Stop Chris Bangle petition
Celsdogg
07-08-2003, 09:12 AM
I was reading about the Z4 in the March 2003 issue of Business 2.0, and it mentioned that there was a Stop Chris Bangle petition. it also said that there is a german one. the one here in the states has 4,206 signatures and says:
"The undersigned thank you, BMW, for creating our dream cars. Please continue doing so, fire Chris Bangle, and do no allow him to design (ruin) any more of your wonderful BMWs."
needless to say, i want to find this petition and add my name to it. does anyone know anything about it?
"The undersigned thank you, BMW, for creating our dream cars. Please continue doing so, fire Chris Bangle, and do no allow him to design (ruin) any more of your wonderful BMWs."
needless to say, i want to find this petition and add my name to it. does anyone know anything about it?
NSX
07-08-2003, 10:59 PM
What did he do that was so bad?
Celsdogg
07-09-2003, 09:24 AM
for starters the new 7, the z4, and the upcoming 5. . .
i just wish they made the z3's body as rigid as they made the z4's, but i guess thats what you get when you throw together a car. . .
i just wish they made the z3's body as rigid as they made the z4's, but i guess thats what you get when you throw together a car. . .
TexasF355F1
07-09-2003, 12:27 PM
Personally I love the new 7 series. I think its design is incredibly beautiful.
Ringo
07-09-2003, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by TexasF355F1
Personally I love the new 7 series. I think its design is incredibly beautiful.
No whay, the generation before was way more handsome, actually it looked like an architectural masterpiece. This new 7 looks atrocious like a Hunday.
We want nicer BMWs!!
Fire Chris Bangle!!
Strap him to the chair!!
Fry his ass!!
That new 5 series looked like it was designed by a rabid designer that went crazy on the clay model with his razor blade, and the Z4 as well.
:biggrin2:
Personally I love the new 7 series. I think its design is incredibly beautiful.
No whay, the generation before was way more handsome, actually it looked like an architectural masterpiece. This new 7 looks atrocious like a Hunday.
We want nicer BMWs!!
Fire Chris Bangle!!
Strap him to the chair!!
Fry his ass!!
That new 5 series looked like it was designed by a rabid designer that went crazy on the clay model with his razor blade, and the Z4 as well.
:biggrin2:
RACER D12
07-09-2003, 04:36 PM
And what the hell did he do to the BMW headlights? They used to look like mean eyes, but now the lights make the car look like its half asleep. I however dont mind the Z4 THAT much. And the rest of new cars are not that THAT bad compared to other car companies but they are not up to BMW par. What do you guys think about the new 1&6 series?
NSX
07-09-2003, 04:49 PM
I haven't seen the 1 & 6 series yet;
BUt the new 3-series looks nice;
I like the headlights more than the prev. ones; they look sleeker.
BUt the new 3-series looks nice;
I like the headlights more than the prev. ones; they look sleeker.
RACER D12
07-09-2003, 05:08 PM
Well to each his own I guess. I will still get a BMW anyways I mean Bangle cant live forever right?
buymeabmwm3
07-10-2003, 08:19 AM
Well, to look on the bright side, all these new ugly cars are only going to drive up the value and demand for my old handsome e30 :bigthumb:
Celsdogg
07-10-2003, 09:29 AM
i guess that might be true, last time i checked my E30 in mint condition was like 8 or 9 k. that was over a year ago tho.
but it was always my dream to get a brand new E46 330Ci or M3, i just cant now, and the way things are going, i dont think i will want to buy a brand new bimmer. . .
but it was always my dream to get a brand new E46 330Ci or M3, i just cant now, and the way things are going, i dont think i will want to buy a brand new bimmer. . .
