altimas taking over

Is it just me or altimas are all over the streets now. I see alot of altimas lately with deep tints and pimped out rims. Two different times I saw them in packs of 4. Im not hating on them I think the altima is a tight car Im just surprised how popular they are. Most of them are 2.5's though. Seen a few 3.5's.

i can't understand it either. why do they even make altimas? if you're gonna get a 4 cylinder altima get the spec-v se-R and if you're gonna get a v6 altima why not get nissans flagship. it doesn't make sense to me. and i also don't understand the people who say the altima's are faster. how is it faster with 15 less hp and only 48 less lbs of body weight(5spd vs. 6 spd) i have a couple vids on my pc of 2k2 maxima's beating v6 altima's. it boggles the mind:confused:

I would bet it has something to do with the new Altimas being about $10,000 dollars cheaper than the Max. Not that I wouldn't spend the extra 10Gs myself for the Max, but it is a lot of money. They're just in two completely differnt marketing categories really. For the money I like the new Altima. They're one of the sharpest cars out there in that price range, although the new Mazda 6 is going to give it some stiff market competition I think.

2003 Altima 3.5 SE's are a bit faster than the Maxima.
I used to like the 03 Maxima better than the Altima, until
I bought my new Altima. The Altima looks better than the 04
Maxima also, maybe that is why it is selling better also.
2003 3.5 SE Altimas seem to have higher asking prices
than the 03 Maxima SE's also. Look on Ebay. There are
more 2003 Maxima SE's on there than 03 Altima 3.5 SE's,
but prices are higher on what few Altima 3.5's are on there.
Maybe also people might like the new look of the Altima
because it is a completly new car, as opposed to the 03
Maxima getting a little old. Im not the only one that likes
the Altima, sales speak for themselves.:cool:

Originally posted by joeB
2003 Altima 3.5 SE's are a bit faster than the Maxima.


:bs:

the only altima that is faster is the one that was race prepped which happened to be 1 tick faster. for all practical purposes, max's and alti's are exactly the same. max has tranny advantage, alti has 50 lb weight advantage. it's a wash

agreed.:smile:

is it just me? or does the Saturn ion look exactly like the new Maxima?

Originally posted by EPVQ30
is it just me? or does the Saturn ion look exactly like the new Maxima?

Hey some one put up a side by side of the new ION and the new Max hehe Its kinda funny if you ask me hehe but i wana see!! :icon16:

Not too many modded out Altimas or Maximas around here. Even though I'm beginning too see more modded Maximas. But tonight I did see an Altima 3.5 SE with a Trenz grill. Funny thing was it was a women that looked like she was about 40 driving it. I was amazed! :icon16:

On a side note the new Galant looks more like the new Maxima then the Ion.

The Altima 3.5 SE 5-Spd is faster than the Maxima because the Max's HP is not 255 like listed, there is a big horsepower lost for some reason in the Maxima. It only makes 240 like the Altima. Maxima.org people wanted too sue Nissan, not sure if they ever went through with it.

One reason people go with the Altima is because its a little smaller. 3.5 Altima vs 3.5 Max 03 drivers both auto I would still rather have the Max over the Alti because Max has way more features. Like one of the best navi system in the market and an option of 4 seats with heated seats in the back to keep all the pretty ladeis you are going to take home warm. Oh ya Max also has more room for fun if you get what I am saying.

I think people buy the Altima because the new Maxima is a little
ugly compared to last gen Maximas. Thats why I bought my Altima
anyway, and it also faster. The Maxima may have a nav. and the
option of 4 seats, but that about the only more it has over the Altima.

As far as size, the dimensions for both cars are very close.

Interior passenger cu ft for the Altima is 103.2
and the Maxima is 103.6 so they are about the
same size.

Originally posted by joeB
I think people buy the Altima because the new Maxima is a little
ugly compared to last gen Maximas. Thats why I bought my Altima
anyway, and it also faster. The Maxima may have a nav. and the
option of 4 seats, but that about the only more it has over the Altima.

As far as size, the dimensions for both cars are very close.

Interior passenger cu ft for the Altima is 103.2
and the Maxima is 103.6 so they are about the
same size.


Also the Maxima has a much nicer interior than the cheapy looking plastics in the Altima, also there's only one comparison made of an Altima being faster than a Maxima.

