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Bent/broke a push rod


Headnsouth
05-20-2014, 03:08 PM
While re-installation of the intake manifold gasket I inadvertently swapped an exhaust PR for a intake. It's bent and broke. :(

Did I also bend/damage the valve? Am I looking at pulling the heads now? what are my options now?
:crying:

500hpgtx
05-20-2014, 04:21 PM
Really sorry to hear. You should run a compression test. Compare that cylinder with a couple of others. You should also check the valve springs on that cylinder. Unlikely broken, but you need to check them.

If your cylinder pressure is way down, it is likely that you bent a valve. Best of luck on fixing your problem.

Headnsouth
05-20-2014, 04:51 PM
Thank you for your reply. I talked to a guy at work here said the same thing got my fingers crossed that I only bent the push rod.

Tech II
05-20-2014, 09:16 PM
Always remember this, if you put push rods in wrong(3.1/3.4), you will have a "long exhausting" day.......in other words the exhaust rods are longer......

Hopefully, you just bent the push rod......replace it and do a compression test, or do a leak down test.....if compression is low, you have a bent valve and have to hope there was no damage to the piston......

Headnsouth
05-22-2014, 01:14 PM
Can't get a hold of the broken rod with a magnet. It must be mushroomed and hanging up. Looks like I'll have to pull the intake.
Live and learn.

500hpgtx
05-22-2014, 03:48 PM
We've all been there at one time or another. Always a learning experience.

Hope you do not have to pull the head off. Or the piston out...best of luck

Headnsouth
05-22-2014, 04:08 PM
I'm taking an easy out and welding it to a rod. Hopefully I can get a grip on it and remove it. Got my fingers crossed.

Tech II
05-23-2014, 09:54 AM
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Headnsouth
05-23-2014, 10:22 AM
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What are my other options, besides pull the manifold off again? I'm hoping to get the easy out into the oil hole and extract. I realize it's a long shot but beats the alternative.

Headnsouth
05-28-2014, 05:38 PM
Managed to remove the push rod but bent the intake valve. :(

I'll pull the head's and get the valves redone and resurface the head. $150 for the pair.
Hopefully the exhaust manifold comes off without any problems.
Yea right. Lol
I'm soaking all the bolts with PB blaster and crossing my fingers.

Should I replace the head bolts?

maxwedge
05-28-2014, 07:27 PM
Try and find out if they are TTY bolts, torque to yield, if so one time use only.

Headnsouth
05-28-2014, 07:34 PM
Try and find out if they are TTY bolts, torque to yield, if so one time use only.
Thanks.
Yep, I'll do a search. But not from my cell. Tiny text and buttons make it a PITA. :)

500hpgtx
05-28-2014, 08:29 PM
I am hoping for you that you did not damage the piston. Everyone gets their share with older cars. I am having trans slipping problems with my grand prix. Hopefully a filter and fluid change will work...yeah right

Headnsouth
05-29-2014, 10:58 AM
I am hoping for you that you did not damage the piston. Everyone gets their share with older cars. I am having trans slipping problems with my grand prix. Hopefully a filter and fluid change will work...yeah right

I've had a good experience with using seafoams trans tune in 2 different vehicles. Ran it then changed the trans fluid and filter. Good luck.

Yes, the head bolts will need to be replaced as they are TTY. Thanks.

Headnsouth
05-29-2014, 04:28 PM
Got both heads removed without breaking a single bolt.Not even an exhaust bolt. Although one exhaust was already broken, held in by a hair.
:cheers: :shocked: not sure if it was the PB blaster that helped.
I'll post pics later.

500hpgtx
05-29-2014, 04:41 PM
The forward band broke on my grand prix. The part was in the trans pan. The same forward band broke in our Transport, and in my friends Grand Prix.

I bought a 300m forged input shaft and a larger 3rd gear piston. The horse power(150+ nitrous hit) broke the trans chain prior, and it will sheer off the stock input shaft.

Guess you did not chip a piston?

Headnsouth
05-29-2014, 05:07 PM
The forward band broke on my grand prix. The part was in the trans pan. The same forward band broke in our Transport, and in my friends Grand Prix.

I bought a 300m forged input shaft and a larger 3rd gear piston. The horse power(150+ nitrous hit) broke the trans chain prior, and it will sheer off the stock input shaft.

Guess you did not chip a piston?
Nope piston looks good.:)

Is the tranny something you'd fix yourself? I've never done more than remove one. Good luck either way.

Pics_
rear head
front cyl

Headnsouth
05-31-2014, 09:20 AM
Why don't my 2 other pics show up? Is there a 2 pic max?

Headnsouth
06-09-2014, 05:45 PM
I've got a question.

With using the Torque to yield bolts the manual says to use TTY angle gauge. Is this totally necessary or is there a recommended torque I can use in lieu of the gauge?
I have one I borrowed from a buddy but at the angle of some of these bolts it looks like it’ll be a real PITA to use.
Thx

rkvons
06-25-2014, 01:25 PM
I would use the angle gauge. Do you have the engine pulled forward? Another thing. Change your valve guide seals at this time.

Headnsouth
06-25-2014, 01:42 PM
I would use the angle gauge. Do you have the engine pulled forward? Another thing. Change your valve guide seals at this time.
Had a valve job done while I had it apart. All's good except for a P0171 Pontiac - Fuel Trim System Lean Bank 1.

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