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modded autos can beat sticks


mynismo
06-28-2003, 09:02 PM
look at the street racing forum
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t113839.html

Suislide
06-28-2003, 10:53 PM
there is no proof to back up that statement. for all you know, he could have been a shitty driver. he could have missed a gear, he could have done any number of other things that would have made him lose. i don't hate autos, but i just think you don't have the proper evidence to make such a claim so quickly.

besides, look at what you said. MODDED autos can beat STOCK sticks. well, no shit sherlock.

WhiteBlur
06-29-2003, 01:20 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: hahahah, no shit sherlock lol. Mynismo you have lots of mods done to your car so of course it could probably beat a stock stick.

mynismo
06-29-2003, 07:02 AM
of course sticks are faster... but you guys always say sticks rule over anything.

not true... this is not the only stick i beat.

Buddah
06-29-2003, 07:05 AM
Originally posted by mynismo
not true... this is not the only stick i beat.

I could say something really funny about this quote, but i dont want to scar some kiddies for life ;) .

Hey good I'm all for auto's beating manuals and vice versa. Sometimes I wish I had a mod in my car where you can switch it to auto from manual and vice versa on the fly because Im lazy.

mynismo
06-29-2003, 10:15 AM
yea, that's where i really do like the new gtp's with the power auto shift thing. i like those... that's the closest you can get to it.

i was just raising a point.... my next car, if it's setup for speed, will definately be a stick. i knew absolutely nothing about my car when i bought it, so now im stuck with it for as long as i have it (or as long as the auto tranny holds up :wink: )

but most of you think autos are def not for racing, when in dragging autos are all they use. manuals can give you good speed, but its all up to the driver and what kind of setup he wants. autos can be very very fast.

i have thought about upgrading the torque convertor and ecu, but then again i dont want to put any more money into the car.

Fliquer
06-29-2003, 10:37 AM
Automatics can be faster than sticks. A manual transmission simply offers more control over the vehicle, which is why enthusiasts choose it.

Suislide
06-29-2003, 02:26 PM
exactly. it feels more like YOU'RE controlling the vehicle, rather then the vehicle controlling itself.

i have nothing against autos, but if 2 cars, one with auto one with stick, with the exact same mods, were to race, chances are the stick would come out barely on top...

mynismo
06-29-2003, 04:07 PM
chances are, yes. but that's not always the case. you can never have a car one auto and one manual with the exact same mods. some mods can only be done to manual, and vice versa.

actually if you took two drag cars, both completely modded to the full extent, one manual and one auto, chances are auto will win, because of the more consistent time. the stick driver would have to drive it exactly perfect.

control wise yes a manual is prolly better. i guess its own personal preference.

Suislide
06-29-2003, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by mynismo
chances are, yes. but that's not always the case. you can never have a car one auto and one manual with the exact same mods. some mods can only be done to manual, and vice versa.

actually if you took two drag cars, both completely modded to the full extent, one manual and one auto, chances are auto will win, because of the more consistent time. the stick driver would have to drive it exactly perfect.

control wise yes a manual is prolly better. i guess its own personal preference.

on a street course, like around a track, a manual will probably dominate. and of course drag cars modded to the full extent will do better with an auto, but i'm talking street cars with a few small mods done to them. most times if you look at 0-60 times for the same factory stock car, the times for the manual version will be faster then the times for the auto version.

mynismo
06-29-2003, 04:46 PM
yep your right about that

with my first post i was talking drag racing though, not on a race course. straight line.....

dayna240sx
06-29-2003, 08:29 PM
but manuals are lighter... so the manual will win if you know how to drive.

mynismo
06-29-2003, 09:55 PM
you'd have to shift perfect.... it would never happen.

if you're going that fast you wont be able to shift fast enough. you'd have to be like a freakin yoda in racing.

