turbo timers illegal

I had called up Black Widow Sydney to re-hook my turbo timer as the previous owner discon after installin the alarm.

Black widow advised me that it is illegal to leave your cars unattended whilst running. So be careful of dodgy insurance companies if you have a turbo timer fitted. I had advised mine that I had one and it was not connected in case they try to use it as a loop hole.

Usually just try to leave it on for a minute which is still long.

ILLEGAL? WHAT A CROCK!

IF IT WAS SO ILLEGAL THEN WHY IS THERE SO MANY TURBO TIMERS AVAILABLE??

I don't think they would be ILLEGAL if anything it is just an OUT for the insurance companies.

Its not necessarily illegal to sell them. Its not illegal to sell a non-Austel-approved modem, its only illegal to connect it to the phone network. Its not illegal, I believe, to sell a radar detector, but it IS illegal to use it.

It only makes sense. How is the immobiliser supposed to work if you want to keep the engine running at the same time - one of them has to give. Why leave the engine running for some jumped up little turkey to simply jump in and drive off? What's it going to hurt you to sit in the car for a minute while the turbo cools off, or even slow down for that last km before you get to your destination?

Nothing illegal about turbo timers, nothing illegal about having one fitted to your car, but I'm fairly sure it is illegal to leave your car running & unattended.
Save a few $$$ & use the human turbo timer method, YOURSELF :ylsuper (these smilies rock!!!)

That makes sense, that you arent meant to leave your car unattended. So just be somewhere near your car while its on timer yeah?

Also, many turbo timers have security measures to keep people from driving off.

My immobiliser activates even when the timer is ticking down.. and still cant be turned off without the key.. and once the engine stops, it wont restart. so the immobiliser is just as effective as it always would have been. My alarm arms also, while the engine is running. And whats more, my blitz turbo timer kills the ignition if the car moves so much as a single inch.

insurance cant complain about that

The only potential negative with turbo timers (other than cost) is the very unlikely event of it malfuctioning & not shutting the engine down:(, especially if you've already walked away unware.

Admittedly, it's highly unlikely, but we are talking about electronics, & working in that field, I have to say, gadgets do some strange things sometimes :)

Originally posted by flupstar
That makes sense, that you arent meant to leave your car unattended. So just be somewhere near your car while its on timer yeah?

Also, many turbo timers have security measures to keep people from driving off.

My immobiliser activates even when the timer is ticking down.. and still cant be turned off without the key.. and once the engine stops, it wont restart. so the immobiliser is just as effective as it always would have been. My alarm arms also, while the engine is running. And whats more, my blitz turbo timer kills the ignition if the car moves so much as a single inch.

insurance cant complain about that

What kind of turbo timer do you have? Im looking for a new one and that sounds DAMN nice to me!!! Are they available in NZ and if so... do you know of any suppliers?

THEY DO HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO STUFF UP, BUT ITS A RARITY!!

IF U GOT A LOUD ENOUGH EXHAUST U SHOULD B ABLE TO HEAR YOUR CAR A BLCOK AWAY WHILE U R WALKING OFF!!:p

Originally posted by denjam69
THEY DO HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO STUFF UP, BUT ITS A RARITY!!

IF U GOT A LOUD ENOUGH EXHAUST U SHOULD B ABLE TO HEAR YOUR CAR A BLCOK AWAY WHILE U R WALKING OFF!!:p

and have time to go chasing after your car aswell? :D (keeping in the back of your mind all the mods youve just done to it! haha)

Originally posted by whatsisname
but I'm fairly sure it is illegal to leave your car running & unattended.

Well that has my vote for the stupidest thing I've heard in a while. What the hell business is it of anyone but me, if I want to leave my car running and not attended? Stupid bloody idea. btw, what country we talking? I know Australia has some fairly weird laws about various things - anyone know what the story is in NZ?

Originally posted by moondog


Well that has my vote for the stupidest thing I've heard in a while. What the hell business is it of anyone but me, if I want to leave my car running and not attended? Stupid bloody idea. btw, what country we talking? I know Australia has some fairly weird laws about various things - anyone know what the story is in NZ?
there is no law for it as yet... although most alarm makers wont cover your car if its stolen and the turbo timer is set (although how woudl they know unless they are stalking you!!! :P)

Originally posted by moondog


Well that has my vote for the stupidest thing I've heard in a while. What the hell business is it of anyone but me, if I want to leave my car running and not attended? Stupid bloody idea. btw, what country we talking? I know Australia has some fairly weird laws about various things - anyone know what the story is in NZ?

Hey don't shoot the messenger :D

I see where your coming from, but I guess there's a "MICROSCOPIC!!!" chance of the car engaging a gear (stuffed auto, manual impossible!!!) somehow & then ploughing into something or someone. I've seen a car (auto) on one of those "crazy drivers" TV shows that had done this exact senario.