Every video I have shows a Maxima smoking a new Altima, so just taking one persons word who happens to have an Altima is biased, the proof is in all of the results of these types of races.

However, no one wants to start the same garbage my Altima is faster than your Maxima all over again, so unless anyone can specifically prove that all Altimas are faster than all Maximas then you may as well not mention it at all.

a 5.9 compared to a 6.0 is hardly enough to say one car is faster than the other. slightly changing where you shift can add or take away a tenth of a second easily.

how are the video's rigged? the one i have is taken from inside the altima. why would somene throw the race to make their car the loser? i've seen 3 different vids of a max beating an altima but i have yet to see any with the outcome reversed. and the 5th gen aren't the slowest. i think the 3rd gens are probably considerably slower.

But why do profesional drivers get better times?
Ive seen alot better 1/4 times for the Altima
than the Maxima. But it would have to come down
to the driver.

I was comparing Maximas from 95 to 03, that is why I said
that the 2000 and 01 Maximas were the slowest.

I was mainly comparing the Altima with the new 04
Maxima to begin with as far as speed goes. The 04
Maxima isnt as fast as 02 or 03 Maximas.

Originally posted by joeB
I was comparing the Altima with the 04 Maxima.

Cheap plastics in the Altima? Go look at some 03's.

It has a nicer looking interior and fresher look than 2000 to
03 Maximas do. Also Im not Biased, but my Altima
has been more quiet and smoother ride than any Maxima
Ive had. But 2000 and 01 Maximas are the slowest Maximas
made since 95. Motor Trend said that the Altima was the fastest front
drive production car they have ever tested. Car and driver
also times 0 to 60 for the 03 Altima was 5.9, same as Motor
Trend. Car and Driver times for the 02 Maxima 0 to 60 6.0.
Both magazines got better 1/4 mile times for the Altima also.
Go and look at your rigged up videos, Ive also seen a 02 Maxima video
beating a new 350z.:rolleyes: Id rather take some times from
professional people than maybe some people racing that dont
know how to drive.

Here we go again, another Magazine racer, who goes on record quoting what Motortrend says, however we still don't believe that the Altima is nicer on the interior than any Maxima, the plastics are just very cheap looking and besides I think everyone here would rather drive a Maxima (ie., that's why we are here) than an Altima, regardless of how fast you think it is.

All you do is come here to flame the Maxima, why don't you go back to the boring @$$ Altima forum and flame on something in the same class as your beloved Altima.

Altimas taking over.

I think I can post wherever I want to. Dont get mad just because
you have a slow older Maxima. Your interior looks older too.
Face it your car is outdated, that is why the new Maxima is on
the new Altima platform. If you dont like it dont come on here.
I guess you know what your talking about more than the people
that bought over 20,000 Altimas last June. I trust professional
magazines before these videos on here. Like I said a Maxima
faster than a 350Z, yea right.::rolleyes:

Originally posted by joeB
Altimas taking over.

I think I can post wherever I want to. Dont get mad just because
you have a slow older Maxima. Your interior looks older too.
Face it your car is outdated, that is why the new Maxima is on
the new Altima platform. If you dont like it dont come on here.
I guess you know what your talking about more than the people
that bought over 20,000 Altimas last June. I trust professional
magazines before these videos on here. Like I said a Maxima
faster than a 350Z, yea right.::rolleyes:

First off, I never bashed the Altima, I said it had a plasticky interior which is true, second of all I'm very satisfied with my Maxima and I don't care if it is the slowest of all Maximas as you put it (then again, it depends on the type of race with that issue, I have proof) also you have the right to post here but all you ever do is bring up the same old tired issue about speed my car being outdated.

Even if it is outdated your quoting of people buying 20k plus Altimas doesn't justify it being more of the car people wanted as opposed to the Maxima, all that tells us is that some people just preferred the Altima (probably mostly based on price) because of it's fresher looking design.

Why did you even post?<quoted by JoeB

Because this is a MAXIMA Forum and I drive a MAXIMA, unlike you, I have more legitamacy for being here than you based on the car I drive and the title of this forum.

My interior may look older but it still looks better than an Altima's interior and that is my opinion and the opinion of most anyone who has ever compared the two car's interiors.

I don't go over to your beloved Altima forum bashing on Altimas so you shouldn't come over here trying to put people down and flame just because you have a newer vehicle. I have news for you, newer doesn't mean better.

