Jacques Villeneuve

http://f1.racing-live.com/en/headlines/news/detail/030627201509.shtml (http://f1.racing-live.com/en/index.html?His thoughts on the future

"At the end of the day, it is what you do on a piece of paper that counts. Even though people know it is not your fault and see the hard work you are putting in, they wake up, read a piece of paper and you are at the back and that is all that matters."

It's never your fault, is it, Jacques? :rolleyes: So your appauling qualifying lap yesterday, your spin today and then the way you smashed your front wing at the NGK chicane (Button did that 3 times, but all of them on Friday) is also someone else's fault? What a champion.

he just keeps making excuses...but goes back to the same car year after year, that failes him so much. Button is scoring points. Maybe minardi will give him a drive next year.

Winning at the Ring in 96 and 97 and now fighting with the Minardi's for last position, go figure! :loser:

JV's just pathetic... to think i used to be a big fan of the guy :rolleyes:
i stopped making excuses for him at the start of this year following his appalling "war of words" with JB, which he so pathetically instigated... it just showed how worried he was about his new teammate...
he doesnt deserve a drive in a top car. i hope Button continues to destroy him

A spoiled brat! He thought he could make BAR "his" team and take them to the top, instead it's all blown up in his face and now he makes a fool of himself. :rolleyes:

JV is a talented driver, but I think he got lucky by getting good equipment at CART and with his first ride at F-1. I give him just a couple more seasons before all the teams reject him. There is a lot of new talent out there.

He could use an image adjustment. JV seems to come off as a stuck up jerk half of the time. He might be a great guy away from the track, but the interviews at the track make him look bad. Sponsors like a drivers who win and who have winning personalities. JV is no longer winning and the personality is coming off as a real loser. I think his future is in the IRL.

I somewhat used to be a fan of F1 when he was doing good with the Williams Renault team, but I still think if he had a decent car and team to support him he would be doing just as good if not better when he raced with the Williams team.

Originally posted by Amish_kid
I somewhat used to be a fan of F1 when he was doing good with the Williams Renault team, but I still think if he had a decent car and team to support him he would be doing just as good if not better when he raced with the Williams team.

if he was with the best team, was #1 driver and had a monkey as a teammate, and he murdered his freakin huge ego, i think he could do well in F1.

Originally posted by z33guy


if he was with the best team, was #1 driver and had a monkey as a teammate, and he murdered his freakin huge ego, i think he could do well in F1.

:rofl:

Are you guys insane? Didn't you see the save JV made when his car did a 360? he got back on the road ready to race, without a blink! He's a hardcore racer, in a bad car, he just got comfortable in the team, he's like a pig basking in the money, he lost some of his edge, and he has a new team mate that is trying to impress.

Originally posted by Ringo
Are you guys insane? Didn't you see the save JV made when his car did a 360? he got back on the road ready to race, without a blink! He's a hardcore racer, in a bad car, he just got comfortable in the team, he's like a pig basking in the money, he lost some of his edge, and he has a new team mate that is trying to impress.

Maybe, but the way he is performing right now, he isn't exactly going to move up to a bigger, better team is he?

Few are questioning his driving ability. But why did he make that 360 in the first place? I just quoted him whigning how his poor results were not his fault, and then he does the race with Minardis spinning and losing his wing all due to his own mistakes.

There's a news that might interest JV or non JV fans alike.

http://www.espnstar.com/jsp/cda/formula1/aid=677909formula1_newsdetail.html

I dont really pay much attention to JV, U guys seem to know him better.

But based on the above, he sounds very negative whereas teammate Button is the opposite.

Originally posted by freakray


Maybe, but the way he is performing right now, he isn't exactly going to move up to a bigger, better team is he?

That is exactly true. His behavings always were in the way of getting into another top team. McLaren didn't want him because of his reputation. If he could act a bit more "normal" h would have been so much better for McLaren then DC. So when we look at his career in F1, he had 2 very good years with Williams and from there on it was :loser:

Why so much ill feeling against Jaques?

Why do you make it sound like he is making excuses? In that article he is saying nothing of the sort. Rather he is being realistic that his lack of results with BAR is affecting his chances of staying in F1. Pretty obvious conclusion to me.

A tip for people who read F1 news sites - take no notice of the headlines and only read the bits that are in quotation marks. F1-Live even print them in a nice blue for you. At no stage does Villeneuve blame the team for his situation. It is the shoddy journalist who wote that he blamed factory problems and BAR was damaging his reputation.