I had an incident where the Fiancée decided to wash my car for me.. She slapped it in neutral started the car put the hand brake on.. then moved her brothers car..

I was doing the brakes on her parents car when I could here the ol' V8 common whore (broop Broop broop) down the driveway then !BANG!... into the house across the road... lucky i can laugh about it now.. If i remember correctly I stood up and covered my face with my hands...
Funny thing is she doesn't want to wash the car any more... heheh

The law in NZ is you cannot leave your car unattended while running... pathetic but true.

But really who actually listens to that rule??
One thing with alot of turbo timers is the handbreak sensor thing, so it wont work until the handbreak is on... seem ok like that.

The worse one is the alarms that start your car for you.... people leave it in gear and starts it... a guy I know's dad left his car in gear. then he goes out to drive it, starts it with the key and it takes off !! runs over a letterbox and into the neighbours, LOL! :D

Don't even worry about leaving the timer on and someone will drive the car away. Just turn the steering all the way to the left or right and lock it, no one can drive the car far.

It IS illegal to have a remote start system on a manual car.........Perfectly safe on a slushie! They wire to the hand brake so the remote will not work if the hand brake is not on and the car isn't in park.
There are ways to wire up your turbo timers so your alarm will work with it, I.E killing the ign if the door is opened and setting the alarm off; setting the ign kills after the timer has finished; having to disarm the alarm to get in and pressing the brake first or the ign kills switch on etc....Shit man, You can do anything with relays!
:bandit:

This is utterly bizarre! Everybody knows about turbo timers, so how is it (if leaving a car running is illegal) that no-one (ie Police) is saying anything about it? Think about it in terms of our friends in blue, and their revenue-raising efforts. How easy would it be to rock over to any gathering of performance cars, (say...the carpark at Big Boys Toys???) and just leave dirty great tickets on all the turbo-timed cars as soon as the owners are out of sight. :mad:

Dumb bloody law, that needs to go to the website (can't for the life of me remember the url) with all the stupid laws from various countries - like you can only shit in the street on sundays, and stuff :p




btw, I didn't mean to shoot no messengers :Dmy mind was just boggling with the stupidity of it! :eek2:

yeah well stupid laws are what we are good at :rolleyes:

There is 1 danger to turbo timers that has caught me out a few times and that is you park say out the front of a shop run in get what you want get back in your car and then drive off not realising the timer is still counting down and then the motor stops scares the hell out of me i think my car has broken down but then remember its just the timer i left on:alien: :alien:

Another problem with timers is in an major accident with fuel leaking,,,, almost any bystander can usually turn the engine off, but now the timer cuts in. I know it not a real problem with Nissans as our supply systems are pretty safe,,,but other makes have their tanks at the back of the boot.

i have a HKS turbo timer and someone hops in and puts the handbrake down to go, then it will switch the car off - im sure most systems would have something like this as a small preventitive measure - also my imobilisers are set up to kick in when the engine stops - which suits me cus im lazy

Originally posted by whatsisname
Nothing illegal about turbo timers, nothing illegal about having one fitted to your car, but I'm fairly sure it is illegal to leave your car running & unattended.
Save a few $$$ & use the human turbo timer method, YOURSELF :ylsuper (these smilies rock!!!)

well how long i have to wait?

It depends on how hard u drive it up to the moment you stop...

If u drive it pretty soft then wait maybe until u have your seatbelt off club lock on, wallet out of the glove box then turn it off...

Otherwise wait 1-2 mins max... thats what i do any way...

I have a Boomerang alarm on my car, which has the turbo timer built into it. It also remote starts the car (a manual), altough it will only let you remote start the car if you exit it, lock it, then come back and start it. If you unlock it again (to get something out for example) it will not allow you to remote start.

As far a remote starting it in gear, the car is always left with the turbo timer on, so it is out of gear anyway.

It is illegal to leave your car unattended and runinng, cause for example, you have a dog in your car (not in my bloody car) and it knock's it into gear. Hypothetical, but what can you do.

Jeff.

Originally posted by [TWUBLE]


What kind of turbo timer do you have? Im looking for a new one and that sounds DAMN nice to me!!! Are they available in NZ and if so... do you know of any suppliers?

Sorry about the late reply.
Just have a look at the Blitz Dual Turbo Timer range. Its great :)

Originally posted by flupstar


Sorry about the late reply.
Just have a look at the Blitz Dual Turbo Timer range. Its great :)

thanks mate! know any urls i could go to?

all you do is lock your doors, lol :D
then by the time anybody could pick the lock and get in the car the engine will turn off