Celsdogg
07-10-2003, 09:33 AM
i guess that might be true, last time i checked my E30 in mint condition was like 8 or 9 k. that was over a year ago tho.
but it was always my dream to get a brand new E46 330Ci or M3, i just cant now, and the way things are going, i dont think i will want to buy a brand new bimmer. . .
the z4 i and the 7 are great cars, nobody complains about anything about these cars besides the look. i mean under the skin, they are still pure bmw quality. however i forgot to mention complaints about the 7s iDrive, but other then that the complaints are all about the way it looks. . .
in any case, does anyone have any info on this petition?
but it was always my dream to get a brand new E46 330Ci or M3, i just cant now, and the way things are going, i dont think i will want to buy a brand new bimmer. . .
the z4 i and the 7 are great cars, nobody complains about anything about these cars besides the look. i mean under the skin, they are still pure bmw quality. however i forgot to mention complaints about the 7s iDrive, but other then that the complaints are all about the way it looks. . .
in any case, does anyone have any info on this petition?
LSR
07-10-2003, 09:36 AM
I signed this petition. Can you sign a petition twice on petition-online, or does it ban your IP? I have a dynamic IP :biggrin:
The petition should be too kill Chris Bangle via capital punishment, so that the fool can't go to another car company and ruin their nice designs. This petition has been around for ages and I don't think it has had mich effect because Bangle is still designing (or trying to design) cars. :redface: :mad: :frown: :confused: :bloated:
The petition should be too kill Chris Bangle via capital punishment, so that the fool can't go to another car company and ruin their nice designs. This petition has been around for ages and I don't think it has had mich effect because Bangle is still designing (or trying to design) cars. :redface: :mad: :frown: :confused: :bloated:
blke36bimmer
07-10-2003, 10:07 AM
How quickly we all forget.... E36 style was outrageous when introduced, people whined and said how ugly it was. It is a part of being in love with the greatest car manufacturer that you have to deal with. Its called change... you can either lead or follow and BMW has always chosen to lead...Others will follow this design.. Just watch. If the design is so offensive then maybe you should switch to Hondas, their changes are very subtle and follow the current market trends....as for design..well, I'd be willing to bet it wasnt just one person who made the call...so get off your high horse and be proud to own one of these masterpieces....
Celsdogg
07-10-2003, 10:28 AM
i wasnt around bimmers when the E36 was introduced, however of all 3ers i would have to say it is my least favorite. not bad, just not my fave.
other car companys have been making odd looking designs too, i also voice my dislike for those designs as well.
this is my opinion, your entitled to yours.
maybe it was not only him, but there is a reason that the 7 is going under a face lift this summer. i read in bimmer magazine that this summer they are taking the 7 and changing some of the design elements so that by fall a different look will be achieved. i wonder what the reason for this is. . .
other car companys have been making odd looking designs too, i also voice my dislike for those designs as well.
this is my opinion, your entitled to yours.
maybe it was not only him, but there is a reason that the 7 is going under a face lift this summer. i read in bimmer magazine that this summer they are taking the 7 and changing some of the design elements so that by fall a different look will be achieved. i wonder what the reason for this is. . .
Scooter086
07-12-2003, 04:17 PM
personally i love the z4, i think it looks like a shark (am i crazy?) but as for all the other body changes like the 7 series, i hate it. i liked it when a bmw looked like a bmw. now they look like any other luxury car :frown:
gigatron
07-12-2003, 06:07 PM
I want this petition! Where's the url?
The new BMWs SUCK ASS!!!!!!!
Bimmers should be like in the old days.. E30 (late 80s 3 series), E31 (early 90s 8xx series), the amazing 6 series! DAMN IT.. Where has BMW gone wrong? BMWs don't look like BMWs anymore!
The new BMWs SUCK ASS!!!!!!!
Bimmers should be like in the old days.. E30 (late 80s 3 series), E31 (early 90s 8xx series), the amazing 6 series! DAMN IT.. Where has BMW gone wrong? BMWs don't look like BMWs anymore!
donmbmw
07-13-2003, 09:28 AM
Reading this post reminds me of me reading Rondel magazine. It seems that there is a hard core group of beemerphiles who think that the design of the bmw should have stopped with the 2002. Personally I thought the 7 series was beautiful except for the bulging trunk lid, then the whole design just sort of grew on me and the car looks fabulous to me now. The photos of the new 5 series are gorgeous. I have only seen one spy shot of the upcomming 3 series. Anyone have links to more spy shots?
