roadgoing historic orange gtr's

It's very clear now i'm working on a reindex of all my pictures. just as anyone else on this forum, the pictures taken at the factory in woking are on my harddisc. They also are on the internet, follow this link: http://tvrfreak.com/Albums/Trips/2002%2006%2007%20London/05%20McLaren/page_01.htm
Now some time ago, i was counting the number of cars there, and at first (how stupid) i thought there was only one historic orange(ho) gtr there. At the time, i didn't have the knowledge i have now.

Yesterday I checked again. and i'm 100% sure that there are three different ho gtr's there. One is #11R, one is #07R, and there's another car. The car i'm talking about is the car that is being serviced, the rear-end is of, and the car is lifted in the air, so you can see the underside.

Right, i will prove myself right with pictures, but since i can't post more pictures in one post, i will give url's everytime. forgive me for that.
I will first show the car i'm talking about.
http://tvrfreak.com/Albums/Trips/2002%2006%2007%20London/05%20McLaren/DSC02877.JPG
http://tvrfreak.com/Albums/Trips/2002%2006%2007%20London/05%20McLaren/DSC02878.JPG
http://tvrfreak.com/Albums/Trips/2002%2006%2007%20London/05%20McLaren/DSC02879.JPG
http://tvrfreak.com/Albums/Trips/2002%2006%2007%20London/05%20McLaren/DSC02880.JPG
I know the person who took the pics (most of us do) i know he was there for only one day. I can if you want me to show more proof that there really are 3 GTR's there, but i won't right now.

There are a couple of differences with show the car's a 95 spec gtr or a 96 spec gtr. One of those are the side skirts. skirts the are continued under the door, and don't stop halfway between the wheels, point out the car is a 95 GTR. Now look at this pic of the underside of the car.
http://tvrfreak.com/Albums/Trips/2002%2006%2007%20London/05%20McLaren/DSC02880.JPG
you can clearly see the skirts going from wheel to wheel. so this car is 95 spec gtr, and i suspect it has been given the lm treatment. so there are 3 historic orange gtrs around. 2 95 spec cars and as 96 spec car.
the chassis # of the car i'm dealing with is unknown to me, if anyone could help me out, i'd really appreciate it.

Now lately there were two cars spotted in front of the monte carlo casino in monaco. one was a silver roadcar with the high downforce kit wearing the license plate"R66 MCL" (english plate) and another was a ho gtr with the license plate "M66 MCL" (this was an english plate as well).
This is a pic of the ho gtr.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=109674&highlight=M66+MCL+monaco+gtr
Now it's obvious that the skirts on this car cover just about 2/3 of the underside of the car. there are some other things as well, this car is a proper 96 spec GTR. Peleton25 already confirmed this car is not #11R, so this would be "ho gtr lm treatment" nr4.

to conclude my long post. i think there are 4 GTR's that have been given the LM treatment. of two of them we know the chassis nr, on two we don't, so that's something to find out. this also means that with #16R and #10R, there are 6 roadgoing mac's and not 4 as is stated in the #16R advert on qv500.com.

i think this needs some investigation.


rgrds

maarten

i'll look into it. btw: u know you can post pics with the IMG tag...

looking through my binder i realized it could be any of the following (all gtr's) 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 08, 09, 12, 13, 14, 15, 18...


but i decided to narrow it down to cars we knew about and i concluded that it is LIKELY to be 006R or 012R. we know that 012R was street legal, but i'm not sure wehn faisal took these pics, if it was after 2002 (when this car was sold) it is likely it is this car because it was sold in early 2002 and it could be in its "street legal makeover" or it could be 06R which all we know about is that it is in private hands....

ok, i'm getting there, the car here: http://tvrfreak.com/Albums/Trips/2002%2006%2007%20London/05%20McLaren/DSC02838.JPG and here: http://tvrfreak.com/Albums/Trips/2002%2006%2007%20London/05%20McLaren/DSC02870.JPG is the oakfields gtr, because the oakfields gtr has a red towing thing at the back and has the windscreen decal.

booyah! ok, the car you are wondering about (with the back off and up in the air) is wierd because it has a twin foil wing, which i have never seen on a street legal gtr, also lookat the wheel nuts on either side of the rear wheels, different colors, which means its an LM, i think. i could be (and probbaly am) wrong tho.

The one thing you're forgetting, and the only reason I haven't made similar claims, is that any of these cars could have been refitted with those skirts by the factory. We might be looking at photos that show a before and after in the case of the factory photos -vs- that shot from Monaco.

Also, the third orange car pictured at the factory in Faisal's photos could be an actual F1 LM and not necessairily a converted GTR. Maybe he can confirm...?

>8^)
ER

i think the serviced car is not an LM, because i don't think LM's (roadgoing) needed to have that red link for towing it away. If you also take a closer look upon the monaco pics you will see that the link for towing the car away isn't red, and i don't think that gets replaced very often.
and i'm not even talking about the twin foil wing.
is there a pic on which you can see the exhaust system of a gtr and the exhaust system of the LM? they might differ

Well just to add to the theory that it could be an LM, XPLM has the red tow link and at least one of the customer LMs has it as well.

I agree that there is possibly a third F1 GTR that has been given the HO LM treatment, but I don't believe there are four. I think the third is the Monaco car, and I believe that I've only seen that one photo of that car and no others to this point. I have my LM and HO GTR photos well organized and that one is certainly a lame duck in my opinion...

>8^)
ER

Follow these links and you will find two pictures of an GTR LM-like Mclaren (and other cars as Dauer,...)

http://www.ssij.nu/Sportscarshow2.htm

http://www.ssij.nu/Sportscarshow.htm

(Maybe old pictures but I just found them)

Originally posted by jkbon
Follow these links and you will find two pictures of an GTR LM-like Mclaren (and other cars as Dauer,...)

http://www.ssij.nu/Sportscarshow2.htm

http://www.ssij.nu/Sportscarshow.htm

(Maybe old pictures but I just found them)


i belive that is owned by the guy who showed his cars at the recent stockholm auto show. i'm moving house so i've packed my binder so i don't know his name off hand, it is mentioned in another thread somewhere, i'll try to find it. he also owns chassis #73

ok, i just remembered, his name is Tom Bryant Meissner and that is chassis #11R