It's great that you trust Motortrend (one of many who are paid by Manufacturers to make quotes for them) than your own eyesight but the videos speak for themselves, just face it, the Altima hasn't been unequivocally found to be faster than the Maxima and the fact that 99% of the videos that show these two racing, ended up with the Maxima winning.

On any given day either one can beat the other (both have the same engine) I think it depends on the driver and other conditions that we, may or may not have control over.

I never bashed, I made a comment that was my opinion and you are starting up the same garbage that was in the other thread about who is faster, no one will get into that unproven theory of an Altima being faster.

Show us your undisputed proof, show us that every Altima that has raced every Maxima and has won, then we will agree with you, if you don't have that, then you have no argument.

As far as opinions on what you think of your beloved Altimas interior being fresher or your styling, ride or whatever being better, then you are entitled to that but you don't have to act like a 3 year old and bash because of it.

Grow up.

that is why the new Maxima is on
the new Altima platform.<quoted by JoeB

One other thing you should know before you go quoting misinformation, the Maxima and the Altima is built on the same platform as the G35, so don't get it twisted, the only thing that has given the Altima it's notarity is the fact that it has the Maxima's engine, so if anything was done to make a car more significantly better it is that.

Before the Altima added the V6, no one was hardly even mentioning it, I know for a fact, I've owned 3 Altimas prior to buying a Maxima.

The suspension on the Altima is better because they got it from the G.

I think you are mistaken about the Altima and Maxima based on the G35/350Z platform. The G35, 350z and FX are on the FM platform. The Altima, Maxima, Murano and I think the Quest they are all on the FF-L platform. It a different platform because the FF-L is fwd platform. They are all using the same engine. I can belive a Maxima beating a 350Z. Maybe it was a stick Maxima vs auto 350Z or it was a stick 350Z but driver missed a gear. I know that the 350Z can do to 60 in 5.4 and the auto the fastest I have seen is like 5.8. The conv the fastest I have seen was 5.8 also maybe it was a conv in the race? The Altima is fwd so I dont think the suspension is based on the G35 and the Altima came out first. I know that with coilover you can get the Altima's handling close to the G35 sport and equal the G35 non-sport but you still have to deal with the horrible tq steer.

hey guys don't get worked up over this issue about the ALTIMA.. just look at the name. it sounds like a chick would drive it....

BARBIE CAR..... HAHAHAHAHAHA:thefinger

Originally posted by bk2kmax


First off, I never bashed the Altima, I said it had a plasticky interior which is true, second of all I'm very satisfied with my Maxima and I don't care if it is the slowest of all Maximas as you put it (then again, it depends on the type of race with that issue, I have proof) also you have the right to post here but all you ever do is bring up the same old tired issue about speed my car being outdated.

Even if it is outdated your quoting of people buying 20k plus Altimas doesn't justify it being more of the car people wanted as opposed to the Maxima, all that tells us is that some people just preferred the Altima (probably mostly based on price) because of it's fresher looking design.

Why did you even post?<quoted by JoeB

Because this is a MAXIMA Forum and I drive a MAXIMA, unlike you, I have more legitamacy for being here than you based on the car I drive and the title of this forum.

My interior may look older but it still looks better than an Altima's interior and that is my opinion and the opinion of most anyone who has ever compared the two car's interiors.

I don't go over to your beloved Altima forum bashing on Altimas so you shouldn't come over here trying to put people down and flame just because you have a newer vehicle. I have news for you, newer doesn't mean better.

It's great that you trust Motortrend (one of many who are paid by Manufacturers to make quotes for them) than your own eyesight but the videos speak for themselves, just face it, the Altima hasn't been unequivocally found to be faster than the Maxima and the fact that 99% of the videos that show these two racing, ended up with the Maxima winning.

On any given day either one can beat the other (both have the same engine) I think it depends on the driver and other conditions that we, may or may not have control over.

I never bashed, I made a comment that was my opinion and you are starting up the same garbage that was in the other thread about who is faster, no one will get into that unproven theory of an Altima being faster.

Show us your undisputed proof, show us that every Altima that has raced every Maxima and has won, then we will agree with you, if you don't have that, then you have no argument.

As far as opinions on what you think of your beloved Altimas interior being fresher or your styling, ride or whatever being better, then you are entitled to that but you don't have to act like a 3 year old and bash because of it.

Grow up.

