Normal lancer has MIVEC?

Finally, I got my first car and it is a Lancer. My first target was actually to get a Civic. I had a ride with my friend in his '94 accord and it was great. I could feel the power coming up as the engine was revs to 6k rpm.. WOA....!!!!... awesome. He said it's all because of the VTEC. hmmm... VTEC. So since then I thought of getting Civic with VTEC coz accord was way out of my budget.

For the last couple of months I've been haunting Civic 98+. But then I bumped into Mitsu dealer and they had special promotion. With a budget of second hand Civic, I could get a brand new lancer (old model though). So I opted for the new Lancer. Bye..bye .. VTEC:frown:

Then I found out that Mitsu has their own 'VTEC' which is called 'MIVEC'.

Could anyone tell me more about this technology? Does it come with all Lancer? If it doesn't, how to add a MIVEC to my Lancer?

Thanks All,

MIVEC = VTEC

mitsu bought the technology off honda

u can find MIVEC in FTOs which is specifically the GPX model

Vtec technology only kicks in AFTER 5000rpm

im guesing u can get the mivec from the FTO GPX and import the engine into a lancer

MIVEC, VTEC, VVTI, all of those are the same form my research. Altho when those things start to kick in, it sounds pretty nice.

Try this for some info about Mitsubishi engines generally;

Engine Technology (http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.jp/docs6/history/html/gdi.htm)

Thanks for the article about engine. I found this line "Lancer, Mirage (Colt) and FTO models marketed in Japan are equipped with the MIVEC engine.". So it's only Jap Lancer has MIVEC... :frown: Too bad, are any of MIVEC engines available in Aus? Don't want to rip off some FTO engine though.

Have a read on this:
http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_307/article.html

Beside mitsu tech, they also put in Honda, Nissan, Toyota, etc.

Mitsubishi Innovative Valve timing and lift Electronic Control (Mivec)

heard that they do not produce much torque, regardless of 170bhp on the mivecs

let me know how you go and if you need advice to increase POWER...hehehe
good luck dude

ham_ster
"Hope, is a dangerous thing" - the shawshank redemption

VTEC has been used on cars for over 13 years, and on motor bikes for nearly 20 years.
After that amount of time if you consider yourself any kind of car nut then you should actualy know something about it.

Read this if you don't: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t77265.html


The idea behind it is as old as the cam shaft, but Honda was first to build an engine that could handle a very wide power band, and an ECU that could run it. Nissan, Mitsubishi, BMW, Ferrari, Porsche and Toyota have all developed similar system.
But VTEC is a Honda term, and refers only to Honda's version of a valve system that allows variable lift, duration and timing, called Variable Timeing and Electronic Control, refering to the cams variable profile, and the ECU's ablity to manage it.




MIVEC is a similar system, but like Toyotas VVTi-L its not as well developed as VTEC, and does not provide the same long seemless powerband and easy to use engine.

Mitsubisihi have used it in a 1600cc 4cyl engine in a Cyborg version of the Mirage in Japan, and in a 2.0l V6 that was fitted to the Gallant, Lancer and FTO in Japan, and the FTO in the UK, and some Asia Pasfic countries.

I had a Mirage Cyborg 1.6L before the Rota. It was OK for what it was, was around the same speed as a new shape CRX, so not that fast.

Originally posted by phatdex
so not that fast.


Yeah, thier quick, but when compared with a GTi Pulsar, or GTX Familia, or the old SiR Civic they become very pedestrian.
The V6 Lancer is the same, its a very smooth engine, but the car is build more as a small comfteble cruising car, and dosnt have the accleration or hard edge handling of proper sports car.

SiR civic, my friend had one, they were basically the same as that too. But compared to any turbo car, they are crap.

No matter how crap it is, it won't be crapper than standard 1.8 lancer engine :tongue:

true that

Lancers's are nice, i wouldnt buy one, but i would take one if some one gave it to me.

