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higher psi=faster?


r33gts25t
11-15-2001, 02:43 AM
If you are getting higher psi does that mean your have more power as in faster? and wat exactly does the factory boost controller DO?
does it limit my psi ? if so, if I do mods on my car will it limit the max psi? Im a begginer at this so plz bare with me .. :)

thx all

mincemeat
11-15-2001, 04:00 AM
Higher PSI generally means more air into the engine. If the appropriate increase of fuel is injected into your cylinders, then the engine is producing more power.

As pressure increases, however, the air gets hotter and less dense.

Boost controllers control operation of the wastegate - a valve, when opened, bypasses exhaust gas flow around the turbo, thus preventing the turbo from generating more boost.

Most modifications only create potential for more power. The only real way to make more power IMO is a tuned ECU...

TINDUCK RACING
11-15-2001, 06:45 PM
Quote:Most modifications only create potential for more power.

Mincemeat: your premises are all true, but your conclusions are a little wobbly dude.....

....Try this: A piston draws in a measured amount of fuel and air, compresses it, and ignites it.....the resulting explosion causes a downward force on the piston crown,translating through the connecting rod into a rotational force on the crankshaft.....this rotational force has many little tasks to do.....it has to pull another piston down, drawing in more air and fuel....it has to push another piston up, compressing gases to a fraction of their original size.....it has to push yet another piston up, expelling the waste gases through a long restrictive pipe......it has to turn pumps that push oil and water around the engine, drive an alternator to power the electrical system, turn pulleys that run the power steering pump and airconditioning pump......
.........any remaining force is further reduced by transmission losses.....turning cogs, heating diff oil,warming tyres......until finally the last bit of power actually pushes the overweight chunk of steel down the road............see what I mean?
.....anything that you can do to make the motor breathe in or out more easily will have a beneficial effect on power.......less effort sucking in and blowing out means more effort at the wheels.......just try disconnecting your alternator and aircon the next time you do the 1/4 mile, and you'll see what I mean....

....sorry to ramble on dudes, but it's a valid point....you don't need to touch the ECU to see (and feel) real power gains....

Take care,

Jon.;)

Slip
11-16-2001, 12:31 AM
Holy shit mincemeat, and all this time people have been imagining the hp gains from exhausts, intakes, more psi, more fuel, higher compression, aftermarket cams, head work, and bigger intercoolers!!!!!!
Ah cos they only create POTENTIAL for more power, silly me.

Wow, Ill just go put a Haltech in my car because thats the "only real way to make more power"

:rolleyes:

Dude, youre a classic.

flupstar
11-16-2001, 12:54 AM
If I interperet your question correctly... I am thinking that you are asking if higher boost (psi) not only creates more power, but brings the power on at a faster rate?

If so, the answer is... maybe.
If you are toying with a bleed valve type solution then you'll find that the more you increase boost pressure... the later the wastegate will begin to creep open... therefore bringing the boost on slightly faster.

If its a decent electronic system then as far as I am aware, it holds the wastegate closed until the very last moment anyway.. regardless of boost pressure.

Or maybe Im babbling bullshit about nothing.. its hard to understand what exactly you were asking :)

GTS-4 Ben
11-16-2001, 06:44 AM
Sounds good. Bleeding or bending your actuator will work in small amounts, I am bleeding 14psi and it helps and certainly makes me alot faster!

but you can add more boost, but as soon as it pings.. you will be loosing power..

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