I hate maximas

I can't count the number of time I, or my friends, have had our asses handed to us by a maxima. Thumbs to you guys I guess. My one consolation is that my car is much more fun through the twisties. And prettier on the eyes. But man, do I hate that Nissan sleeper.

yea nissan rocks!!

go maxima!!:bigthumb: :bigthumb: :bigthumb: :bigthumb: :bigthumb: :bigthumb: :bigthumb:

maxima be :biggrin2: the competition..

:icon16:

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ya they are really fast for what they are

The Maxima is ok, but I wouldn't call it a sleeper :bloated:

Originally posted by buymeabmwm3
I can't count the number of time I, or my friends, have had our asses handed to us by a maxima. Thumbs to you guys I guess. My one consolation is that my car is much more fun through the twisties. And prettier on the eyes. But man, do I hate that Nissan sleeper.
any particular year or generation?

:dunno: Ive never been walked on by a Maxima:wink:

you will. just be patient:tongue:

Never underestimate the power of the MAXIMA!! :worshippy

Originally posted by UKMAX
Never underestimate the power of the MAXIMA!! :worshippy

Or it's little brother, the Sentra;)...

i bet carnut read the topic of this thread and was gettin ready to ban people before he came in and read what it was about

Originally posted by DkShadow
:dunno: Ive never been walked on by a Maxima:wink:

Should talk to some of your comrads over here, they'll share the pain :bigthumb:

not a big nissan fan but i got to admit maximas are pretty fast especially the new ones i think a gtp can compete well with the maxima

BIG NISSAN Fan but i beat modified Maximas (not heavily) with a Volvo.

BIG NISSAN Fan but i beat modified Maximas (not heavily) with a Volvo=quoted by NSX-R-SSJ20K


Just curious since you live in England and the Maximas over there are known to be a lot less underpowered than those here in America.

What year and what kind of Maxima did you beat? Also, what kind of Volvo were you in when it happened? What kind of mods did the Maxima have?

And for those who don't think so, the Maxima is a sleeper, it is a family car designed to pick up groceries and take the kids to their ballgames.

Or it's little brother, the Sentra

No offense, but my friend here has a 92 Sentra SE-R, and I walk all over it. In the straights and the twisties.
:iceslolan
On another note, I don't know much about the Maxima line. How many different body styles were there? Which ones are the really fast models?

Originally posted by bk2kmax
BIG NISSAN Fan but i beat modified Maximas (not heavily) with a Volvo=quoted by NSX-R-SSJ20K


Just curious since you live in England and the Maximas over there are known to be a lot less underpowered than those here in America.

What year and what kind of Maxima did you beat? Also, what kind of Volvo were you in when it happened? What kind of mods did the Maxima have?

And for those who don't think so, the Maxima is a sleeper, it is a family car designed to pick up groceries and take the kids to their ballgames.

I did this in Plano TX

i beat 98 97 00 Maximas with a Volvo T5

236hp turbocharged 5 cylinder lump

the modified one had exhuast air intake and some other stuff (it sounded like it had something else done but i dunno what)

The Volvo was Black with black interior and had Factory Sports Suspension Kit and Traction Control which wasn't common on Volvo's in TX. Neither was the colour black for that matter.

Originally posted by buymeabmwm3

On another note, I don't know much about the Maxima line. How many different body styles were there? Which ones are the really fast models?

Most of the Max's you run into will be 4th and 5th generation. Both 4th and 5th and 3 styles, GXE, SLE, GLE. GXE is the base, SLE is the sporty version and GLE is luxury. All have the same engine though so times between the 3 are very similar. The biggest factor would be if it is an auto or manual. Most Max's are Auto.

4th Generation:
95-99
190Hp
Torque: 205 @ 4000 RPM
5 Spd manual transmission was available.

5th Generation:
2000-2003
This generation started off with 222 HP and 217 lb-ft of torque but in 2002 increased it to 255 HP and 246 lb-ft of torque. Another important addition was a 6 speed Manual was available on the SE model.

