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How to install neon tubes under dash...


HookdUpTeg99
07-02-2003, 10:52 PM
I'm looking to install 2 10" neon tubes under the dash on the driver and passenger side of my car. I want to wire them to a switch on the dash so i can turn them on and off. Is there any place that tells how to install them, or is there anyone who can explain how, in good enough detail to get me thru the installation? Thanx.

crxlvr
07-06-2003, 08:37 PM
first get a three prong switch, it should have power, ground and accessory.

take the ground wires from your neons and ground them to a body point of metal. take the neons power wire and connect to the ACC prong.

take another ground wire from the ground prong on the switch, and wire to a metal body point.

take a power wire from the 12v(power) prong of the switch to your battery. and your all done.

whiteracer
07-07-2003, 01:53 AM
one comment, one question...

I don't think wiring it to the battery terminal is that easy. I mean, the cord is only so long. How would you even do that? Just wrap the copper wire around one of the battery terminals?
Assuming i can't reach the battery, or wiring it to the battery itself would just not be practical, what power supply is it possible to tap into? headlight? cigarette adapter? stereo?

I'm thinking the same question and i really want to know how to do this as well. Simple instructions, but still i think he's looking for something more specific.

HookdUpTeg99
07-07-2003, 08:37 AM
Thanks for the installation instructions. Much appreciated....but of course, specifics are always very welcome :cool:

Ricochet
07-07-2003, 10:22 AM
Don't wire it into the battery terminal, it looks tacky. Solder one wire (I don't believe neons have a certain polarity, no positive or negative to make them run properly) into a 12V source which operates only when you want the neons to turn on, like parking lights, or cig lighter. The lighter is on when your car is running, so the neons will be on all the time. Personally I would do them with parking lights as switches look tacky also.

Here's a crappy diagram on how to wire them together (I'm not sure whether they came with a fuse or not):

(+)--[fuse?]--[neon]------------------[neon]----(-)

The positive is a wire connecting to a 12V source. If you don't care too much and wanna go ghetto, wrap that wire around your parking lights fuse prong (either one on the fuse) under the dash. Connect the two neons together by soldering the wire or via a crimp connector. You can wrap the negative wire around any bolt screwed into the chassis, or metal part somewhere connected to the frame of the car.

crxlvr
07-07-2003, 06:16 PM
well you can do it like that also.

but me personally would crimp another wire to the neons wire and run to a battery termianl connector(those big round O's with the wire lead on em) and put an inline fuse on it for safety, but you can wire it upto your parking lights or headlights, just makes sure the neons wont draw too much power, or they will be blowing the fuse constantly.

whiteracer
07-07-2003, 06:55 PM
Being in his position once (sort of still), i think he wants specifics. The terms "tap into" and "inline fuse" aren't exactly known by everyone.

crxlvr
07-08-2003, 02:30 PM
if you cant figure out what an inline fuse or what tap into this means, you shouldnt be attempting to install them yourself.

Ricochet
07-08-2003, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by crxlvr
if you cant figure out what an inline fuse or what tap into this means, you shouldnt be attempting to install them yourself.
amen brother

whiteracer
07-08-2003, 06:36 PM
ok, i'm not totally taking his side, but how did you learn about inline fuses? Someone probably taught you. Even if that someone was yourself. That's what he's trying to do. I think he might be looking for a website with illustrated pictures. Some people are more visual learners. Now i know what you're talking about, so do other people, but what about people not knowing as much as yourself in a field like electronics?

There's different ways of doing certain aspects of this. Yeah you could just dirrectly wire it onto the battery terminal. Or you could "tap into" a hot wire. You could have a switch. Then again, you don't have to have one. People start somewhere. Going by his sig, he may know a lot about a transmission and engine, but how many people do you know that have an expertise in every field of automobiles? Not that many, but there are quite a few that know the basics of every aspect.

So i go back to the aforementioned sentence; Someone probably taught you sometime. Granted not everyone can come up with a website that can give step by step pictured instructions, but only one person needs to. Like he said, "specifics are always welcomed."

outlawtorn86
07-09-2003, 01:02 AM
by tapping into do u mean like attaching the bulb wire to the headlight somewhere in the connection? i think i know what ur talking about, but then again im no mechanic. do u mean like forking the wire, and having one go to the headlighs and one to bulbs?

whiteracer
07-09-2003, 01:59 AM
SEE WHAT I MEAN?!

Ricochet
07-09-2003, 07:43 AM
"Tap into" means to connect the neon wire to another wire in which current is flowing, called a "hot wire." Your best bet would be to wrap one wire around a fuse under the dash because small neons don't eat up too much power at all. I've had neons under my dash before and my kit came with an inline fuse, and it was only a 1A fuse (very, very tiny wire inside of it, about the size of a hair).

whiteracer
07-09-2003, 09:11 AM
a couple questions with that. one, doesn't the other wire need to be grounded? and two, did you wire a toggle switch into it or did it just come on whenever the fuse was engaged?