I like Jaques, he was fantastic in a Williams from '96 through '98. Unfortunately he has screwed his career in the same way Emerson Fittipaldi did in the mid to late seventies. That makes him an easy target, but he placed his friendships above an easy path to more success. He deserves some credit for that.

Im a JV fan, i have been since his cart days. It just seems his ego has gotten out of control lately. I have no excuse for his poor performance because i dont know what goes on behind the scenes. When he bashed button, alittle part of JV love died inside me. I would love for his to get with a top team. I dont think he would take anything but a #1 drive and top teams are taken.

Originally posted by Chain
There's a news that might interest JV or non JV fans alike.

http://www.espnstar.com/jsp/cda/formula1/aid=677909formula1_newsdetail.html

I dont really pay much attention to JV, U guys seem to know him better.

But based on the above, he sounds very negative whereas teammate Button is the opposite.

Yeah but what did Button actually say? Stuff like "I was pleased that we managed to come away with two valuable points" and "will be another challenging race for us". Straight out of the PR bullshit handbook. Zero information.

Jaques in the other hand provides some insight and shows personality. It's okay to be depressed a bit you know, no point denying the facts as they stand. Hell things get me down from time to time. Doesn't mean he is going to try any less does it?

Not having a go at you Chain, you appear very neutral on the matter.

Originally posted by RallyRaider
Why so much ill feeling against Jaques?

Why do you make it sound like he is making excuses? In that article he is saying nothing of the sort. Rather he is being realistic that his lack of results with BAR is affecting his chances of staying in F1. Pretty obvious conclusion to me.

A tip for people who read F1 news sites - take no notice of the headlines and only read the bits that are in quotation marks. F1-Live even print them in a nice blue for you. At no stage does Villeneuve blame the team for his situation. It is the shoddy journalist who wote that he blamed factory problems and BAR was damaging his reputation.

I like Jaques, he was fantastic in a Williams from '96 through '98. Unfortunately he has screwed his career in the same way Emerson Fittipaldi did in the mid to late seventies. That makes him an easy target, but he placed his friendships above an easy path to more success. He deserves some credit for that.

so why attack Jenson? it smacks of "attitude problem syndrome" to me... JV's been acting like a spoilt little brat as soon as Richards arrived at BAR because he no longer had a "comfort zone"... so what? he shouldnt need one.. former champ, right?

Originally posted by crayzayjay

JV's been acting like a spoilt little brat

Yes, that's such a shame, the guy was the iron man when he was at Williams. Now he's stuck in a rut. But JV has never gotten along with any of his team mates.

Originally posted by RallyRaider


Yeah but what did Button actually say? Stuff like "I was pleased that we managed to come away with two valuable points" and "will be another challenging race for us". Straight out of the PR bullshit handbook. Zero information.

Jaques in the other hand provides some insight and shows personality. It's okay to be depressed a bit you know, no point denying the facts as they stand. Hell things get me down from time to time. Doesn't mean he is going to try any less does it?

Not having a go at you Chain, you appear very neutral on the matter.

Nps RRaider, I am merely stating what I feel about JV based on the news.
Perhaps when I have better knowledge and find I like or dislike JV will I decide to take sides.
Anways, this thread is about JV and not me.

Originally posted by crayzayjay


so why attack Jenson? it smacks of "attitude problem syndrome" to me... JV's been acting like a spoilt little brat as soon as Richards arrived at BAR because he no longer had a "comfort zone"... so what? he shouldnt need one.. former champ, right?

But did Jaques realy attack Button? As I recall he was simply said that compared to other teammates he'd had Button hadn't achieved anything in F1 yet. Basically that statement is true since drivers like Hill, Frentzen and Panis have all won races, not Button.

He also said that if he couldn't beat Button then he didn't belong in F1. Now that Button is ahead of Villeneuve in qualifying and points that statement is coming back to haunt him. Looks like he is true to his word though and is considering his future.

Only way to be sure is to get actual quotes. We can paraphrase him all day, twisting his words any which way. Proves nothing.

Ill try to find some quotes but some of it was definitely below the belt... saying JB'd been very unimpressive in F1, that sort of stuff. Im not trying to twist his words to prove my point, cos quite frankly ive lost all interest in him, but his behaviour was certainly petulant

His career took a turn for the worst when he decided to go to a team run by his manager. Plus, friendship or not, he followed the money rather than good cars and teams.

Regardless of what happens, don't feel sorry for JV. He's got tens of millions of dollars in the bank and a world title, and he's what, 32? Nice work if you can get it.

He can see out his racing days in CART or sports cars. I doubt he'd ever do IRL, but you never know.