All models are normally aspirated, unlike the GTP which is supercharged already. Some people have thrown superchargers or turbos on there Max's and those things scream...

I personally have a 99 and it is pretty fast. With my auto transmission my launches aren't that great (boo nissan automatic, I wish I had a nice Audi transmission on there) but the engine is strong.

hey letz ot forget about the turbo maxima and s\c maximas runnin round imagine how fast a turbo max is...:eek:

:biggrin: :biggrin:

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Originally posted by speeder94
not a big nissan fan but i got to admit maximas are pretty fast especially the new ones i think a gtp can compete well with the maxima which isn't saying much for gm considering it's a supercharged 3.8 vs. an NA 3.5.

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K


I did this in Plano TX

i beat 98 97 00 Maximas with a Volvo T5

236hp turbocharged 5 cylinder lump



So never raced a 2002 or a 2003, huh? I see...

Originally posted by Paonessa
which isn't saying much for gm considering it's a supercharged 3.8 vs. an NA 3.5.

Pullies and exhaust and the GTP would be beating/catching up to mustangs and lt1s, even some LS1s if caught sleeping. Now THATS a sleeper :iceslolan

or a 3rd gen! :bigthumb:

Woot for my 160 HP, I can still beat most cars unless they are modded or are far more expensive than my car was new... IE Porches, SS models, cars with Twin or Large Turbos. It's still a damn good car, 12 years later with 198,000 miles :bigthumb:

Still, the Maxima is BY far better looking than the GTP. It is also N/A while the GTP has a bigger engine and is S/C. I would take the Max over the GTP anyday. Just toss a Garrett GT03 if you want to add insult to injury.

While we're on the subject, can anyone think of any other sleeper cars out there like the maxima that you would never expect? Any cars ever surprise any of you?

I would say my Le Baron GTCs are.

Originally posted by buymeabmwm3
While we're on the subject, can anyone think of any other sleeper cars out there like the maxima that you would never expect? Any cars ever surprise any of you?

Polygon's car and my car for one.

The old Dodge turbo-4's (which Poly's is) for another. The new turbo-4 (SRT-4) COULD be sleeper, but a lot of the new owner's attitudes don't make it that way.

My favorite one so far though, was my old Chevy Beretta GTZ. With a worked QUAD4 (2.4ltr I4) motor, I beat a an older M3 with it. Now, who would expect that from a Beretta? This was in 1994, BTW.

Originally posted by turbo2nr
hey letz ot forget about the turbo maxima and s\c maximas runnin round imagine how fast a turbo max is...:eek:

:biggrin: :biggrin:

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1997 Maxima: 429 FWHP:eek: Not mine, but this guy is a very good ambassodor for the Maxima community....11.912 1/4!!!!
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/59739911_912slip.jpg

wouldent the altima be the maxima's little brother? and the sentra more like the redhead step child? :thefinger

Originally posted by Pick


1997 Maxima: 429 FWHP:eek: Not mine, but this guy is a very good ambassodor for the Maxima community....11.912 1/4!!!!
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/59739911_912slip.jpg

Screw him! Who the hell was he racing and what were they driving?:confused:

Originally posted by Self


Screw him! Who the hell was he racing and what were they driving?:confused:

I don't know what he was racing....I think some sort of F-body.

1997 Maxima: 429 FWHP Not mine, but this guy is a very good ambassodor for the Maxima community....11.912 1/4!!!!


turbo or supercharged????

i say turbo!!:biggrin:

:bigthumb:

Whoa, thats a fast Beretta if it can beat the M3's 5.6 seconds to 60. Never knew they had it in em. Is that factory stock?
Here's a new twist: Can anyone think of any cars that are the complete opposite sleepers? That is, they look like sports cars but you can beat up on them all day? I'm thinking Probes, Cougars, non gts celicas, but my favorite are non-GT mustangs. Way too many people buy the base mustang, throw in an automatic, and drive it around like they actually have a real sports cars. (Sorry all you mustang owners out there. I hope you enjoy the only sports car that won't let the live rear axle die.)