Ok keep your opinions and I'll keep mine. I wasn't acting like a 3 year
old, I was trying to post facts, something I guess you don't want to
hear. I've read motor trend for years and I highly doubt nissan pays
them to say the altima is faster than the maxima. Why would nissan
pay them to say the altima is faster than the maxima, when they are
both nissans? Thats just crazy! I'm just skeptical about videos after
I seen the one were the maxima beat the 350 Z.

you know what, even if an altima is slightly faster, i could care less. the interior is garbage, and we all know it. it has been knocked by all the reviews, whereas the '02-'03 Max interior is always praised. the alti interior looks and feels cheap compared to the max.

Where did you see a video of the Maxima beating the Z? I saw a video of a 350Z vs a Maxima vs Grand Prix and the Z came frist if I am not mistaking and the Maxima second then the Pontiac. I know that an auto Z and manual Maxima would do about the same so it woulld be a drivers race. I dont like how people compare Nissans and Infinti's to each other. We should be comaparing them to like Hondas.

Deadm's right. The Maxima is based on a suped up Altima platform, but they're both strictly 'American' cars. They're both built side-by-side in Tennessee. The G35 and the Murano are the same platform as each other but not as the Max and Altima. I think Nissan is trying to do everything they can to seperate the Nissan/Infiniti similarities because the Infinitis aren't selling so hot compared to other luxury vehicles. I think everyone's figured out that the Infiniti is just a Nissan with a different emblem slapped on the front of it. And let's face it the Altima is $10,000 cheaper than the Max for a reason. Doesn't mean its a bad, slow, clunky car. It's just in a completely differnt category. Comparing them is kinda silly really. Sure there are some similarities, but their completely differnt cars. And if I had my guess they won't be as similar as they are now for long. The only reason Nissan decided to use the same platform this go round was because they've been undergoing some huge executive changes. The company wasn't doing so well so that was a cost-cutting decision.

Originally posted by joeB
Look, Im not going to bash Nissan products anymore. I like every
vehicle Nissan makes. The one and only thing I tryed to do was
post some facts that I have read about these cars. I dont like to
say anything bad about Maximas as they have been the best vehicles
we have ever had. If you think the Altima has a cheap interior by
reading what everone has posted, then its a wonder you guys arent
driving Honda Accords. Ive tryed to tell you that the 03 has had
alot of improvments on the interior. As the Maxima is a exellent car
so is the Altima. If you want to act like babies, like we have, and
dont want to beleive me thats fine. The only thing I ever said at first
on this thread was that I didnt much care for the looks of the 04
Maxima.

maninc, I think that might have been the same video , maybe not,
but from what I seen the Maxima was beating the 350Z. There was
a few comments on freshalloy about the how the Maxima beat the
350Z. Plus the grand prix beat both the Maxima and the 350Z,
mods or somthing, but that was the talk on freshalloy for a while.:cool:

Deadmaninnc is right about the platform issue but we know where the V6 in the Altima came from.

Also, JoeB you're right about that Video, the Z and the Max lost to the Ponticrap but he was highly modified plus he has an SC.

The other thing Joe, when I was speaking about Manufacturers paying Magazines for certain ratings, I wasn't referring to the Max vs Alti issue, I was stating what should be obvious to you since you claim you read the magazines so much and that is, if you've ever noticed how BMW is always so much more ahead of every other car.

Not to knock on BMW's, they are excellent cars but case in point, the BMW was chosen over the G35, even though the G is bigger on the interior, equalled or surpassed the 330i in every test, yet the G is 5-8 G's cheaper, yet they still pick the BMW, go figure.

You're right, we both are entitled to our opinions, however mine will be unbiased and not always about, "Well, my Altima is faster and you have the slowest Maxima out of all the Gens".
I will try to post constructive criticism in a way where you and others who drive the Altima feel that I'm not trying to flame.

I love Nissan's and I like the Altima a lot (hell, I've owned 3 of them) but I will not allow people to come here and flame and think they can just walk away. (Yes, I'm the Defender of all that is Maxima)

I have no personal beef with you but most of us here, even though we find our Maximas quick and like to race them on occasion, would rather enjoy our ride and other qualities that aren't used like speed is every now and then.

