all the information. I'm checking out some of the websites that you gave me and these are some great info. That chris guy really has a nice S2K. I really love his carbon radiator panals. Thoes look great. Thanks again for all the info and when I get a Scanner I will be sure 2 put up some of my pictures up there. =)
JD@af
08-07-2003, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by David Kang
WOW thanks for all the information. I'm checking out some of the websites that you gave me and these are some great info. That chris guy really has a nice S2K. I really love his carbon radiator panals. Thoes look great. Thanks again for all the info and when I get a Scanner I will be sure 2 put up some of my pictures up there. =) Great. Glad to help.
How much boost are you running?
WOW thanks for all the information. I'm checking out some of the websites that you gave me and these are some great info. That chris guy really has a nice S2K. I really love his carbon radiator panals. Thoes look great. Thanks again for all the info and when I get a Scanner I will be sure 2 put up some of my pictures up there. =) Great. Glad to help.
How much boost are you running?
David Kang
08-07-2003, 01:40 PM
I'm currently running 22psi of boost. I'm thinking about taking off the 50 shot nitrous because I never use it. And do any of you guys know a good drift suspension setup for the S2K??? I wanna see if the S2K is driftable. =) I have been into drifting for a very long time but never got the chance to find out how to set the suspension for drifting. If anyone knows please tell me!! =) :eek7: too much G-force:eek7: :sly: :eek7: :loser:
JD@af
08-07-2003, 08:53 PM
:eek7: :eek7: 22 lbs?!?!?! :sly: :sly:
Yeah, I think that answers your question. I'd save up that money for an engine rebuild. Being able to run that kind of boost with a stock bottom end (which includes 11:1 compression in an F20C) is verging on unprecedented. Using a thicker head gasket to lower your compression ratio (I assume this is what your Spoon head gasket does?) is really not the most effective way to enable your engine to handle additional boost pressure.
Have you carefully dyno tuned your engine and turbo system? What kind of mods are you using for fuel management? In spite of that, I am going to make the bold statement that your engine is most likely a ticking time bomb. Engines (including Honda engines) can need rebuilding from less than one third of the boost you are running (my GS-R engine was pretty badly wrecked - cylinder compression completely out of whack, at least one blown valve seat, burning one quart of SYNTHETIC oil every 200 miles - from running a JRSC at just the standard 6 psi.. though I did make the mistake of replacing my spark plugs with stock units, rather than going a couple heat ranges colder as I should have). If it's working out for you, more power to you; but I am going to insist that you are very lucky if your engine does survive that kind of abuse without sustaining damage.
Yeah, I think that answers your question. I'd save up that money for an engine rebuild. Being able to run that kind of boost with a stock bottom end (which includes 11:1 compression in an F20C) is verging on unprecedented. Using a thicker head gasket to lower your compression ratio (I assume this is what your Spoon head gasket does?) is really not the most effective way to enable your engine to handle additional boost pressure.
Have you carefully dyno tuned your engine and turbo system? What kind of mods are you using for fuel management? In spite of that, I am going to make the bold statement that your engine is most likely a ticking time bomb. Engines (including Honda engines) can need rebuilding from less than one third of the boost you are running (my GS-R engine was pretty badly wrecked - cylinder compression completely out of whack, at least one blown valve seat, burning one quart of SYNTHETIC oil every 200 miles - from running a JRSC at just the standard 6 psi.. though I did make the mistake of replacing my spark plugs with stock units, rather than going a couple heat ranges colder as I should have). If it's working out for you, more power to you; but I am going to insist that you are very lucky if your engine does survive that kind of abuse without sustaining damage.
NSX
08-08-2003, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by David Kang
I wanna see if the S2K is driftable. =) I have been into drifting for a very long time but never got the chance to find out how to set the suspension for drifting. If anyone knows please tell me!! =) :eek7: too much G-force:eek7: :sly: :eek7: :loser:
Well, Spoon Sports has a drifting configuration for the S2000. Their computer is configured in such a way that max acceleration is achievable through 3 000 - 6 000 rpm (ideal drifiting speeds). But you lose out in top-end hp, but I guess you don't mind that?
hehe
I wanna see if the S2K is driftable. =) I have been into drifting for a very long time but never got the chance to find out how to set the suspension for drifting. If anyone knows please tell me!! =) :eek7: too much G-force:eek7: :sly: :eek7: :loser:
Well, Spoon Sports has a drifting configuration for the S2000. Their computer is configured in such a way that max acceleration is achievable through 3 000 - 6 000 rpm (ideal drifiting speeds). But you lose out in top-end hp, but I guess you don't mind that?
hehe
WongGahming
08-10-2003, 01:53 PM
you can drift the car with its stock suspension, i advise a xbrace though and maybe a few more items for more frame stability, tiebars, sway bars, strut brace. but if your running 22psi you should definetly have enough power to dift the car. I mean my basicly stock S can do some pretty sweet drifts. You just need to know how to initiate them properly.
If you really want to change up your whole suspension look into Tein suspension. they make some really quality stuff. www.tein.com
If you really want to change up your whole suspension look into Tein suspension. they make some really quality stuff. www.tein.com
ITR Hatch
10-23-2003, 10:43 PM
David Kang, how do u have a t66 turbo'ed s2k with a cold air intake???? :uhoh: the use of a turbo eliminates the use of a cai because it is replaced with the pipe from the intercooler. and u say u are boosting 22lbs, i don't think that is possible with what u say u have done too the engine. :lol: haha if ur a kid,..........better luck next time :loser:
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