Originally posted by buymeabmwm3
Whoa, thats a fast Beretta if it can beat the M3's 5.6 seconds to 60.

The Beretta GTZs had the HO QUAD-4 four-banger, which in the Beretta had about 180-190HP STOCK. It also had about 160+ ft-lbs of TQ. Not bad for a late 80's/early 90's 4-cylinder...from GM, no less, who isn't quite known for it's inline-four cars, even today.

In those early days (hell, probably even now for a Beretta), everything I had had to be custom, since I really couldn't find any bolt-on's available for the car.

I convinced a normally V8-shop to do a balancing/port-polish/headwork job on my car, and they even fabricated an exhaust system for it. With the stock airbox with a K&N, I was bumping off the rev-limiter at 159MPH, and managed to beat a stock-looking M3 from a stop. I really thought I was going to get whomped, since I had much respect for M3s then (and now). I won by half a car.

FYI: That 180HP 160TQ is in a 2,800lb average car.

As for reverse sleepers, N/A 1st-gen MR2's have gotta be on that list. I owned one, and though it handled like nobody's business, it was a slow dog. Oh, and the Mazda MX-3 4-cylinder cars with 88HP:loser:...had one of those too:icon16:.

Originally posted by Pick


I don't know what he was racing....I think some sort of F-body.

That's what I wanna hear:biggrin::iceslolan:bigthumb:

i don't know what those '99 325's are rated at.. but i had no trouble handing down a vicious beating at one of those overpriced mules.

hey and to the MOD with the black CLK.. don't let me catch you with your foot off your sluggish gas pedal.. MUAHAHAHAHA.

Originally posted by EPVQ30
i don't know what those '99 325's are rated at.. but i had no trouble handing down a vicious beating at one of those overpriced mules.

hey and to the MOD with the black CLK.. don't let me catch you with your foot off your sluggish gas pedal.. MUAHAHAHAHA.
I dont know buddy Self was/is pretty quick

Originally posted by turbo2nr
1997 Maxima: 429 FWHP Not mine, but this guy is a very good ambassodor for the Maxima community....11.912 1/4!!!!


turbo or supercharged????

i say turbo!!:biggrin:

:bigthumb:

doesnt it say supercharged at the top of the slip?

Im not shure ive never even seen race slip or whatever you call those things before

Pullies and exhaust and the GTP would be beating/catching up to mustangs and lt1s, even some LS1s if caught sleeping. Now THATS a sleeper


Whoever said this doesn't know that you can't claim a car that lauds a Supercharger as a Sleeper.

Sleepers are NA cars that don't scream "Hey look at me, hey race me."

Besides the NSX guy that raced those Maximas in a Turbocharged car doesn't have anything to braggin about because he said the car had a Turbo.

Now take that same Volvo and race a Turbo'd Maxima and you'd be looking at the taillights from many cars behind.

I just get tired of people talking about, I thought they (Maxima) would be faster, when they raced it while they were driving something Turbo'd/SC'd or had N20.

To make a race fair (both Turbo'd/SC'd/N20) and win hands down and no one would say anything bad about it, we'd say "Nice Kill" but to do what some here say they done and claim victory is hideous.

Cars that are Sleepers are not Turbo'd/SC'd or n20 and cars that are built for speed are not sleepers either such as WRX, SRT Neon and SC'd GTP's.

Originally posted by Swonder67



So never raced a 2002 or a 2003, huh? I see...

there was one time i was tangled in like a 5 way race 02 maxima 97 98 and a C320 i was catchin up to the 00/01 before they slowed cuz their radar detectors started to go nuts.

never had a chance to race a 02 maxima altho i rode in one that had been chipped very nice.

Originally posted by bk2kmax
Pullies and exhaust and the GTP would be beating/catching up to mustangs and lt1s, even some LS1s if caught sleeping. Now THATS a sleeper


Whoever said this doesn't know that you can't claim a car that lauds a Supercharger as a Sleeper.

