Auto with Nitrous???

I have a "93 sohc non-vtec automatic and was wondering if i could add nitrous. If so how much could i use and whats a good brand?

Yes you can add nitrous to anything pretty much. As far as your application I would suggest not going over 50hp shot with the stock internals. I personaly like NOS and Nitrous Express they use wet kits which IMO are the best way to go if you are serious about using nitrous and plan on using bigger shots in the future or are planning on getting a new car b/c you can use the same kit on almost anything, mine came off a C5 Corvette:bigthumb:

dude..dont even consider NOS untill you get a 5spd its a waste of time.

Originally posted by EFStali
dude..dont even consider NOS untill you get a 5spd its a waste of time.

Why not? I know ppl who have it in there autos and it does nicely.

Originally posted by EFStali
dude..dont even consider NOS untill you get a 5spd its a waste of time.

Yet another auto hater...

Anywayz, N2O is fine on an auto tranny...

no..i have an auto..your just cheating yourself out of alot with an automatic car, i mean yea my car is slow as anything but im atleast saving up to by a 5spd tranny

Originally posted by EFStali
no..i have an auto..your just cheating yourself out of alot with an automatic car, i mean yea my car is slow as anything but im atleast saving up to by a 5spd tranny
The nitrous will already be on the car then when ya finally get the 5spd and until then you can have some fun.

P.S NOS stands for Nitrous Oxide Systems

Nawss is a ricers stupid term and is hated here.

i say go for it. but don't expect your engine to run forever if you don't build up the internals.

Originally posted by EFStali
no..i have an auto..your just cheating yourself out of alot with an automatic car, i mean yea my car is slow as anything but im atleast saving up to by a 5spd tranny

How much would a 5spd be to buy and put on

with products for the junkyard and labor will cost somewhere around $1500

auto to manual can get pricey. gotta find someone to do it too. and nitrous works just as well with autos as it does manuals. i know someone that went thru 30 bottles in 3 weeks before he finally blew his motor on an older crx. just don't be stupid and spray when its pointless and you'll probally find nitrous is a nice thing. just go for a 50 shot and when you know you're going to race you can do a 75 just retard the timeing a few degrees. almost anything in moderation is ok.

Thanks you guys. Which would be a good Nitrous system(more bang for the buck). Also how hard is it to install?:D

If it was me i'll go with direct port. i really wouldn't sugest you try to install this yourself. any leak would be very dangerous.

zex is the way to go with honda's i wouldent use anything else on one, provide enough fuel and you'll be good, building internalls isnt needed for a 50 shot, stock motor should hold out fine, biggers shots would need more fuel anything over 85 shot regularly would need some internals

dry kit is better IMO

Get a wet single nossle fogger kit from NOS or NX. It is easy to install just follow the directions and ask us if you have any questions. Also a direct port kit will be too much for your car unless you are planning on building the motor, the direct port kits start at 80hp and go up, but with ht esingle nossle fogger you can go as low as 25hp :bigthumb:

wouldent you say the zex would be better? hes new and zex is the easiest and safter since the intake manifold was designed to flow gasses and not liquid? not gonna have a big shot......ide say go zex for now

That purple bottle have to go.

Originally posted by civicHBsi91
wouldent you say the zex would be better? hes new and zex is the easiest and safter since the intake manifold was designed to flow gasses and not liquid? not gonna have a big shot......ide say go zex for now

Well I have heard alot of mixed results from zex, I know 1st hand one bad result. I personaly don't like dry kits but the newer kits seem to be ok, so a dry kit would be good to start out on and learn, but if you start to get hooked and want to run bigger shots and use it more often then I would suggest a wet kit. You will be happy and safe either way as long as you learn about what you are doing before you go and use the N20:bigthumb:

well for an auto D series, i would deff recomend the purple bottle, he can always sell it, and me im going with the purple bottle.....12's are in the future :iceslolan

ok...i'm kinda in a same situation thinkin bout gettin nitrous on my auto! .....i talked to a guy from a speed shop and he recommended nitrous express kit! purge kit....and he said i should be able to run a 60-75...and i should run 60 to be on safe side....anyways...wat kinda internals should i build up if i wanna run higher shot....or what should i upgrade?

Originally posted by Civic98
ok...i'm kinda in a same situation thinkin bout gettin nitrous on my auto! .....i talked to a guy from a speed shop and he recommended nitrous express kit! purge kit....and he said i should be able to run a 60-75...and i should run 60 to be on safe side....anyways...wat kinda internals should i build up if i wanna run higher shot....or what should i upgrade?

