there is a LIAR here

for once, it's not melt i'm ranting about :eek:

TJ (Civic Rush) has been lying to everybody. to be honest i had figured most of this out before he moved here. jer & i decided it's one thing to lie over the internet 1500mi away....we wanted to see what would happen after he got here (give him benefit of doubt). man were we stupid!

it started with his car. when he was supposed to move here he told us he had 11 cars to move and he was going to give 1 to jer. this one...
http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/show_image.pl?image=member_img_a/306000-306999/306592_2_full.jpg
notice it has the same orange wipers and projectors as his car:
http://images.cardomain.com/member_img_a/306000-306999/306592_8_full.jpg

i went to the shop to talk to him. i started to talk to him when i was inturpted. convo went like this

me: tj, please don't say anything and let me say what i have to say.
tj: you have things twisted. i told you i took the front end off that car and stuck it on mine
me: no way tj. the car in the pic is the car in my driveway
tj: no matter what i say you won't believe me

so i left and went home. i showed the pic to angel (who is in the pic) and went back to the shop. convo went like this

me: tj, is that the same car outside my house? yes or no?
tj: no matter what i say you won't believe me
me: i said yes or no
tj: i told you i took...
angel: stop tj, i'm in the pic. that is the car outside

at that point i got him to admitt that this car outside my house is the same car he was supposed to give to jer
http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com/civic%20rush/civic_rush.jpg
note: she wrote happy birthday on his car. i changed it to happy LIAR :evillol:

long story short he lied about many things. rather than apologize or even try to make it better he decided to try and avoid me in my own house. not coming home until 1-2am when he thought we were alseep. and then not leave his room the next morning until he went to work. after 3 days i told him to pack his shit and leave. i'm not going to have someone lie to me...lie about the lies...and then try and duck out.

i'm not going to sit here and post up ALL the stuff he lied about. however here is the majority of the revelant stuff to af:

anyone remember the gold civic he posted up....he said some truck slid thru a stop sign and hit his gold civic, injuring his wrist. :headshake. when i was in ND i saw the car outside a junkyard. as we passed angel (his woman) pointed out the car and said "we tried to buy that hatch but the guy only wants to part it out"

anyone recognize these pics....
http://www.northernanimation.com/photogallery/shawnburnout2.jpg
http://www.northernanimation.com/photogallery/shawnww1.jpg
http://www.northernanimation.com/photogallery/shawnww16.jpg
those and all the others come from the Northern Animation Car Club site http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/9187/ if you look around all the wagon pics are titled Shawn. th NEVER owned a wagon of any kind

remember the story about someone vandalizing his car and dropping their wallet? and the next day tj went over with police and handed the guy his wallet. :headshake the real story his woman told me, not knowing he told the lie here at af. the truth: someone was pissed at him and took it out on his car. hmmmm, i wonder why? :disappoin

i feel everybody has a right to know about the lies. i recently found out everybody on my buddy list ended up in his list...including people that have never posted on af (my personal friends). i'm sure he's going to still try and im people

the really sad part? he met a new friend brett..TJ thinks trying to ignore what he did will make it go away. i know that poor guy brett has NO CLUE what has gone on.

MELT i apologize on TJ's behalf. i fully understand that him calling you a liar is 100% like the pot calling the kettle black.

damn thats some shit i guess, im so tired i dont even think i followed all that correctly, but always good to find the wannabee's and the true ricers in the crowd.

:eek: woah....

*looks at calander to make sure it aint April 1st*


...im speechless..

:rolleyes: doesnt she bring out the best in everybody.

Originally posted by Redline_civic91
:rolleyes: doesnt she bring out the best in everybody.

lmao...do you ever reply to anything that has something to do with you?

fubar.....straight fubar.....and it seems to be alot of going around...:disappoin

take his civic and :bananadie :bigthumb:

Thats bogus ...:mad:

That's really sad...there's no excuse for LYING...that's just a terrible thing to do. At least you found out soon enough although damage is already done.

Wow, that hatch looks pretty trashed... I really don't see the resemblance between it and the black one that he posted...

That's really weak, especially since you and Jer have been doing him a big favor by letting him live there until he gets his own place...

Kinda gives me another theory as to the where-abouts of my Neuspeed sway-bar... hmmmmmmm.

Originally posted by BLU CIVIC
take his civic and :bananadie :bigthumb:

so...you want me to take his car and run over his banana?

:spit:

..just leave my banana alone! that's all I'm sayin...