Sleepers are NA cars that don't scream "Hey look at me, hey race me."

Besides the NSX guy that raced those Maximas in a Turbocharged car doesn't have anything to braggin about because he said the car had a Turbo.

Now take that same Volvo and race a Turbo'd Maxima and you'd be looking at the taillights from many cars behind.

I just get tired of people talking about, I thought they (Maxima) would be faster, when they raced it while they were driving something Turbo'd/SC'd or had N20.

To make a race fair (both Turbo'd/SC'd/N20) and win hands down and no one would say anything bad about it, we'd say "Nice Kill" but to do what some here say they done and claim victory is hideous.

Cars that are Sleepers are not Turbo'd/SC'd or n20 and cars that are built for speed are not sleepers either such as WRX, SRT Neon and SC'd GTP's.

Would you expect a Volvo to be able to outrun your SLEEPER maxima.

No i'm sorry the older Maxima's are not really sleepers the newer ones are more competition but my Volvo was a 98. If you take todays equivalents S60R and the new Maxima it doesn't stand much of a chance.

A sleeper can be anything that is basically a surprise you're coming up with your own definition to save yourself some face.
Do you really think that only NA can be a sleeper? So i rusted up civic hatch with a turbo kit isn't a sleeper? So a old toyota supra that has mis matched panels but can pull 12s on 1/4 miles isn't a sleeper?

Originally posted by bk2kmax
Pullies and exhaust and the GTP would be beating/catching up to mustangs and lt1s, even some LS1s if caught sleeping. Now THATS a sleeper


Whoever said this doesn't know that you can't claim a car that lauds a Supercharger as a Sleeper.

Sleepers are NA cars that don't scream "Hey look at me, hey race me."

Besides the NSX guy that raced those Maximas in a Turbocharged car doesn't have anything to braggin about because he said the car had a Turbo.

Now take that same Volvo and race a Turbo'd Maxima and you'd be looking at the taillights from many cars behind.

I just get tired of people talking about, I thought they (Maxima) would be faster, when they raced it while they were driving something Turbo'd/SC'd or had N20.

To make a race fair (both Turbo'd/SC'd/N20) and win hands down and no one would say anything bad about it, we'd say "Nice Kill" but to do what some here say they done and claim victory is hideous.

Cars that are Sleepers are not Turbo'd/SC'd or n20 and cars that are built for speed are not sleepers either such as WRX, SRT Neon and SC'd GTP's.

Well lets see Your logic is flawed!! Only N/A cars can be a sleeper? :bs: ANY CAR can be a SLEEPER!! If i turbocharge my car and keep the body Exterior/Interior looking stock... You BEST believe its a damn sleeper. Sleeper means a car that looks slow or stock but packs a punch. A SUPERCHARGER or a TURBOCHARGER do NOT scream LOOK at me RACE me, unless you pop your hood before every damn race or put one of those see-thru hoods. A car with a nitrous... if hes not purging on the line, YES it can be a sleeper... A supercharged car... if you do not hear his engine WHINE, YES its a sleeper... if its a turbocharged car and you dont hear the BOV go PSSSTTTTT and the car looks relatively stock (no potruding FMIC, or such crap).... YES ITS A SLEEPER!... I dont know where you got 'Only N/A cars are sleepers'. :bloated:

I'm a sleeper, I slept last night, I slept the day before that... :bigthumb:

get em DkShadow :slap:

Originally posted by turbo2nr
1997 Maxima: 429 FWHP Not mine, but this guy is a very good ambassodor for the Maxima community....11.912 1/4!!!!


turbo or supercharged????

i say turbo!!:biggrin:

:bigthumb:

Actually, he was supercharged.

ANY CAR can be a SLEEPER!!<quoted by DK Shadow

Actually your logic is the one that is flawed, case in point:

Would you call a Ferrari, Corvette or Porsche a sleeper? Hah, if you do then you wouldn't know what a Sleeper was if one was laying in the bed with you.