On a stock d series I would not go over 60hp wet!

internals shouldent be needed, fuel and your good.....for dry kit anyway, im not much on the wet's so listen to the man that knows

Originally posted by civicHBsi91
internals shouldent be needed, fuel and your good.....for dry kit anyway, im not much on the wet's so listen to the man that knows

so ur talkin about like....fuel rail, fuel pressure regulator,...wat else??

fuel pump, injectors maybe, fpr......feul rail if you want....

All dry kits have a fuel pressure regulator with them right, that is what the vacum hoses are that you connect to the purple box, Well it is not a pressure regulator like you are thinking but it does raise the fuel pressure when you spray. I think for a shot 60hp and under you will be fine without any mods except I would do the basic I/H/E to optimise the effects of he nitrous. Good luck :bigthumb:
As far as a wet kit you are probably better off starting with a dry kit, just make sure you install it correctly and check everything 3 times before you use it for the first time, I say 3 times because it never hurts to be a little extra careful but it will hurt your wallet alot if you are not careful and miss something :bigthumb:

a internally stock d series will hold a 75 shot with enough fuel.....start low shots.....be safe

Originally posted by civicHBsi91
a internally stock d series will hold a 75 shot with enough fuel.....start low shots.....be safe

Are you sure about a 75hp shot on a D series? I think that is pushing it , just like ppl who run 100hp shots on B18B1's I think relaiblity will be drastically reduced. Also I have heard that the D series motors have weak rods, is this true? I am just saying that I think tha 60hp is a safe limit and not pushing it to the edge if you know what I mean.

the d15's have the weak rods, sorry i should have said d16, it is pushing it but with the fuel it shouldent be a problem if you spray at the track and such you know not just going spray crazy and yea 60 shot sounds good, im gonna upgrade my fuel system and run a 75 at the track, probably 50-55 on the streets

i know that setup with bolt on's would get me low 13's, with grip ofcourse heck....might even see 12's ive got alot of learning and tuning to do tho

ok, I have to add something about the 5 speed swap.

I was lucky and found a driving wrecked civic og the same generation for 300 bucxks, and that is all it costs.


it was completely screwed, crinkled susp tower and frame and all body was F'd, but it went down the rode(pulled HARD left though). so i had a good tranny.

alls i did was rip out the auto linkage, pull engine/trans from both, swithch torque converter/flex plate to a flywheel, swapped the clutch to my car, used the harness from the wrecked car, put in the engine again and thenput in the shift linkage. had to drill 2 holes in the tunnnel to bolt up the linkage but for 300 bucks and a couple days in the carport I had a 5 speed. might need to get a friend to move the mount though.

but just bolt the engine one, the rear trans one, the lower engine one, and then support the trans, grind off the upper trans one, bolt in the lower trans mount, use the jack and the cherry picker to get the engine situated in a good angle, bolt the mount that was on the fram to the trans, and wherever it is hiting the framw, weld it back on.

DONE

and i did go to the 5 speed computer a couple days later but the auto one worked fine, not sure if the harness could have worked, but didnt want to chance it cuz it wasmuch easier to do with engine out.

and you wont have back up lights no more and you have to leave thee thing in that says park and whsat not and so it starts. but if you get the whole car ;like I did, I completely swapped EVERY wire in the car so i got everything like you would in a car that came a manual. and the wiring could be done in a day of work i bet, took me a few cuz i didnt get to start on it til like 6 each day.

Originally posted by civicHBsi91
a internally stock d series will hold a 75 shot with enough fuel.....start low shots.....be safe

The internals might hold but the tranny won't, if the motor doesn't go the tranny WILL(trust me)on a 75 shot, a 60 shot is pushing it too.

Whatever you end up getting, NEVER engage below 3000rpm or in first gear. It will shock the motor and tranny and will drastically improve your chances of breaking something.

However, two guys I knew followed these rules and their transmissions both froze the same week. One was running a 75 shot on a D15, the other a 75 on an LS-VTEC.

NOS is not a item for daily driving, don't use it everytime you feel like passing someone. If you only use it occasionally on the strip(not street) and stay at a 50 shot, your car will last a while but not forever. Sooner or later you will encounter a prob because of the NOS. I would just save the $500 and be that much closer to a new engine, or suspension mod, or whatever. Your car was not meant to have an instant double of its power and last.