Soyo
06-29-2003, 11:00 PM
can't shift perfect with a manual? maybe not every time but its doable, people do it all the time, autos are more consistant though

ThaLegend
06-29-2003, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by S13_Iketani
exactly. it feels more like YOU'RE controlling the vehicle, rather then the vehicle controlling itself.

i have nothing against autos, but if 2 cars, one with auto one with stick, with the exact same mods, were to race, chances are the stick would come out barely on top... Auto = Slush Box
If 2 cars were modded the same and one were auto, and the other was Stick the stick would win by a large margin espcially if they both had big drag slicks...

Auto = Cant drop at High RPM Stick = Can drop at High RPM

ghostchild316
06-29-2003, 11:40 PM
Wanna shift perfect everytime?

Get a sequential gearbox..:smile:

RalphCare
06-30-2003, 03:05 PM
for $1500 US i could get a new engine for a car, nevermind the sequential gearbox.


Although the videos of that gear box on importfan are fuckin crazy.. the gearbox looks 100% perfect.


mmmmmmm....sequential...... :bloated:

ghostchild316
06-30-2003, 03:17 PM
You mean the Ikeya formula seq. shifter right?
That's just a shifter that bolts on to your tranny and does all kinds of voodoo to shift like a sequential.You still have to use the clutch though:frown:

A REAL seq. tranny you dont use the clutch to shift.just tap the stick up or down.They also cost more then teh complete rb26 swap into a 240:bloated:

mynismo
06-30-2003, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by ghostchild316

A REAL seq. tranny you dont use the clutch to shift.just tap the stick up or down.
isnt what they have on those funny alcohol cars? i was just watching that today. my dad said there's no clutch in those cars.

Suislide
06-30-2003, 09:05 PM
i would personally love an Ikeya Sport shifter. i would actually hate to drive manual without a clutch, it just wouldn't feel right.

the sequential's you're talking about are like those on F1 cars, except with a shifter instead of paddles. no clutches on those either.

grncivicdhr
06-30-2003, 09:45 PM
too bad you can't do an SMG tranny swap. i got the chance to ride a Z4 SMG last week. while it still felt slow on the up shift compared to my stick the down shifting was amazing. it did every bit of heal toe for me.

Sanchi
07-01-2003, 06:44 PM
I can see where an auto might beat a stick, but thats gota be a manual driver that dont know how to launch!! Drop it at the right RPM and the stick will be a heads up in front of any auto, keep it at the 6k's and shift every time dont miss and your GONE!! And whats the point of Draging if its not you thats raceing but the slush box instead...:confused: takes no skill to race an auto just floor it and there you go... sounds like fun to me...:sly: Not bashing any autos cause my auto MAX will eat up anyone alive!! TRQ baby :thefinger

mynismo
07-01-2003, 07:03 PM
as i said before... my next car will be a stick

i was just letting you know that autos CAN be fast....... none of you believe that for some reason

Sanchi
07-01-2003, 07:29 PM
MY AUTO WILL EAT YOUR AUThttp://www3.sympatico.ca/travischan/PUB/burnout.gif

mynismo
07-01-2003, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by Sanchi
MY AUTO WILL EAT YOUR AUThttp://www3.sympatico.ca/travischan/PUB/burnout.gif
170hp VS 255hp. ahhh... yea. but mine cost 5 times less than yours :thefinger

GarageRCS
08-23-2003, 11:52 PM
:nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Yes i LIKE the stick over the auto, but please next time refer the car you are talking about, because 5-1 say My Buddys Jamese GTO hurse style shift auto will Make 9.3 concecutive quarter runs all day at 3 runs per tank YES AUTO, so for any of you morons .... who said ANY stick is faster, go to ur local track during domestics night then post on this thread plz close this crap :useless:

Suislide
08-23-2003, 11:54 PM
:nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Yes i LIKE the stick over the auto, but please next time refer the car you are talking about, because 5-1 say My Buddys Jamese GTO hurse style shift auto will Make 9.3 concecutive quarter runs all day at 3 runs per tank YES AUTO, so for any of you morons .... who said ANY stick is faster, go to ur local track during domestics night then post on this thread plz close this crap :useless:


stop posting on old threads with your useless bullshit and flaming.

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