Ricochet
07-09-2003, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by whiteracer
did you wire a toggle switch into it or did it just come on whenever the fuse was engaged?
I wired mine to the battery and had a toggle switch near the ebrake. If you wire it in with a taillights, headlights, or dash lights fuse the neons will turn on when you turn on the lights. If you wire it through the cig lighter, they will be on as long as the car is turned to ACC or running, lights on or off. Come to think of it, this guy could connect the neon wires to a cig lighter plug ($4 at walmart or something) and just plug it in to turn them on. That's pretty ghetto in my opinion, but it will work too.

whiteracer
07-09-2003, 11:47 AM
streetglow makes this 4-in-1 adapter type thing, plug in 4 adapters to this thing, and then plug the 1 into the cigarrete adapter in your car. Presto, you have 4 things running out of one whole. And the plugs all have fuses in them, so does that mean if you had 2 4-in-1's that you could run 7 sets of neons through the cigarrete hole in your car? If hidden, it might look ok, but safe? hmm...now i agree, a couple sets are fine for the cigarette adapter, but it would just be safer to wire them into his car. If you wire a couple sets into the cigarette adapter in the back, could you still run something like a phone charger, power adapter, or another set of neons through the plug? Safety is an issue here.

outlawtorn86
07-09-2003, 12:50 PM
so i kinda understand what u guys are talking about... its like forking (what i call tapping into) the wire where a current is running. wow man... how long do u have to work around cars to know how to do this stuff... lol

Ricochet
07-09-2003, 12:52 PM
Piling a bunch of adapters into a cig lighter doesn't sound very safe to me, but yes if you did do that you could have the neons and phone chargers etc plugged in next to it. For non-electrical gurus, voltage is constant in parallel circuits, so 12V would be available in each plug even if you had 7 of them or whatever.

forking
there ya go :smile:
how long do u have to work around cars to know how to do this stuff
I'm 24 and I've been under the hoods of Civics since I got my '89 when I was 17. An electrical engineering degree (in progress) helps a little too.

whiteracer
07-09-2003, 01:22 PM
so i shall go back to my previous statement and quesiton, do you or anyone have a website that gives specifics on how to do this?

Ricochet
07-09-2003, 01:28 PM
www.google.com

find it yourself

whiteracer
07-09-2003, 01:56 PM
:nono:

Oh thanks man! Google! I'd never thought of that! aw man you're the best. Yes, you're swell. :thefinger j/k

Ricochet
07-09-2003, 02:00 PM
Dude we've told you everything you need to know besides flying out and doing this dumb shit for you. I'm done trying to help.

BullShifter
07-10-2003, 01:55 AM
:iceslolan

i thought the 1st instructions given were clear . . . .

whiteracer
07-10-2003, 10:25 AM
you're right, the first instructions were very clear. Clear enough for myself to go out and get it done. But then again, i wasn't the original starter of this thread. HookdUpTeg99, was it clear enough for you to get it done?

Modus Operandi
07-11-2003, 05:13 PM
I feel like this is a stupid question but "Wheres the Acc Prong?"

BullShifter
07-11-2003, 07:16 PM
next to the muffler bearings

whiteracer
07-11-2003, 10:26 PM
:confused: :bloated: :eek7:

Its one of the three spots you have to connect a wire to on a three pronged switch. 1 power 2 ground 3 Acc prong. Acc = accessory i.e. neon wire

muffler bearing?....

Ricochet
07-11-2003, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by jackasssi
next to the muffler bearings
But before the left turn signal fluid tank.

el_loco_civic
07-14-2003, 10:24 PM
i think i have the answers to yer probz.. i got this long time ago. . from someone in the 4g'z...

HookdUpTeg99
07-15-2003, 10:04 AM
Hey, thanks a lot guys. All of you have been a lot of help. I plan to buy/install it all this weekend. Hopefully all goes well :icon16:

1gspot
08-16-2003, 09:26 PM
personaly I wouldnt tap into the cig lighter power, just because i have heard that the amount of power going to it is very small and therefore with anymore than 3 neons would probably dim the lights or have one not function at all. Also you said earlier to wire the neons in a series, aka tie the neg of one into the pos of the other. This is also a bad idea because if u know a lot about electricity the voltage will drop as the distance that it has to flow is increased. Also running one light after the other could make the second light dimmer then the first which would look really bad. What i would and am planning on doing is to tap into the power wire going to the radio head unit. Maybe going into the cig lighter would work for your two neons however i plan on having two on each side( one red, one blue, blue for cruising and also for when the n2o is armed. then red for when the n2o is firing).

Summary: Dont use cig lighter power, and dont run neons in a series.

-david

rshah188
05-22-2005, 09:39 PM
someone earlier said that you can wire the neons by wrapping the positive wire around a fuse and then negitive side around something metal. is that really a safe method of doing it?

BullShifter
05-23-2005, 01:13 AM
This post is like 2yrs old . . . . No, pushing a wire in with a fuse is bad. When you do that the prongs widen, therefore when you take that wire out to do it right, you may have a loose fuse. Parts stores sell a special connector for ghetto rigging.

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