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B20 Stroker?


dtmamg
07-06-2003, 04:23 PM
Anybody ever built a B20 stroker? I'm looking to get a new car soon, and up until recently I was going to get something like a 5.0 liter Mustang or a LT1/LS1 F-body. Due to insurance reasons, however, there's no way I'd be able to keep either of these on the road (just got 2 tickets for Unsafe Start/Improper U-turn doing donuts in a friends 328i). So now I'm looking to get a Civic hatchback, probably an Hx or Cx (doesn't get much cheaper to insure than that) and dropping in a fully built naturally aspirated B series. Just wanted to know if anyone had ever stroked a B20 and what rod length did you use as well as where did you get the crank/rods for it? I'm also considering throwing a VTEC head on it while I'm building it.

mastarolla
07-06-2003, 04:28 PM
A B20 block is pretty much a stroked version of the B18. I think its just a larger bore or something like that which nets the extra .2 liter.

If you want a quick motor...build a turbo B20 with like a b16 or GSR head. Just dont rev it too high.

dtmamg
07-06-2003, 04:39 PM
Stroking a motor involves using a shorter rod length and increasing the length of the crankshaft throws so that the piston travels farther, increasing the displacement. I realize that to have a larger displacement on a B-series (2.0 vs. 1.8), the cylinder bore would have to be larger, but I'm looking to see if anyone has stroked a B20. I was thinking about going with a turbocharged setup for a while, but I've decided to stay naturally aspirated for now for simplicity.

mastarolla
07-06-2003, 04:46 PM
ive never heard of anyone stroking a 2.0 and im not sure how the all motor b20 performs. Lots of torque...

dtmamg
07-06-2003, 04:54 PM
Yeah, basically what I'm looking to build is a B-series to drop in a Civic hatchback that'll put well over 200 ft-lbs to wheels throughout much of the powerband, naturally aspirated on 93 octane gas. It might take a lot more time and effort than going with a supercharger or a turbocharger, but thats not what I'm looking to do.

mastarolla
07-06-2003, 05:21 PM
yea naturally aspirated is more challenging in my opinion than just bolting on a turbo and goin...i think its a lot more fun too.

dtmamg
07-06-2003, 09:53 PM
Yeah, I've seen some kits that have it end up with like a 2.2 liter displacement, which is pretty sick and most likely makes a lot of torque.

mellowboy
07-07-2003, 08:44 AM
Thats a good question actually. I dont know if they have kits for it but i think you can get 84.5 mm sleeves which makes it a 2.2.

disbboi
07-07-2003, 12:57 PM
crower makes 2.2 liter stroker kit. the last time i checked i think its a little over $2000. i've seen stroked b16 to 1.8 liter and it ran great, but i don't know about a 2.2 liter tho.

whtteg
07-07-2003, 04:28 PM
The stroker kit for the b18b1 will work in the b20,all you need is larger pistons b/c the bore in the b20 is bigger than the b18b1. The two motors are the same, the b20 is a b18b1 with a bigger bore. The two motors use the same crank and rods.

dtmamg
07-07-2003, 08:17 PM
Thanks for the info. You don't happen to know what results people have seen from the Crower B18 stroker kit? Just looking for a general idea of how much power it'd be making.

mastarolla
07-07-2003, 10:07 PM
A B20 Vtec build is known for the torque you get...id almost be scared to see what a turbo b20 stroked would do.

Is it the torque youre after because it would probably be cheaper going the H22 route

whtteg
07-07-2003, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by dtmamg
Thanks for the info. You don't happen to know what results people have seen from the Crower B18 stroker kit? Just looking for a general idea of how much power it'd be making.

Sorry I have seen no info on results and I don't know of anybody who has it, I think it is b/c the r/s ratio will be even worse than the stock 1.54 , but i dunno. If you can get a hold of a b20 then sleeve it and boost around 20-25psi you would have a monster:eek:

disbboi
07-08-2003, 11:20 PM
sorry i dont know the results for a 2.2 stroker, but i saw a 2 liter gsr that make 240hp and 173tq at the wheels naturally aspirated, but it was fully built. so imma guessing you should make more for a 2.2 liter. like mastarolla said it would probably be cheaper if you got a h22.

dtmamg
07-09-2003, 12:39 AM
Yeah, the main reason I wasn't looking to put a H22 in was because of the increased weight. I wanted to have a car that would still be decent through the turns. Kind of an all-around autocross/drag-strip car.

whtteg
07-09-2003, 07:05 AM
Originally posted by dtmamg
Yeah, the main reason I wasn't looking to put a H22 in was because of the increased weight. I wanted to have a car that would still be decent through the turns. Kind of an all-around autocross/drag-strip car.
Turbo b16 is your answer :bigthumb:

disbboi
07-09-2003, 05:35 PM
yea the b16 turbo is good balance, but i think he wants something with some torque.

YOUNGSTER
07-09-2003, 09:37 PM
go h22a and theres a stroker that gets it 2.6 i saw in a magazine it put down like 240 to the wheels and 189 lbs trq.

whtteg
07-10-2003, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by disbboi
yea the b16 turbo is good balance, but i think he wants something with some torque.

A turbo motor will produce all the torque he will need or want :bigthumb:

mellowboy
07-10-2003, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by disbboi
yea the b16 turbo is good balance, but i think he wants something with some torque.

You'll get alot of torque from a turbo set up. No worries there...

dtmamg
07-11-2003, 12:01 AM
Crower makes a 2.26 Liter kit for the B18/B20, so I'm thinking of going with that, maybe 8.5:1 compression pistons, VTEC head, and a turbo. It'll be a lot of money/time but it should work out well in the end.

whtteg
07-11-2003, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by dtmamg
Crower makes a 2.26 Liter kit for the B18/B20, so I'm thinking of going with that, maybe 8.5:1 compression pistons, VTEC head, and a turbo. It'll be a lot of money/time but it should work out well in the end.
Let us know how it turns out:bigthumb:

GWInquisitor14
01-21-2004, 01:54 PM
If you go w/ the H22 and upgrade the suspension u wont have trouble taking the turns at all. You get more bang for your buck if u go w/ the H22. Plus w/ a H22 you will have a lil bit more torque, especially if u stroke it. I haven't seen any kits for the H22 though, but check this out
http://www.crower.com/cat/import/honda/stroker.shtml
its a crower stroker kit for the B20. I would really make sure to get that vtec head on there, it will give u more HP than the stroker kit cuz the B20 isn't a vtec. The H22 is gonna be a lot cheaper though if u have a budget and u will get the vtec head and teh good tourque

whtteg
01-22-2004, 04:08 PM
If you go w/ the H22 and upgrade the suspension u wont have trouble taking the turns at all. You get more bang for your buck if u go w/ the H22. Plus w/ a H22 you will have a lil bit more torque, especially if u stroke it. I haven't seen any kits for the H22 though, but check this out
http://www.crower.com/cat/import/honda/stroker.shtml
its a crower stroker kit for the B20. I would really make sure to get that vtec head on there, it will give u more HP than the stroker kit cuz the B20 isn't a vtec. The H22 is gonna be a lot cheaper though if u have a budget and u will get the vtec head and teh good tourque

Ok you are new here so i will be easy on you this time :icon16:
Please do not bring up old dead posts!!! 6 months old is considered dead!
If you have any more questions about this than feel free to PM a mod they will explain it all to you.

GWInquisitor14
01-23-2004, 01:18 PM
Alright dude, sorry...i didn't think it was that big of a deal. Maybe someone else would wanna read it, who knows. so what if i waste my time replying to something old. it shouldn't matter to you

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