Good Luck

Originally posted by spooleffect
The internals might hold but the tranny won't, if the motor doesn't go the tranny WILL(trust me)on a 75 shot, a 60 shot is pushing it too.
Whatever you end up getting, NEVER engage below 3000rpm or in first gear. It will shock the motor and tranny and will drastically improve your chances of breaking something.
However, two guys I knew followed these rules and their transmissions both froze the same week. One was running a 75 shot on a D15, the other a 75 on an LS-VTEC.

By tranny you mean clutch, I'm assuming? I've seen Honda trannies holding WELL OVER 300hp every single day.

i think he meant the auto tranny wont hold that power. im not sure about hondas auto trannys strength but i know they arent the best autos out there. now if you swap in a ZF tranny you can have well over 400hp and have no problem. too bad ZF doesnt make honda trannies:biggrin:

Originally posted by Self


By tranny you mean clutch, I'm assuming? I've seen Honda trannies holding WELL OVER 300hp every single day.

Im just going off what I have seen, I wasn't talking about the clutches either. The two cars I was talking about froze their trannies. The point I was trying to make was that the D15 tranny won't hold. I would have thought any B motor tranny would hold but one of the cars I saw had an S80 and it still froze. He might have had a lemon but when you put this aside Im talking mainly about the D15 tranny(L3?), It probably could hold 250+hp from a Turbo but not from NOS. The instant shock of NOS is the reason the tranny will not hold. Both of the cars I was talking about had NOS.

300hp every single day? (Im not talking about the trannies here) If 300hp then not every single day or not running the max out of whatever gives the car that much power i.e. lower boost setting or no NOS everyday.

Originally posted by spooleffect

300hp every single day? (Im not talking about the trannies here) If 300hp then not every single day or not running the max out of whatever gives the car that much power i.e. lower boost setting or no NOS everyday.

No, I'm talking about cars with 300hp every single day, to and from work and whatnot. Transmissions are fine. But then again, like you said, different situation as they are turbocharged cars, not nitrous-induced vehicles.

It didn't suprise me that the DX Tranny didn't hold but it did surprise me when the LS Y80 didn't. If I ever had NOS on anything I would have a progressive shot, the instant shot is bad news for street oriented daily drivers.

BTW- I like your sig quote man:bigthumb: There is no replacement!

the only way i would squezze if i knew my motor and trannie was built for it

once again......no one knows anything about nitrous.....

Originally posted by civicHBsi91
once again......no one knows anything about nitrous.....

What is it that nobody knows?

I'm just going off what I've seen. Two Civics with a 75shot, Two trannies that froze in the same week.

i wasent talking about you

NP

My Bad.

Originally posted by civicHBsi91
i wasent talking about you

So that leaves...Me and turbvroom then...???

Originally posted by Self


So that leaves...Me and turbvroom then...???

LOL

I wonder who then????:wink:

yea self! go read a book! only reason your a mod is cuz your the token black guy and your supposed to say stuff like "word" and "that is wack!"

Originally posted by whtteg


Are you sure about a 75hp shot on a D series? I think that is pushing it , just like ppl who run 100hp shots on B18B1's I think relaiblity will be drastically reduced. Also I have heard that the D series motors have weak rods, is this true? I am just saying that I think tha 60hp is a safe limit and not pushing it to the edge if you know what I mean.

what he said.

Originally posted by whtteg
Yes you can add nitrous to anything pretty much. As far as your application I would suggest not going over 50hp shot with the stock internals. I personaly like NOS and Nitrous Express they use wet kits which IMO are the best way to go if you are serious about using nitrous and plan on using bigger shots in the future or are planning on getting a new car b/c you can use the same kit on almost anything,...

What he said...again.

yes hes established that.......

Originally posted by civicHBsi91
yea self! go read a book! only reason your a mod is cuz your the token black guy and your supposed to say stuff like "word" and "that is wack!"

Word:bigthumb:
But in all seriousness...What are you doing tomorrow man? Saturday evening? Have a group of about 50 people together heading down to MIR if you would like to come along...I would say you could just ride with me, BUT...Only room for two in a C5, and my lady friend is riding shotgun:biggrin: But if you wanna roll with us, drop me a PM with your number and/or AIM screenname:smile:

thanks for the offer, but this week is kinda tight, and im dead broke and my car is kinda running shyty right now, my aim sn is pun2700, i would deff roll another time, just this week is kinda tight for me