Originally posted by ci5ic
Wow, that hatch looks pretty trashed... I really don't see the resemblance between it and the black one that he posted...


the black hatch is a pic he took the day he rattle can sprayed it black. since then it was vandalized like the pics he posted...but not by someone who dropped their wallet. it was by someone with a score to settle. and since the car has been here he started stripping off the black spray paint.

like the blue on the rear quarter panel? that was another rattle can color he was considering

i see that one pic came up as a red x. here's the link to the pic

http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/show_image.pl?image=member_img_a/306000-306999/306592_2_full.jpg


edit: as for your bar mike, i'm 95% sure it wasn't tj. since may 10th jer had to go into the room and take everything out of the closet looking for a concrete drill bit. he found something that was taken from the shop and not paid for...but not your bar. i still think it's scandalist. everybody has come to me saying they suspected a certain someone...they all suspect the same person :frown:

damn, although it has no real affect on any of our lives, it does show how easy it is for sad people to lie on AF, when you dont have something you want or the best story to tell, they make it up, everybody take this as a lesson and dont follow that path, its better to be an honest person proud of what you have even if its stock will still give appreciation and props, then to be a liar thats brought out like this. Love you guys!

:iagree: i hope everything gets sorted away.

newbies learn too, if you lie, eventually you will be found out, so just talk the truth and none of this will happen.

Originally posted by LadyNRedSi


lmao...do you ever reply to anything that has something to do with you?


If you weren't the moderator and this thread was by someone else, for someone else, you'd probably lock it.. Wouldn't you? I would.. I don't see the point of this post.

hopefully you dont do this to me, since i still havent sent you those side moldings ami. i promise i will, i just need shipping money

damn I honestly thought this thread was gonna be about me when i opened it ....

I always had a feeling he didnt own all those cars ... especially after he said he would get pics of all of em and never did.

Originally posted by Melt
damn I honestly thought this thread was gonna be about me when i opened it ....


I think we all thought that. I still am very suprised about this though..

Originally posted by XxLuckyLisaxX
damn, although it has no real affect on any of our lives, it does show how easy it is for sad people to lie on AF, when you dont have something you want or the best story to tell, they make it up, everybody take this as a lesson and dont follow that path, its better to be an honest person proud of what you have even if its stock will still give appreciation and props, then to be a liar thats brought out like this. Love you guys!

well said Lisa, well said!


and Ami, that sux alot! atleast u found out sooner before other stuff started happening, like stuff missing from ur house and such

and in case anyone is wondering just to clear everything up ... this is what TJ got all heated at me about.

Francois is actually my given first name, however I have gone by Melt which is my middle name my entire life, and often dont even remember that francois is my first name ... everyone knows me as Melt. I have the same exact name as my dad, and both my parents ever since i was a little kid called me Melt also.

Somehow, TJ found out my first name, and then got pissed because I told everyone my name was Melt.

Anyways, i hope nobody else suddenly becomes offended by the fact that I have always told everyone my name is melt, because seriously its all I know, and I have NEVER been called Francois by anyone.

Originally posted by SiZ



If you weren't the moderator and this thread was by someone else, for someone else, you'd probably lock it.. Wouldn't you? I would.. I don't see the point of this post.

not true at all. only threads that are directed at a specific person is locked due to a pm could have been sent. anytime there is a thread about fraud it is left open. even threads that are mod pointing the finger at another mod (like trinity vs moppie). matter of fact...isn't there a thread about slammed89civic being a fruad at this very moment? think before you speak man!

maybe you don't get the point because you weren't dealing with him. i'm sure the people with pending transactions with tj (stuff he was supposed to sell & stuff to buy) care to know.

which reminds me....tj listed a b20 and power steering set-up for sale while i was in ND. NOT HIS! DO NOT BUY FROM HIM!

1PhatCX, we seached his car on sunday and found some of our parts we got to convert hooptie from AT to MT (like pedal assembly and clutch cable) stuff that was specifically sitting with our other stuff under a tarp.....so yea, this really goes A LOT further than you know :frown:

Originally posted by Melt
and in case anyone is wondering just to clear everything up ... this is what TJ got all heated at me about.

Francois is actually my given first name, however I have gone by Melt which is my middle name my entire life, and often dont even remember that francois is my first name ... everyone knows me as Melt. I have the same exact name as my dad, and both my parents ever since i was a little kid called me Melt also.

Somehow, TJ found out my first name, and then got pissed because I told everyone my name was Melt.