Also, to my man NSX, I know Volvos and I would expect any car (even a Volvo) to be able to beat me as long as it has an SC or Turbo/N20.

Obviously all of our definitions vary on what or what isn't a Sleeper, however it definitely isn't as Shadow pointed out so I raise his own :bs:
on him.

I just believe that when you know of a car's naturally aspirated performance (and you know it to already be respectful) and then you add Turbo/SC or n20 to it, then you no longer have a Sleeper. (remember that's if you already know of that car's capabilities and mods).

Originally posted by bk2kmax
ANY CAR can be a SLEEPER!!<quoted by DK Shadow

Actually your logic is the one that is flawed, case in point:

Would you call a Ferrari, Corvette or Porsche a sleeper? Hah, if you do then you wouldn't know what a Sleeper was if one was laying in the bed with you.

Also, to my man NSX, I know Volvos and I would expect any car (even a Volvo) to be able to beat me as long as it has an SC or Turbo/N20.

Obviously all of our definitions vary on what or what isn't a Sleeper, however it definitely isn't as Shadow pointed out so I raise his own :bs:
on him.

I just believe that when you know of a car's naturally aspirated performance (and you know it to already be respectful) and then you add Turbo/SC or n20 to it, then you no longer have a Sleeper. (remember that's if you already know of that car's capabilities and mods).
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sleep·er ( P ) Pronunciation Key (slpr)
n.
3. One that achieves unexpected recognition or success, as a racehorse or movie.
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
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Or a car...

When a car beats you that you never expected to do so, whether or not he used forced induction doesn't matter...he's still a sleeper.
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log·ic ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ljk)
n.

4. Valid reasoning:
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
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Since your reasoning is not valid, it's your logic that's flawed.

Please refrain from using any more words you know not the meaning of.

a car that is a sleeper is unexpectedly fast

last night at the races there was a crx with a custom wide body on the back and some focus altezza taillights and it said "ballin on a budget" on the back it was all diff colors and looked like shyt, me and my friends were thinkin.......some ricer who hangs out at the races and is slow as hell.......he raced a trans am *yes it was v8* and he missed 4th and lost only by about 1/4 of a car.....if he didnt miss 4th it would have been neck and neck....that thing was fast deff a sleeper

Originally posted by bk2kmax
ANY CAR can be a SLEEPER!!<quoted by DK Shadow

Actually your logic is the one that is flawed, case in point:


Blah blah blah.... You seemed to have a misinterpreted my post....


ANY CAR can be a SLEEPER!!<quoted by DK Shadow>


ANY car CAN be a SLEEPER

Look very closely at the words in CAPS.... Now look at CAN BE... I did not say that EVERY car IS a SLEEPER... See? :smile:

So you wouldnt call a Turboed CRX Hatch a sleeper? How about a Formula Firebird that has kept everything stock looking even down to the 16in wheels but internally has a TwinTurbo setup? If those arent sleepers... I want to see what you call Wakers... :biggrin:

This thought/question just came to mind... As blk2max said in his post...
Would you call a Ferrari, Corvette or Porsche a sleeper?
Im wondering... Can a Corvette or a Porsche be a sleeper? Say that the Corvette has a Lingenfelter 427TT setup but didnt opt to go with the bodykit, yet his C5 runs low to mid 10s... Is it a sleeper? How about a Porsche? If its a base model 911 and is beating up on Lambos and 'Rarris... Can it still vouch as being a sleeper for the Exotics? :dunno:
:smile:

Oooh... dont forget that TT Suv Porsche has or the Subaru Forrester... those are sleepers too, arent they?

Originally posted by DkShadow
This thought/question just came to mind... As blk2max said in his post...

