body differences between 96-98 civic &99-00 civic

Ok I have a 97 civic ex and i want to make it into an si. I'm gettin a usdm b16a2 and si tails and si guages but the thing that concerns me is that instead of a kit i might just get 99-00 civic front and back bumper. I know those fit on directly or with little modification but are the lights the same from 96-00 or do 96-98 have a different kind and if they do can i put 99-00 civic headlight on it and if i did would i have to replace the hood with a 99-00 hood??? Most likely i will get a get though black widow most likely but i still want the 99-00 clear headlights!!! Someone please help me thanx

why not just keep your money and save for an si? instead of having a fake si?

it'll be the same thing just not the same year!!! the same reason that ppl put a gsr engine in a civic to me it's just more effective. My car costs only 4900 engine 4000 and misc- rims,aftermarketparts 5000 that's still less than the price of just a stock si i just prefer to do it this way it's just more cost effective

Originally posted by blasian_man
why not just keep your money and save for an si? instead of having a fake si?

I agree. The reason people swap GSR motors is for performance and performace only. There's a word enthusiasts use for people making their non-Si Civic look like an SI. POSER. If you are a true poser than I guess I can help. You need the whole front end. The hood, headlights, fenders, bumper, and core supprt. IMHO :greddy2: This the JDM forum. Keep this where it belongs.

the head and tails were consturucted differently, like the 99-00 ones have a more led-ish look to em.

well i guess what yall are sayin makes sense but even if i just swapped the engine wouldn't that be something like being a poser. I just really want the engine i don't care about the lights and bumper and all of that I just love the b16 engine itself and i want to put it in my car so does that still make me a poser???

No its not makin you a poser. A poser is someone being something there not. Even though your car is NOT an SI doesnt make u a poser, thats like saying everyone who does an engine swap is a poser. Say you put a gsr motor in your civic oh noo your a poser now cuz you want to be like an integra or what about people who do front end or rear end conversions are they posers because they want to look like another car.....come on give the guy a break.

Originally posted by funkdaflex1
No its not makin you a poser. A poser is someone being something there not. Even though your car is NOT an SI doesnt make u a poser, thats like saying everyone who does an engine swap is a poser. Say you put a gsr motor in your civic oh noo your a poser now cuz you want to be like an integra or what about people who do front end or rear end conversions are they posers because they want to look like another car.....come on give the guy a break.

You got it twisted. Read my first post. The reason people swap engines is for performance. Not because they wanted to be like a Teg. They did it to beat a Teg. :rolleyes: Making your EX " LOOK " like an Si. IS posing. Swapping an Si motor is a totally different thing. People don't swap a GSR motor in their Civic and call it a 95 Civic GSR. :rolleyes:

I think you missed my point but thats ok and what about those people who make there civic a ctr or the teg an itr I see that A helllllllll of a whole lot.

Originally posted by funkdaflex1
I think you missed my point but thats ok and what about those people who make there civic a ctr or the teg an itr I see that A helllllllll of a whole lot.

IMO it's returning the car to it's truest form and not posing as long as they don't call it a CTR or ITR. If they call it a CTR or ITR then yes, it's posing. Even then it's still better than posing as a shitty Si. If you wanted a Si you could've and should've bought one. If people want a CTR, you cant buy one so why not build something similar? Same with the JDM ITR. If you can't buy one then buy a USDM one and get the front end. :bigthumb:

Ok I hear ya on that.

Originally posted by cvcricer420
Ok I have a 97 civic ex and i want to make it into an si. I'm gettin a usdm b16a2 and si tails and si guages but the thing that concerns me is that instead of a kit i might just get 99-00 civic front and back bumper. I know those fit on directly or with little modification but are the lights the same from 96-00 or do 96-98 have a different kind and if they do can i put 99-00 civic headlight on it and if i did would i have to replace the hood with a 99-00 hood??? Most likely i will get a get though black widow most likely but i still want the 99-00 clear headlights!!! Someone please help me thanx
Why the hell is this in the JDM forum when you even mention "usdm b16a2"

Why the hell would you waste thousands of dollars for a bunch of stupid body work and still look like a stock Civic, Si or not