JDM Lancer comes with two types of MIVEC engines
Lancer MR 160 bhp sth similar to civic SiR
and LANCER (MR-Something) which has a system to reduce fuel consumption when not put pressure on engine (again 160bhp) there is a system that only two pistons work or sth like that
There is also JDM COLT with same engines
FTO GPX is V6 MIVEC 200bhp

All mitsus LANCERs and COLTs though are a bit slower compared with CIVIC SIR
FTO GPX V6 MIVEC 200bhp is again a bit slower than Integra TYPE-R

and believe me i saw a lot of racing with all those models modified or not

In my country we import a lot of JDM cars and i saw all models


JDM stands for Japanese Domestic Market

Ermmm, JDM = Japan Domestic Model

Sorry to correct dude

:naughty:

ham_ster

Hello there. I am a newbie in this forum but it dosen't mean I am a newbie in Mitsubishi. I am not an expert but I know something that I want to share with you guys here.

The MIVEC MD will switch to 2 cylinder operation when the ECU detects that this engine is constantly at a speed in the high speed like in the motor way.

Those JDM MIVEC that you get in a consumable market has a limitation or being locked by Mistsubishi. The power quoted at 175 bhp in their specification is the engine power. At here, there's a lot of MIVEC lover has transplanted it and went to a dyno. Surprisingly none of a stock MIVEC could reach more than 140bhp. Compare to B16a, on wheel dyno is at 150 ~ 155bhp.

A proper tune 4G93 (1.8 DOHC Mitsubishi) can smoke a 4G93 (MIVEC) easily. On wheel dyno a 4G93 almost equal power to a MIVEC.

In general speaking a stock MIVEC is not a powerful engine.

Hello it's me again. :grinyes:

Now I would share with you guys how can a MIVEC performs in Japan.

In Japan, Mitsubishi has a touring cup just for MIVEC cars.

I do not know much yet what they had done to the engine but the specs. is awesome.

Each touring car can pump up to 300bhp. It still in NA, without a turbo charge. As I have mentioned before, Mitsubishi had sealed the power of the MIVEC. The touring car engine being strengthen by using a special Mitsubishi performance parts that we are not be able to get in the market.

A Toyota VVT only can pumped up to 260bhp by TRD.

A Mugen B16b with 1.8 stroker kit only pump up close to 250bhp but on wheel this car can get a figure over 230bhp. Running in high octane fuel.

Hello there, it's me again. Now I want to share with you guys how can a MIVEC can performs in a street racing. :evillol: :naughty:

Our here in our country, a lot of trial and error had done into MIVEC. Mechanics trying to figure it out how a MIVEC can run faster than a VVT and a VTEC.

Here it goes, a MIVEC turbo. Yeap, it's a different category of modification. Turbo vs NA. Well, if there isn't any Mitsubishi special performance parts, then have to DIY it by own. In market, a performance parts for MIVEC is extremly less. I only know JUN made high cams for 4G92. No other else.

Firstly a turbo charge a MIVEC with it's on original block is not advisable. Due to the heat generate fast in the 4G92, the first came to problem was the crank and conrod bearing. The most common weakness for Mitsubishi cars. The bearings.
Many mechanics has failed in this modification. Only a few are success due to running in low boast. But what for running at low boast and still run slower than a VTEC.

Second trial, replacing an original 4G92 block to 4G93T. Anyone not sure what is 4G93T can refer to the previous post to autospeed site.

Replacing this 4G93T will gain a 200cc and a stronger block due to originally a 4G93T is a turbo charge engine. Bigger cc from the injector. Of course the bearings need to replace to a better reliable grades.
With a turbo replacement from it's stock to an EVO3, the power curve on dyno can reach 320bhp. It's an unbelievable figure.
One of a car being reliable running on the road. With a gadget Apexi SAFC to fine tune it.

At last, what you all think of MIVEC? :loser:

The fuel saving one is the MIVEC MD.
You can also get 2.5L V6 mivecs which come in the Diamante, there is also a 3.5L in the Pajero Evo.
Might aslo be a 3L version but i'm only guessing on that.