BMWTECH
07-14-2003, 07:22 AM
Not to step on toes but whoever started this thread and whoever wants this guy dead???? needs to wake up and realize that times change and cars change and people change. Everyone is entitled to their oppinion but you want someone dead?? or fired? Wake up and smell the coffee dude. The seven series was designed (body) by a team in an art institute in Cali. I hope you don't think that One Guy can design a car by himself. It takes a team and feed back from people to change designs. People wanted a new fresh look and they got it. If you don't like the new designs of these cars, thats fine, just realize that some people like fresh new ideas for these vehicles. The whole new lineup of BMW's take a little to get used to, but if you had the pleasure to work on these cars you would realize what they are made of. Just my .02
Celsdogg
07-14-2003, 09:15 AM
hey now, dont pick on he guy that started the thread. . . because you also have a petition with iver 4000 names on it that feel the same way. i think the petition would also go to bmw and let them know how some of us feel about the new designs too, not only to get him fired. also, i dont want him dead. . . i am sure none of us do.
also, i would like to say once more, its still a bimmer on the inside, no one complains about that, its just some of the way things look. . .
also, i would like to say once more, its still a bimmer on the inside, no one complains about that, its just some of the way things look. . .
BMWTECH
07-14-2003, 10:12 AM
Hey Cels, not picking on the guy who started the thread entirely, just stating that it isn't just one guy that designs these cars. The petition for him to be fired is in my eyes kinda dumb. You have to realize, if you do one thing wrong in your job in a customers eyes, would you want to get fired because of it. Generally speaking the car is an awesome car, inside and out. It takes some getting used to at first, but once you realize the thought process behind the vehicles design, it all makes sense. I have been to school on the new 7's and the concept and technology behind these vehicles floors me.
Celsdogg
07-14-2003, 12:09 PM
BMWTECH:
of course it still has BMW innovation and technology! its stil a great car, but i hear things about the iDrive.
are you a mechanic? it seems from your expertise and s/n that you are a certified bmw mechanic. is that true? where do work here in md?
ever since i got my E30 i have this slight urge to want to be a bimmer mechanic. i mean just leave my web development job for it, but i dont think i have the guts to do it. . .
of course it still has BMW innovation and technology! its stil a great car, but i hear things about the iDrive.
are you a mechanic? it seems from your expertise and s/n that you are a certified bmw mechanic. is that true? where do work here in md?
ever since i got my E30 i have this slight urge to want to be a bimmer mechanic. i mean just leave my web development job for it, but i dont think i have the guts to do it. . .
BMWTECH
07-14-2003, 12:44 PM
hey cels. Yes I am a BMW Technician. I prefer not to say where I work. The iDrive system is a complex tool that once you get to know is as easy as driving the car. A push of a button and moving it a certain way gets a different control of the car. Its alot better looking and less clutterd this way with a bunch of buttons and knobs that would be hard to find and figure out. Just new innovations, thats all.
Grande
07-14-2003, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by BMWTECH
The seven series was designed (body) by a team in an art institute in Cali. I hope you don't think that One Guy can design a car by himself
Where they working as a team though. It looks like each guy worked on a different section of the car without checking each others work, and then they bangled it together.
BMW can't depend on brand loyal customers alone.
I was waiting to finish college to get a new one, but not if they look like that!
The seven series was designed (body) by a team in an art institute in Cali. I hope you don't think that One Guy can design a car by himself
Where they working as a team though. It looks like each guy worked on a different section of the car without checking each others work, and then they bangled it together.
BMW can't depend on brand loyal customers alone.
I was waiting to finish college to get a new one, but not if they look like that!
blke36bimmer
07-15-2003, 09:32 AM
Just say some shots of the new 6 and I think that anyone who thinks it is anything but pure BMW is crazy... It is awesome. It even looks fast standing still. have any doubts?? check out DTMpower.net, they have some pics... and if this is a result of CHris Bangle's design... well, keep up the GREAT work!!!
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