Anyways, i hope nobody else suddenly becomes offended by the fact that I have always told everyone my name is melt, because seriously its all I know, and I have NEVER been called Francois by anyone.

when me and john talk about you we call you francois ;) , but dont worry...i think Melt suits you better anyway.. a weird name for a weird guy :D (and i mean that in the nicest way)

Originally posted by LadyNRedSi
1PhatCX, we seached his car on sunday and found some of our parts we got to convert hooptie from AT to MT (like pedal assembly and clutch cable) stuff that was specifically sitting with our other stuff under a tarp.....so yea, this really goes A LOT further than you know :frown:

holy shit, not cool ami! hope u get everything back, and u guys should try to charge him for theft

Originally posted by Melt
and in case anyone is wondering just to clear everything up ... this is what TJ got all heated at me about.

Francois is actually my given first name, however I have gone by Melt which is my middle name my entire life, and often dont even remember that francois is my first name ... everyone knows me as Melt. I have the same exact name as my dad, and both my parents ever since i was a little kid called me Melt also.

Somehow, TJ found out my first name, and then got pissed because I told everyone my name was Melt.

Anyways, i hope nobody else suddenly becomes offended by the fact that I have always told everyone my name is melt, because seriously its all I know, and I have NEVER been called Francois by anyone.

thats crazy man, melts easier 2 say hehe, but thats a cool middle name! :bigthumb:

Originally posted by LadyNRedSi
1PhatCX, we seached his car on sunday and found some of our parts we got to convert hooptie from AT to MT (like pedal assembly and clutch cable) stuff that was specifically sitting with our other stuff under a tarp.....so yea, this really goes A LOT further than you know :frown:

:eek2: .... I thought he was better than that.

even though the only car outside AT is hooptie, i just know i'll get an excuse of some sort how he thought it was his. :rolleyes: at this point ijust want his P.O.S. out of my driveway.

poor jer still has to work with him :thumbsdow

what his name on here cause im confused.

Originally posted by LadyNRedSi
even though the only car outside AT is hooptie, i just know i'll get an excuse of some sort how he thought it was his. :rolleyes: at this point ijust want his P.O.S. out of my driveway.

poor jer still has to work with him :thumbsdow

tell jer that ill come work with him instead ;) i dont have much experience but i learn fast :D

Originally posted by 88CRX
what his name on here cause im confused.

Civic Rush

:banhim:

Originally posted by LadyNRedSi

the really sad part? he met a new friend brett..TJ thinks trying to ignore what he did will make it go away. i know that poor guy brett has NO CLUE what has gone on.



Bret?
as in me?
cause i had no idea what tj was doin
kinda wondered why he was bein weried latly
and all of a sudden he get rid of "his" wagon
well oh well it is the internet

WOW. I have no idea what to say. Well i hope that everything gets sorted out between you peps.

Originally posted by Jetts



Bret?
as in me?
cause i had no idea what tj was doin
kinda wondered why he was bein weried latly
and all of a sudden he get rid of "his" wagon
well oh well it is the internet

naw, another brett who lives here in oregon

Whoa i just read this and thats some wacked out stuff. I hope you can sort everything out. Its a shame that something like this happened to you but esp cause you were letting him live there trying to be a good friend and getting repaid like that. I know what thats like its really hard but everyone here and I are with you.

awhhhh shiat!

You know he could talk the talk but i figured i wasnt gonna make him walk the walks since i dont know much myself ... its always great to find out someones been duppin you the whole time ... and to think he would do that to people who were so good to him too ... thats so fucking low and shady ... grrr ...:comprage1

Originally posted by nemo_wolf
awhhhh shiat!

You know he could talk the talk but i figured i wasnt gonna make him walk the walks since i dont know much myself ... its always great to find out someones been duppin you the whole time ... and to think he would do that to people who were so good to him too ... thats so fucking low and shady ... grrr ...:comprage1

:werd:

Hope you get everything worked out though Ami.

WOW..... i dont know what to say, he kept on trying to buy parts for my car and wouldnt leave me a lone.... psyco i tell ya........

again this sux to anyone who has been scammed by anyone, buch a losers on the net man, i tell ya.

wow that sucks..... i guess i missed this whole story...ive been so out of it the last month or so....


gunnmen01

So this guy lives at your house and pretends to own many cars he doesn't not and in return for letting him stay he was to give you a fixed up Hatch that turned out to be a major piece of shit?

Originally posted by FourthGenHatch
So this guy lives at your house and pretends to own many cars he doesn't not and in return for letting him stay he was to give you a fixed up Hatch that turned out to be a major piece of shit?

that seems right to me.