Why the hell did you even make this post when realistically you won't do any of it

somebody please make me a moderator :comprage1

Ok ricochet i see your point about the usdm in the jdm forum but, the 96-98 civics are obd2 right, yes they are and the jdm b16a is obd1 right, yes the only b16 engines that are obd2 are the b16b and the usdm b16a2. And first you don't know me i was just askin what are the body differeences because i want a kit for it then again i want a stock look because around here where i live Greensboro,NC if somebody sees your car and likes it they take your whole style if you come here i bet you see the same exact looking car in about 20 different colors so i just wanted a stock look but it really wouldn't be stock but it wouldn't be worth anyone taking my style you see and realistically i would do but i don't want to be assumed as a poser i just like the way the 99-00 civics look and i mean i'm only 17 so a 15000 dollar car is not exactly in my budget just wanted to be different...

FUNKDAFLEX1 IS YOUR CAR AN AUTO OR MANUAL??????

manual why?

Originally posted by cvcricer420
Ok ricochet i see your point about the usdm in the jdm forum but, the 96-98 civics are obd2 right, yes they are and the jdm b16a is obd1 right, yes the only b16 engines that are obd2 are the b16b and the usdm b16a2.

No those are not the only OBDII B16's. There was a JDM B16A OBDII in the 96-00 SiR and SiRII. In any case this should've been in the 92+ forum but you got your answers anyway so case closed.

JUST WONDERIN, BUT CAN I ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION MY BUDDY HAS A 95 CIVIC LX AND HE DOESN'T KNOW IF HE SHOULD DO A B16A SWAP WITH A AUTO TO MANUAL CONVERSION OR SWAP A D16Z6 AND PUT A GREDDY OR APEXI TURBO ON IT WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST (if he gets the d16z6 he's gonna keep it an auto) And also do you like the turbo kit for your car?? i mean about how much more hp/tq you got???

Originally posted by B16EJ1


No those are not the only OBDII B16's. There was a JDM B16A OBDII in the 96-00 SiR and SiRII. In any case this should've been in the 92+ forum but you got your answers anyway so case closed.

Ok then i apologize putting it in this forum but in any case another thread i posted someone told me those were the only two obd2 engines sorry my mistake but thanx for the answers and do yall understand now why i wanted to do that body work if not then i guess im just weird

Well here it is. If he wants to get a single cam motor get the d16y8 I think someone correct me if im wrong but I think its probly the strong single cam motor stock wise if hes going to turbo that problem with that though is he wants to keep it a auto where I'm just gunna tell you dont waste your money putting a turbo on a auto civic Its not going to do jack shit for you unless your friend wants to have his foot on the floor alll the time just to get the turbo to spool. Now as for the b16a swap pending on which motor he wants will cost the same as a turbo but the auto to manual switch is whats going to hurt you I honestly dont think he can get that done for any less than a grand. Another problem with the motor swap is I'm not sure that a 95 lx is vtec or not but if its not vtec thats just more problems to add to the story. SO his best bet is probably to trade in the 95 lx and trade for a 95 ex the nice part about doing that is it will be obd 1 which will be better for tuning.

The Z6 or Y8 are both " strong " or good motors to boost but not with an auto tranny for the reason already stated. As far as the ato to manual swap w/ the B16.........It can be done for fairly cheap if done yourself. All you'd have to do is get a complete swap w/ tranny from where ever and get the other crap at a local junkyard. Either way you look at it, yes, trading the car in for a 5-speed Ex or Si would be easier.

Originally posted by cvcricer420
Ok ricochet i see your point about the usdm in the jdm forum but, the 96-98 civics are obd2 right, yes they are and the jdm b16a is obd1 right, yes the only b16 engines that are obd2 are the b16b and the usdm b16a2. And first you don't know me i was just askin what are the body differeences because i want a kit for it then again i want a stock look because around here where i live Greensboro,NC if somebody sees your car and likes it they take your whole style if you come here i bet you see the same exact looking car in about 20 different colors so i just wanted a stock look but it really wouldn't be stock but it wouldn't be worth anyone taking my style you see and realistically i would do but i don't want to be assumed as a poser i just like the way the 99-00 civics look and i mean i'm only 17 so a 15000 dollar car is not exactly in my budget just wanted to be different...
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