1997 sentra no start spark plug tubes full of oil
krackerjack9
02-14-2017, 02:33 PM
Ok drove my car home parked it for about a week, came back to start it nothing, it turns over, I can hear the fuel pump. Now about 2yrs ago I was coming to a stop sign and the car stalled out, cranked it over and it started but a little rough, Got home and figured had to be ignition related, so started checking wires to see if one had came loose ect. Well I started pulling them out and one wire came out all wet with oil hmm turns out the gasket on top some sort of seal had failed and oil was filling up the tube till I guess it shorted the plug out. So new plug and wireset and thought I did a good job of putting new seals in to keep out. NOT
So this time I pull out spark plug wires and one is full about 1/2 way up one is barely wet the other 2 are about a inch up the wire plug. Ok been here and don't that so new wire set and new plugs, crank and nothing, double checked my plug wire firing order its all good, dist cap is good no cracks, even pulled that other 2 screws to check that wheel on Dist for oil another website mentioned it but it was bone dry and the square holes looked fine. Checked all fuses all good. Not sure what else to check I don't think I'm getting spark but I havnt checked it. but if I'm not getting spark where else in the chain due I look. Car has about 322,000 on it and still getting 36mpg its a manuel
So this time I pull out spark plug wires and one is full about 1/2 way up one is barely wet the other 2 are about a inch up the wire plug. Ok been here and don't that so new wire set and new plugs, crank and nothing, double checked my plug wire firing order its all good, dist cap is good no cracks, even pulled that other 2 screws to check that wheel on Dist for oil another website mentioned it but it was bone dry and the square holes looked fine. Checked all fuses all good. Not sure what else to check I don't think I'm getting spark but I havnt checked it. but if I'm not getting spark where else in the chain due I look. Car has about 322,000 on it and still getting 36mpg its a manuel
Crvett69
02-16-2017, 01:49 AM
crank engine over and make sure the rotor on distributor is turning. have seen a few of the high mileage sentra have a timing chain failure. hopefully its not that but easy enough to check
krackerjack9
02-16-2017, 05:32 PM
distributor is turn, I have spark, now I might have got firing order mixed up and I cant find and clear shot on the wire order from the distributor
If I'm standing on the driver side looking at distributor at 2 oclock is number 1 which is closest to the distributor, the at 5 oclock is number 2 with is 2nd closest to distrib, at 11 oclock is number 3 and number 4 is 7 oclock
is this right??
If I'm standing on the driver side looking at distributor at 2 oclock is number 1 which is closest to the distributor, the at 5 oclock is number 2 with is 2nd closest to distrib, at 11 oclock is number 3 and number 4 is 7 oclock
is this right??
Crvett69
02-16-2017, 05:37 PM
this should be your firing order if you have the 1.6
http://www.fixya.com/uploads/images/coswthemost_2.gif
http://www.fixya.com/uploads/images/coswthemost_2.gif
krackerjack9
02-16-2017, 05:47 PM
ok I'm way off, not sure why I cant add photos here, I'm going to go try that thanks
Crvett69
02-16-2017, 05:50 PM
if that doesnt work you should have a mark or line on the dist cap that marks #1 plug wire position, you can then follow the 1-3-4-2 clockwise rotation firing order to install the wires
krackerjack9
02-16-2017, 05:56 PM
tried that no go,, I guess I'm confused due to the dist is sideways and I'm trying to flip the diagram over and see if I'm getting them in the right order but I guess not
krackerjack9
02-16-2017, 06:02 PM
for some reason I cant attach files or photos I just don't know if I have it right and like to post a photo to make sure
krackerjack9
02-16-2017, 06:04 PM
when I find some photos of some 1997 engines the wiring dosnt look anything like the link you provided?
Crvett69
02-16-2017, 06:07 PM
is it a 1.6 or 2.0 engine?