Im wondering... Can a Corvette or a Porsche be a sleeper? Say that the Corvette has a Lingenfelter 427TT setup but didnt opt to go with the bodykit, yet his C5 runs low to mid 10s... Is it a sleeper? How about a Porsche? If its a base model 911 and is beating up on Lambos and 'Rarris... Can it still vouch as being a sleeper for the Exotics? :dunno:
:smile:

Oooh... dont forget that TT Suv Porsche has or the Subaru Forrester... those are sleepers too, arent they?

i don't really see a porsche/ferrari, or even corvette being capable of being a "sleeper". they look fast, everybody knows they're fast, and come damn fast from the factory. that cannot be a sleeper in my mind

Originally posted by thrasher


i don't really see a porsche/ferrari, or even corvette being capable of being a "sleeper". they look fast, everybody knows they're fast, and come damn fast from the factory. that cannot be a sleeper in my mind

Im aware of that but look who its being compared to... I was comparing them to exotics/supercars. If a Corvette is the poor mans sports car... wouldnt you think itd be a sleeper to the exotics? Definitely not a sleeper to your average car. :dunno:

C5s arent really THAT fast... low to mid 13 second cars. Can be out-edged by an f-body with a good driver




Edit: I might be stretching my point a little but every little bit counts :D

yea i must say, i do love my max. last night i smoked a 5spd sentra se-r spec-v w/ mods, a 1990's v8 camaro w/ mods, a 95 eclipse w/ mods in my "4 door family car":thefinger

Originally posted by bk2kmax
ANY CAR can be a SLEEPER!!<quoted by DK Shadow

Actually your logic is the one that is flawed, case in point:

Would you call a Ferrari, Corvette or Porsche a sleeper? Hah, if you do then you wouldn't know what a Sleeper was if one was laying in the bed with you.

Also, to my man NSX, I know Volvos and I would expect any car (even a Volvo) to be able to beat me as long as it has an SC or Turbo/N20.

Obviously all of our definitions vary on what or what isn't a Sleeper, however it definitely isn't as Shadow pointed out so I raise his own :bs:
on him.

I just believe that when you know of a car's naturally aspirated performance (and you know it to already be respectful) and then you add Turbo/SC or n20 to it, then you no longer have a Sleeper. (remember that's if you already know of that car's capabilities and mods).

Why are you talking about aftermarket turbos and superchargers and NOS? you do realise that the Volvo comes from the Factory with a Turbocharger?

Why can't an NA with an added turbo be a sleeper??


Actually i'm not sure if i understand any of your points at all. It doesn't seem to make a lot of sense no matter how i look at it.

Originally posted by DkShadow


Im aware of that but look who its being compared to... I was comparing them to exotics/supercars. If a Corvette is the poor mans sports car... wouldnt you think itd be a sleeper to the exotics? Definitely not a sleeper to your average car. :dunno:

C5s arent really THAT fast... low to mid 13 second cars. Can be out-edged by an f-body with a good driver




Edit: I might be stretching my point a little but every little bit counts :D

Just remember Jim Epler with his 4.8999 at 311MPH in his C5 :P
and BTW, Stock GTP vs Stock Maxima is a very close race with teh GTP coming out maybe a hood infront.
Raced one 3 times with the same results, but eh its boosted and has .8 more liters than I do.

speaking of max's and sleepers...... heres one for ya

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=197354

and the car that did that?

http://members.verizon.net/~vze4yqyk/

:chair: :owned: :worshippy :worshippy

Now THATS a sleeper.

Originally posted by Dominus_Servi
Now THATS a sleeper.

no shit...imagine rolling up next to that and evving....and then the light turns green......:eek:

now imagine that thing gutted? that would be hell of a fast car if he removed the simple things like seats, gutt the trunk and removed the spare:eek2:

Originally posted by Waveridr85
now imagine that thing gutted? that would be hell of a fast car if he removed the simple things like seats, gutt the trunk and removed the spare:eek2:

I posted his slip earlier, just plain ridiculous. Got a video of him smoking a highly-modded Camaro....

Originally posted by Waveridr85
now imagine that thing gutted? that would be hell of a fast car if he removed the simple things like seats, gutt the trunk and removed the spare:eek2:

I would much rather have a car that looks nice and is comfortable, as well as fast then just fast.