is a strut bar just a strut bar?

Ok...not including $200 spoon/mugen strut bars...are the lower ones all the same shit? meaning a fucking pole is a fucking pole?

yup... that's why i'm using 50$ ones !

so i can order one of thse $70 4 piece shits from ebay?

2 lower ties and 2 strut

if you get one or more, get ones that don't have adjustability to them... that just adds slop to them and renders them usless

you get what you pay for

usually that applies but some things like a strut bar, its a fuckin bar ya know what i mean if its all made of the same material i really think you just pay more for the name

a strut bar is a strut bar, as long as its not flimsy. ideally, the best strut bar would be a solid piece of tube steel or thick aluminum bolted or welded directly to the strut tower.

thx guys...i was thinking like who the fuck would pay $200 just cuz its a bar from spoon? heh...ebay time.

Originally posted by toronto pimp
thx guys...i was thinking like who the fuck would pay $200 just cuz its a bar from spoon? heh...ebay time.

been there done that:iceslolan :bigthumb:

i wanted some for mine, but i cant find a top strut brace that will fit on carb'd civics :(

Hmmm...some of these ones on ebay say they dont fit 88-91 DX models, but they fit every other model. That's weird.

Get a Neuspeed one, they are non-adjustable and don't bend at all.

that is b/c the dx has the dpfi with the different style throttle body...

Originally posted by FourthGenHatch
Get a Neuspeed one, they are non-adjustable and don't bend at all.



Yup...them or Sprint bars..I got a neuspeed because it is solid.. Sprint's are supposed to be cheaper versions of Neuspeeds, but I found a Neuspeed at groupbuycenter.com that was the same price as Sprint. :)

The adjustable ones are pretty useless IMO.

ADJUSTABLES AREN'T USELESS.....


i have one off ebay...had it adjusted to fit....then took it and tightened it up..real tight....and i can tell a difference....but i'd rather have a neuspeed b/c they look kewl:bigthumb:

Cool yo....I do like mine..it looks cool!! :bigthumb:

so are you saying the cheaper ones bend and shit?

I'm looking at these: http://www.procarparts.com/store-detail.asp?sku=HND%2DCVC%2D8895%2DXXXX%2DXXFB%2D4S BX

doesn't say if they're adjustable or not

First off, a strut bar is indeed 'just a piece of metal.' There's nothing high-tech, no incredibly close tolerances or difficult measurements to make these things difficult to build.
The big reason you are buying one is to make your car's body flex less. You want the body to be more rigid. Aluminum is more rigid than steel. A machinist will tell you about the properties of steel. One of those properties is flex. Steel ALWAYS flexes under stress. Any stress at all! If a fly lands on a steel beam, it flexes, although it flexes only a microscopic amount. And it snaps right back to its old shape (mostly).
Aluminum, on the other hand, doesn't flex; it bends. It will not return to its former shape when the stress is removed. Aluminum will not flex under stress, but if the stress gets over a certain point, it bends, permanently.
Aluminum is lighter and more rigid than steel. That's why most strut bars are made out of aluminum. Also, aluminum oxidizes (rusts) differently than steel. Aluminum actually oxidizes MUCH faster than steel. It just oxidizes so quickly and completely that the outer layer of oxidation seals off the inner layer, preserving it completely. When you handle old aluminum tent poles, you get black stuff on your hands. That's the oxidation. This oxidation doesn't compromise the strength of the aluminum, and that's another reason it's better for this purpose than steel. When steel rusts, it is weakened.
So, aluminum weighs less, is more rigid, and isn't weakened by oxidation, making it an excellent material for strut bars and wheels.
Flunky
PS-We could have a separate thread on how critical reducing rolling weight is, but I've bored you enough already...

Originally posted by 4-Door Flunky
but I've bored you enough already...

:iagree: but very insighteful :grinyes:

Too boring? Ok, I'll try a joke:
When is a strut bar NOT a strut bar?

When it's a sex toy!
Ha ha ha haaaaa!
Flunky

:banhim: :slap: http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/989442banhim.JPG

So is it ok if the actual bar is made from aluminum but the part that bolts on to the struts or whatever is made from steel?

Originally posted by FourthGenHatch
Get a Neuspeed one, they are non-adjustable and don't bend at all.

I'm with Special Ed. :bigthumb:

Originally posted by ci5ic


I'm with Special Ed. :bigthumb:

me too. neuspeed style is best

the ones that say they dont fit on dx models, i actually bought one and they do fit they just push on the round dpfi manifold part a lil but that doesnt matter

I bought one and it was a really tight fit around my dpfi, so it scratched the surface a little bit, but it worked just fine.

The hinged type upper bars are useless

by 'hinged type' are u referring to the ones in the link that i posted?

Part # Description Price Qty

25.20.22 Rear Sway Bar $419.95


ROFL who the fuck would pay that much just cuz its NEUSPEED?

Originally posted by toronto pimp
by 'hinged type' are u referring to the ones in the link that i posted?
Yep.

$420.00 for a neuspeed rear sway bar?????? which make/model car & from where? Thats $100.00 more that most places sell them for . . . . .

There is a reason why some stuff cost more than others. Neuspeed designed the sway bar, where other companies just COPY. Anybody can copy parts . . .

Most people dont buy performance parts because of the name, they pay extra from the R&D & the function.

Neuspeed makes good stuff but don't waste that much mone on their rear anti-sway bars. Get a Suspension Techniques rear anti-sway.

I agree, you can buy a set of ST sways for under $250

cheap ones can break! I've seen it my buddy snaped a APC bar and messed his hood up I use a Trust strut bar only 100 but I love it could have gotten a cheaper one but I like what i have and thats what matters (plus it works) :bigthumb:

Sorry for brining this boring thread back to life. Does anyone have any experience with Toucan/Ractive strut/brace bars? I know they're pretty shit for mechanical stuff like tachs etc...but what about their strut/brace bars?

I have skunk2 front rear strut bars, only $250 for both, not bad, plus it says Skunk2, and everyone knows and loves Skunk2, correct? It's soo shiny and perty too, and it's very stong, I was able to use it too pry up my friends F-350 Ext and it didnt flex at all.























.....ok, maybe that never happend, but its still strong. :bigthumb:

Originally posted by toronto pimp
Sorry for brining this boring thread back to life. Does anyone have any experience with Toucan/Ractive strut/brace bars? I know they're pretty shit for mechanical stuff like tachs etc...but what about their strut/brace bars?

They are pretty shitty in general from what I have heard. Their parts are for looks, not function.