Most of us would rather just be cruising and have people leave us alone but you know how it is because you drive an Altima V6, some punk @$$ kid starts revving on you and you have to blow his doors off just to keep things in check.
Peace out JoeB

tdaily The Murano is on the Altima/Maxima platform. The FX is on the G platform. Only reason Alitma can be 10,000 cheaper is some of the options that are on the Max you can not get on the Altima and it also platform sharing that is keeping cost down. The only reason they chose the BMW is Infiniti has some qualtily issues. You have to wait for the 2004 to get some problems fixed. Oh the G is better in many of the aspects. The good ones that is the only thing G has a problem is the center console they find it to be a little cheap. Nissan/Infinit also has the best Navi in the market it much better than the BMW. They chose BMW just because of its name, and it reasale value.

BTW have any of you seen the 04 Sentra? I saw the car from the front and thought it was an 04 Max but then I see no its A Sentra. Wow that grill is really ugly. I dunno what nissan is thinking but I think that new Altima style grill is ugly. It looks good on the ALtima but not on other cars.

You're right the Murano does share the Altima platform. Its the big brother ( the FX45) that sits on a slightly modified G35 platform.


You're right about the new sentra too...that grille is kinda fugly. I think the 2002 SERs are the sharpest one's Nissan ever made. The have a wicked looking front end for a little Sentra.

The grille is what really threw me about the new gen Max too. I think I'd have to put an aftermarket one in there if I were to buy one.

Let me rephrase that...I will put an aftermarket one in there if I'm ever able to afford a new gen.
:(

BTW is anyone old enough to remember the really old Sentras...you know the square ones. I think they were made 87-90. They were the best. My best friend in high-school had one of those. We drove the hell out of that thing. It was sweet...vinyl seats, roll-up windows, and 13" wheels with 6" wide tires. It was awesome...I love those cars.:ylsuper:

Check this one out, his looked just like this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6401&item=2425141709

Originally posted by tdaily
BTW is anyone old enough to remember the really old Sentras...you know the square ones. I think they were made 87-90. They were the best. My best friend in high-school had one of those. We drove the hell out of that thing. It was sweet...vinyl seats, roll-up windows, and 13" wheels with 6" wide tires. It was awesome...I love those cars.:ylsuper:

Check this one out, his looked just like this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6401&item=2425141709

yep, those were cool little cars back then. Id like to have that
one on Ebay if its in that nice of shape.:cool:

Originally posted by tdaily
BTW is anyone old enough to remember the really old Sentras...you know the square ones. I think they were made 87-90. They were the best. My best friend in high-school had one of those. We drove the hell out of that thing. It was sweet...vinyl seats, roll-up windows, and 13" wheels with 6" wide tires. It was awesome...I love those cars.:ylsuper:

Check this one out, his looked just like this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6401&item=2425141709

i remember going to Puerto Rico back in '89 with my family and we rented one of those Sentras in bright red. the thing had like a hundred miles on it.. it was mint.. i sure did drive it like it was a stolen car... hehehe..good memories.. i still remember how fun that was, it had balls too!

It does look like its in pretty good shape. If I had the extra money that sucker'd be mine. I don't even know why:biggrin: I guess just memories like EP said.

The only reason they chose the BMW is Infiniti has some qualtily issues.<quoted by Deadmaninnc

You are right but for the extra 7G's it costs to get into an 330, I would do an interior upgrade myself and add some other goodies with the leftover cash, such as Y-pipe, CAI, maybe even an SC (I know some of this stuff isn't available yet) and my car (G) would be much faster with a better interior and it would still cost less or just slightly above a 330.

Same with Honda though, you ever noticed how they have the
Accord better than the Maxima? Thats the biggest joke ever.<Quoted by JoeB

You're right too and I haven't seen anyone that I know of that has owned or driven both cars go from owning a Maxima to go back and buy an Accord but I have seen people go from Accord to Maxima, you'd think that would tell them (Magazine Editor's/Reporters) something.

There is no real good interior mods out there. The main problem with the G was center console looks cheap and ugly to some. I like the center console and I have the sport package so it looks like it titanium and I do have to agree it is a little cheap but what can I say when the car is cheaper the the 330i. The only thing out there from what I know is wood grain upgrade and then there is carbon fiber upgrade. I would take the Max's Vq over the hondas cart anyday. Only thing I like about the Hodnda is the voice activation in the car. Too bad the only voice activation Nissan has is the Q45 and I think the M45. Our navi kicks the Honda one but they got that voice thing,.