Crvett69
02-16-2017, 06:09 PM
if it is 1.6 your cap should look like this and if you look closely you can see the plug wires numbers written on the cap. #1 plug is the one closest to the end of engine with the fan belts
http://df1swbs43sxt1.cloudfront.net/cache/image/data/1004017_05-500x500.JPG
http://df1swbs43sxt1.cloudfront.net/cache/image/data/1004017_05-500x500.JPG
krackerjack9
02-16-2017, 06:14 PM
1.6 ok going to give it another try, thanks for taking the time with me, I'm just frustrated so I'm taking a deep breath and go out and give it go
krackerjack9
02-16-2017, 06:27 PM
I put the plug wires right on the numbers their on the cap it sorted wanted to start but wouldn't, but its the closest its been,,, I can hear the fuel pump and its running for like 4 seconds maybe 5 seconds. Is it like the GM systems where it has to see a certain fuel pressure before it will let the injectors open?? I checked my spark I due have it thoughts??
Crvett69
02-16-2017, 06:31 PM
if the check engine light is on while it sort of starts it may have a code stored of what the ecu sees wrong with the engine otherwise you may have to check the systems one at a time. you do have the large hose from air cleaner to intake still hooked up don't you, if the maf in the tube doesn't see air flow it wont run right
krackerjack9
02-16-2017, 06:39 PM
once I crank it the engine light goes out oilpressure ight goes out, I guess its possible I got it flooded so give it break for now, I did check all my plugs for cracks last time I had one that was cracked so I checked them all, I due have a innova 3160d scanner and it shows no stored codes so, I'm stumped and tired. the car was running when I parked it I had to go to a funeral and it sat for oh about 8 days ,, so it has to be something simple that I'm not seeing, most of the time it is right.
Crvett69
02-16-2017, 06:41 PM
not something simple like out of gas is it?
krackerjack9
02-16-2017, 06:43 PM
no its full of fuel,
krackerjack9
02-23-2017, 04:43 PM
ok going to give it a go again, brand new spark plugs and wires, but got 3 different answers on firing order, I'm going to try the one on the dist cap first then try the others, I due have spark and fuel,, only got about 2hrs before it gets dark
Crvett69
02-23-2017, 04:52 PM
you can spin the engine to tdc by the mark on the engine damper and see where distributor rotor is pointing. that will either be #1 or 180 degrees out, can use that as #1 and crank engine to see what direction rotor turns then set the wires up 1-3-4-2 in direction rotor turns. if that fixes it great, if it backfires or wont start can start #1 directly opposite one you used before and change other wires accordingly
krackerjack9
02-23-2017, 05:08 PM
still nothing, I know I have spark, so where due you check for fuel pressure??
krackerjack9
02-23-2017, 05:18 PM
thought there be a tap but looks like I got to splice a hose...
Crvett69
02-23-2017, 05:41 PM
you can also take the fuel line off the throttle body or injectors and stick it in a gas safe container and make sure it has a good flow when you turn key on. it will only pump for about 2 seconds so might need a helper
krackerjack9
02-23-2017, 06:29 PM
so far nothing, cant get my fuel pressure guage on fuel filter I got hose to small or hose to big,, I am about 90% sure I got the spark plug wires in the correct positions, found a photo on Nissan forums and its the 3 rd different one I have seen, the spark plug wires are different postions than what the distributor says, so I guess I'm going to roll the dice and get a fuel pump and see if that's it, its 48 miles one way to a store so might as well buy one
krackerjack9
02-23-2017, 06:31 PM
yeah fuel came out when I turned the key on for about 2 or 3 seconds then it shut off.
krackerjack9
02-23-2017, 06:59 PM
http://i30.tinypic.com/29db5gh.jpg
this is the one the did the trick,, hope that comes out. But the real thing that did the trick is I pulled the fuse to the fuel pump cranked it for a bit and then put it back in as soon as I turned the key it fired right up.. now to read up on sealing up those spark plug tubes so oil one get in there
Thanks
this is the one the did the trick,, hope that comes out. But the real thing that did the trick is I pulled the fuse to the fuel pump cranked it for a bit and then put it back in as soon as I turned the key it fired right up.. now to read up on sealing up those spark plug tubes so oil one get in there
Thanks
krackerjack9
02-23-2017, 07:00 PM
Crvett69
02-23-2017, 07:16 PM
glad you got it going
krackerjack9
02-23-2017, 08:12 PM
Crvett69 Thanks for taking the time to respond so some of my request. I still cant believe by just pulling the fuel pump fuse did the trick. Now the seal on spark plug tubes and crank seal and I'm good for another 100k
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