Lancia 037 with a big difference Part 2

As some of you may know I was building a 1/10th Lancia 037 as no one was making a large scale rally car.
See.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=1063099

I was enjoying myself but my modelling time is limited.
So when MFH said they were bring out a 037 in 1/12th scale I had to get one.
I order a different version so at some point I could get back to mine.
Well it has come now.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/P9070528_zpswsrzemzi.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/P9070528_zpswsrzemzi.jpg.html)



http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/P9070529_zpstcjgzjby.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/P9070529_zpstcjgzjby.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/P9070531_zpsr9r0crff.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/P9070531_zpsr9r0crff.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/P9070532_zpsgwzpn4wf.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/P9070532_zpsgwzpn4wf.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/P9070533_zpsnlcfdxvh.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/P9070533_zpsnlcfdxvh.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/P9070534_zpsvsa77ukr.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/P9070534_zpsvsa77ukr.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/P9070535_zpsqoli1qje.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/P9070535_zpsqoli1qje.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/P9070536_zpsysnues3v.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/P9070536_zpsysnues3v.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/P9070537_zpsogfucvyi.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/P9070537_zpsogfucvyi.jpg.html)

Lot and lots of white metal parts, turned wheels.
Will be adding some extra details, keep watching.

Can't wait to see this. This is a very tempting kit

Ha, good luck. We'll see you in about a year... ;)

ianc

A year? three years to me and I would make a mess of it!

I so admire people who are willing to spend this amount and have the skills to pull it off.

Maybe one day I will get there.

thanks guys.
will start very soon.

Started on the front frame.
All going together ok.
Made sure everything was good before using glue.
Will take screws out later when fixed.
But have found out the shocks are about 2mm to short and dont like the springs.
Can work with them but want them to look right.
So will make up better shocks from these parts and some other bits.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/frame%202_zpsdaksbcr1.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/frame%202_zpsdaksbcr1.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/frame%201_zpsb8wy1s2i.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/frame%201_zpsb8wy1s2i.jpg.html)

Still working on the springs but also moved onto the steering.
This is wrong.
The 2 parts from the kit.
MFH had the top bar across the frame this is wrong in my eyes.
Also have photos to back this up.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/steering%202_zpscpu1ptmb.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/steering%202_zpscpu1ptmb.jpg.html)

How it should look.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/steering%201_zpspcopmipy.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/steering%201_zpspcopmipy.jpg.html)

Bit more work to do but should be something like this.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/steering%203_zpsfiqleol5.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/steering%203_zpsfiqleol5.jpg.html)

Bit more adjusting and and some nuts.

Nice to see someone else is building the kit. Me too and I'm at the same stage now. Good improvement on the steering bar. Where did you find the layout drawing reference? I can't find any of those drawing on the net.

Regards.

Nice to see someone else is building the kit. Me too and I'm at the same stage now. Good improvement on the steering bar. Where did you find the layout drawing reference? I can't find any of those drawing on the net.

Regards.

pm sent .

Seems there are a few of us with these and watching you trailblaze.

Not sure if you have seen this, unfortunately it is in Japanese, but has some very good photos for reference.

https://www.hlj.com/product/SAE62371/Aut

Seems there are a few of us with these and watching you trailblaze.

Not sure if you have seen this, unfortunately it is in Japanese, but has some very good photos for reference.

https://www.hlj.com/product/SAE62371/Aut

Thanks
I have many photos I have taken for when I was building the 1/10th scale model.
But always good to have as many as you can get.

Excellent work so far.:smokin:

I have this kit too, so this thread will prove essential for me.

Just got min too... Following with great interrest...

Beautiful-looking kit - even if there might be some details which need sorting out. Please don't forget the 1/10 version, though! Looking forward to seeing more progress (in either scale) - keep up the good work.

[QUOTE=puffyrs;7172313]Still working on the springs but also moved onto the steering.
This is wrong.
The 2 parts from the kit.
MFH had the top bar across the frame this is wrong in my eyes.



QUOTE]

The top bar is supposed to be a sort of strut brace with adjustable ends. You are right in saying it looks more like a steering stabilizer. Interesting.....just checked my reference book and the real part does not look like the kit part.