Originally posted by FourthGenHatch
So this guy lives at your house and pretends to own many cars he doesn't not and in return for letting him stay he was to give you a fixed up Hatch that turned out to be a major piece of shit?

not exactly. he was living at my house because he wanted to move from ND and we were being nice. i could careless about the car. that was just one of the many things he lied about....the big post about catching the thug who vandalized his car :disappoin

to set you straight on the car. he said he didn't have any where to put his "project std" when he moved....said he was going to bring it for jer. turns out there was no "project std"....it was really his car he later spray painted black.

but it wasn't about the car. have you seen my driveway? i already have 3 Civics' (hopefully 4 after tomorrow). it's more the point about the lying and then when i asked him to come straight with it...he still told me i had things all wrong and i "forgot".

make sense now?

makes a shit load of sence to me,
dont really wanna bring it up, but i'm curious, since i havent seen him on here for a long time, did he get banned? or does he just not have somewhere to post from? kinda curious on that one, PM me if u dont feel like sayin on here

and again, that royaly sux Ami! if I didnt live in Ontario and i lived down by u, i would do everything i could to help out :smile:

Thats a Fugly HB. Get that thing out your driveway. rattle can paint sux when sanding..what a waste of a car...shouldnt lie to kick it...lying about having a cool car is pretty immature but oh well

Speaking of liars...
everyone look at this...
http://www.onlineshowoff.com/index.asp?section=profile&username=1point6

Is horrible when people can do things like this and get away with it...

Originally posted by Killa_CRX
Speaking of liars...
everyone look at this...
http://www.onlineshowoff.com/index.asp?section=profile&username=1point6

Is horrible when people can do things like this and get away with it...

if you look at the bottom of that page it links to, it says that they were gonna swap in a zc and sell the car and b16 seperatly. Which means thats the guy sparq probably got the 4 door from.

Originally posted by GTA


if you look at the bottom of that page it links to, it says that they were gonna swap in a zc and sell the car and b16 seperatly. Which means thats the guy sparq probably got the 4 door from.

Still... what about the rest of those pictures of his? not all the colors match... one of the pictures is the interior picture of a hatchback (with red exterior paint and wrong color interior)... the picture of the car with the white rims would have to be a "before the paint job and steelies" picture because all the side mouldings being unpainted... (conveniently rims sold... but no mention of a paint job)... also there's that sticker on his rear window in that picture....
Now I could just be paranoid... but ah well. I'd like to hear from sparq on this one.

SHIT, i would never had guessed , he said he might have been able to get me a WW kit from his "rep" , which turned out not to be possible, then he said i could have a set of chrome projectors off him for $75 which he said he "let Ami borrow for a show" , and then i never heard anymore from him about em,

Originally posted by civic 16valver
SHIT, i would never had guessed , he said he might have been able to get me a WW kit from his "rep" , which turned out not to be possible, then he said i could have a set of chrome projectors off him for $75 which he said he "let Ami borrow for a show" , and then i never heard anymore from him about em,


yea i got the same ww kit thing from him too
god thing i started a business and coulda got them from myself for the same price a little more, but i know i wouldnt get scammed

Originally posted by Jetts



yea i got the same ww kit thing from him too
god thing i started a business and coulda got them from myself for the same price a little more, but i know i wouldnt get scammed

how much can u get me a kit shipped to the UK for then m8 ;)

PM wiv a price :D

Originally posted by civic 16valver


how much can u get me a kit shipped to the UK for then m8 ;)

PM wiv a price :D


ight

Ouch. That sucks.

At the risk of being flippant: "News at 8: Liars on the internet!!!"

Hope you get it all sorted Ami.

Cheers

..I've been lying too guys :( I dont have an audi.......

Dont worry nobody is perfect (only me)

But i thought it was just a real good front end conversion in your Avatar :bloated: lol

Originally posted by marked001
..I've been lying too guys :( I dont have an audi.......

wait a second... you stole that car you drove to the pa meet didn't you, just so you wouldn't look like a lair! muhahaha i found you out

thanks for the info.

its tough enough being a noob :icon16: , but to have to worry about scammers is too much.

hope you get everything sorted out.

damn tho...why the fuck do niggas got to lie bout things like this...
btw...LadyNRedSi, what are u goin to do with the civic?

wot about his girlfriend?

i talked to her online, or wasnt that her

Originally posted by civic 16valver
wot about his girlfriend?

i talked to her online, or wasnt that her

...that was a guy...hope you didnt go too far jim ;)




haha... j/k :thefinger