Never mind I just looked at the kit instructions...I see what they did, They put a steering stabilizer on the "frame because to lazy to make it where it's supposed to be. Good catch!

Remade the springs out of 1.5mm lighting cable.
Have now repainted the white.
They are now the right size.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/front%201_zps5yxcuvhb.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/front%201_zps5yxcuvhb.jpg.html)

painted the frame.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/front%202_zpswkpgwi4i.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/front%202_zpswkpgwi4i.jpg.html)

added pipes to brakes.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/front%203_zpsvbvrbwcq.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/front%203_zpsvbvrbwcq.jpg.html)

Now working on the Rad.
in the kit you only get the spring in the black circle.
so will have to make another spring and fixings like in the white circle.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/front%204_zpso8ntnltq.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/front%204_zpso8ntnltq.jpg.html)

Still working on the front.
You have to keep building and checking and taking apart again.
Not all parts fit.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/frame%203_zpsfconnb5o.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/frame%203_zpsfconnb5o.jpg.html)

Built the rad but you can see right through it so added some black plastic.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/rad%202_zpsi8idgws5.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/rad%202_zpsi8idgws5.jpg.html)

added fan, still to add wiring.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/fan%201_zps5wtqojfr.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/fan%201_zps5wtqojfr.jpg.html)

front end together still more parts to add.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/fan%202_zpswsupthbi.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/fan%202_zpswsupthbi.jpg.html).

you cannot just build these out of the box. you have to check and recheck all the time.

I'm Pretty sure in the instructions you are supposed to add a piece of stainless wire directly behind the strut assembly. I don't know why other than to set the correct ride height,or to keep suspension from settling over time. Maybe tha'ts why your springs appeared short. I will check that on mine this evening. I also drilled the hole in the lower a-arm pretty deep where the bottom of strut goes in.
Nice progress. I was gung ho for about two weeks and burned out by all the drilling. I keep it on the desk just to remind me that it needs to be worked on.

I'm Pretty sure in the instructions you are supposed to add a piece of stainless wire directly behind the strut assembly. I don't know why other than to set the correct ride height,or to keep suspension from settling over time. Maybe tha'ts why your springs appeared short. I will check that on mine this evening. I also drilled the hole in the lower a-arm pretty deep where the bottom of strut goes in.
Nice progress. I was gung ho for about two weeks and burned out by all the drilling. I keep it on the desk just to remind me that it needs to be worked on.

The wire is to stop the suspsion from bottoming out.
But in all my photos I have never found them on the front susp only the rear.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/037%20mine%20156_zpsyl5dxvug.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/037%20mine%20156_zpsyl5dxvug.jpg.html)

Yes I see them on the rear also...It was usually a cable of sorts to keep the suspension from over extending during jumps. On the kit however I think hiro put them in place to keep the weight of the kit from trying to bend over time....which doesn't really make sense, since it sits on stands when finished....weird. Did you ever think to make the steering pose able? I was gonna try that if wasn't gonna take all year to figure out.

I agree....Nothing so far fits like it's supposed to. Very aggravating.

Great job so far on this kit. The front end, fan and all look great.

Thanks guys.
Bit more to the front.
Some more wires to add then on to the inside.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/front%207_zpsgogtn3k6.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/front%207_zpsgogtn3k6.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/front%206_zpsbqokp2pv.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/front%206_zpsbqokp2pv.jpg.html)

slow going

Hi Martin

nice progress, doing the same kit, I am a bit further in process and since I was following your progress on that huge scratch build I assume you have a lot of references. One thing that is bothering me is location and look of ignition coil, because there isn't any in kit and on pictures I have you can't see the location of the coil. Do you have some picture or at least location, I assume it is on the left hand side wall close to volumex unit.
Thank you in advance and good luck with the kit.

Here is where I stand at the moment

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y27/sjelic/Mobile%20Uploads/image.jpeg

Nice work,Sjelic..
the coil was on the left side of the engine,in front of the Comprex compressor,fixed on the aluminium panel,where there were also the fuel pumps...
a hidden place...I know....

Martin,very detailed and convincing work! :thumbsup:

Hi Martin

nice progress, doing the same kit, I am a bit further in process and since I was following your progress on that huge scratch build I assume you have a lot of references. One thing that is bothering me is location and look of ignition coil, because there isn't any in kit and on pictures I have you can't see the location of the coil. Do you have some picture or at least location, I assume it is on the left hand side wall close to volumex unit.
Thank you in advance and good luck with the kit.

Here is where I stand at the moment

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y27/sjelic/Mobile%20Uploads/image.jpeg
hI
I'm sure I have some photos will add later on tonight.

Thanks

Hi
Yours is coming on well.
Please see photos, I hope they help.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/coils%201_zpsxpt3v5sf.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/coils%201_zpsxpt3v5sf.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/coil%202_zpsgzmehgd8.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/coil%202_zpsgzmehgd8.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/coil%204_zpsqcyedfhs.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/coil%204_zpsqcyedfhs.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/coil%203_zps6obyioke.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/coil%203_zps6obyioke.jpg.html)

Martin

Great! Just what I needed, I suspected that it is somewhere there and it is simple design, no problem to schratch build.
Thanks Martin

Nice work,Sjelic..
the coil was on the left side of the engine,in front of the Comprex compressor,fixed on the aluminium panel,where there were also the fuel pumps...
a hidden place...I know....

Martin,very detailed and convincing work! :thumbsup:

Grazie Alessandro, I will skip the pumps since air filter blocks that part anyhow but coil is a must.
Thank you guys, you helped me a lot, sorry Martin for jumping in thread

....in the last two photos of Martin,the coil is clearly visible....(with a lot of rust on it... ) :smooch:

I often saw the coil more hidden on the left panel,but it's not so important...And maybe the '83 spec had the coil in that position...

slow going but back on it.
Out of all the photos a have only one car was black inside, all the rest were silver.
So I went for silver.
Added a tube and spring to the the cable.
Only 1 photo at moment .
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/chassis_zpswgpfmx7t.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/chassis_zpswgpfmx7t.jpg.html)

You are doing a great job on this not-easy kit.
I personnally regret that the engineering of this model is not up to the price tag, to say the least :(

Still working on the inside.
The straps for the extinguisher are not that good , so made new ones from the metal on a floppy disc.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/exst%201_zpsjynnufjk.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/exst%201_zpsjynnufjk.jpg.html)

Then on to the seat and frames.
some small parts to paint so stuck them onto some masking tape.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/seat%201_zpsc3rmvlpw.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/seat%201_zpsc3rmvlpw.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/seat%202_zps0uujanfv.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/seat%202_zps0uujanfv.jpg.html)

seats painted
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/seat%203_zps5custohh.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/seat%203_zps5custohh.jpg.html)

seats are matt
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/seat%204%20_zps31vmw4lx.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/seat%204%20_zps31vmw4lx.jpg.html)

you do not get enough red ribbon for the seats belts, so have had to ordersome more. Also you do not get any measurements for the belts so that is a pain.

i must say that I should have make it silver inside...looking good, as for the seat belts, I had enough of ribbon, strange.
Looking forward to see next update.

Better hurry up, they have announced they are releasing a bunch more including Safari versions. I can feel my wallet screaming already. :uhoh:

Hello
Been working on dash.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/dash_zpsqgzsaylf.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/dash_zpsqgzsaylf.jpg.html)

Also started on engine. Added clips for HT leads and extra water pipes not in kit.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/engine_zpsek8lnpqx.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/engine_zpsek8lnpqx.jpg.html)

Been a bit slow but thought I would show photos of the Engine MFH 1/12th scale and my scratch built 1/10th scale.
MHF done with CAD mine done with eyes and my hands.
I don't think I did to bad.
They are 2 versions 1/10th is early and 1/12th late.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/engine%204_zpsdke6alkv.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/engine%204_zpsdke6alkv.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/engine%203_zpsaf5c9uw7.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/engine%203_zpsaf5c9uw7.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/puffyrs/engine%202_zpshy5jcqtm.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/puffyrs/media/engine%202_zpshy5jcqtm.jpg.html)

You've done it great! Your engine is more vivid than MFH's.

I keep looking at the dash and I can't help but wonder where you found those Giant Tamiya prop bottle.

Because there is no way this dash is in scale, is it?

Kidding aside, this is masterful model building. Inspiring and discouraging in equal mesures! :)