Vtec with a turbo?
r0bert
06-27-2003, 02:43 PM
Hey I always wondered if its possible to put in a turbo compressor into a lets say a Prelude or a GSR which has a Vtec engine? I always thought that the vtec would flood the compressor.. I'm a newbie so cut me some slack :icesangel
Sluttypatton
06-27-2003, 03:05 PM
It is completely possible to turbocharge a Vtec motor, and I am sure it has been done many times. I don't know how well it would work though. When the Vtec actually kicks in, the valvetrain switches to a more aggressive profile, which may actually be detrimental to the overall performance of a turbo motor. The profile of the Vtec portion of the cam was designed for a naturally aspirated engine, and under turbo circumstances, may hurt performance. The overlap of the Vtec cam might be too aggressive for a turbo motor, and could actually be counter productive in a turbo motor.
r0bert
06-27-2003, 03:13 PM
so i guess it would be a waste of money to do so, am i right? im thinking of buying a 99-00 Prelude 2.2 vtec.. and i wanted to improve proformence .. any suggestion? i have about 20k with what im guessing 15-16k going twords the car it self.. i also wanted to know how much would it cost to get the door handles shaved off? please comment..
dblair
06-27-2003, 03:20 PM
Greedy offers a turbo and Jackson Raceing has a supercharger, both bolt on for 5th gen Preludes.
Sluttypatton
06-27-2003, 03:25 PM
I am not saying that turbocharging your car would be a waste, it will still give you a nice power increase. I was simply saying that the Vtec profile may not be ideal for turbocharging. Although the profile isn't ideal, you will still experience a hefty hp increase (although maybe not as much as with a better cam). Don't interpret what I said as telling you not to do it. I didn't mean to say that you would loose hp from the vtec cam, just that you might not gain as much. By all means turbo it, I am a huge turbo fan. Just look into it a bit, I haven't ever turbocharged a Vtec so I might be wrong.
r0bert
06-27-2003, 03:28 PM
how much would you think it would cost the compressor plus labor? and anyone know anything about the door handles?
Sluttypatton
06-28-2003, 10:04 PM
Anywhere from 2 to 6 thousand, depending on which turbo kit you buy and what your shops rates are. The turbo kit will probably be quite a bit more expensive than the labor.
Prelewd
06-29-2003, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by r0bert
so i guess it would be a waste of money to do so, am i right? im thinking of buying a 99-00 Prelude 2.2 vtec.. and i wanted to improve proformence .. any suggestion? i have about 20k with what im guessing 15-16k going twords the car it self.. i also wanted to know how much would it cost to get the door handles shaved off? please comment..
You could buy a 4th gen for 4 - 5k and have 15 or 16k to throw at mods. :icon16: I'd supercharge it. Jackson Racing has a good warranty I hear.
so i guess it would be a waste of money to do so, am i right? im thinking of buying a 99-00 Prelude 2.2 vtec.. and i wanted to improve proformence .. any suggestion? i have about 20k with what im guessing 15-16k going twords the car it self.. i also wanted to know how much would it cost to get the door handles shaved off? please comment..
You could buy a 4th gen for 4 - 5k and have 15 or 16k to throw at mods. :icon16: I'd supercharge it. Jackson Racing has a good warranty I hear.
r0bert
06-29-2003, 09:51 PM
i like the 5th gen lights.. damn 6g's? what elses can i do to it to imporve proformence...? something not as expensive.. what about the shaved off doorhandles... any one know?
KrNxRaCer00
06-30-2003, 12:58 AM
Originally posted by Prelewd
You could buy a 4th gen for 4 - 5k and have 15 or 16k to throw at mods. :icon16: I'd supercharge it. Jackson Racing has a good warranty I hear.
im pretty positive that they didn't make a supercharger for the 4th gens...only turbo...
could be wrong tho, 4th gen is 92-96 right? cuz if so...they didn't make a s/c.
btw guys...turbo on a vtec motor works very nicely...the high compression makes for great gains. read up a bit more an search the boards...too lazy to type out the entire explaination of why they're great for turbo.
You could buy a 4th gen for 4 - 5k and have 15 or 16k to throw at mods. :icon16: I'd supercharge it. Jackson Racing has a good warranty I hear.
im pretty positive that they didn't make a supercharger for the 4th gens...only turbo...
could be wrong tho, 4th gen is 92-96 right? cuz if so...they didn't make a s/c.
btw guys...turbo on a vtec motor works very nicely...the high compression makes for great gains. read up a bit more an search the boards...too lazy to type out the entire explaination of why they're great for turbo.
Sluttypatton
06-30-2003, 01:41 AM
I wasn't saying that the engine its self was poor for a turbo, just the cam profile. The Vtec cam's "hot" profile is engineered for an NA, but is pretty poor for turbo applications.
But lets face it, turbos are almost always a good thing.
But lets face it, turbos are almost always a good thing.
Prelewd
06-30-2003, 02:57 AM
Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00
im pretty positive that they didn't make a supercharger for the 4th gens...only turbo...
could be wrong tho, 4th gen is 92-96 right? cuz if so...they didn't make a s/c.
btw guys...turbo on a vtec motor works very nicely...the high compression makes for great gains. read up a bit more an search the boards...too lazy to type out the entire explaination of why they're great for turbo.
Damn hangovers... I should have spaced that a little better... I was suggesting he buy a supercharger for the 5gen.
The 4gen doesn't have a supercharger application for it yet because of firewall clearance problems. Or so I've heard.
im pretty positive that they didn't make a supercharger for the 4th gens...only turbo...
could be wrong tho, 4th gen is 92-96 right? cuz if so...they didn't make a s/c.
btw guys...turbo on a vtec motor works very nicely...the high compression makes for great gains. read up a bit more an search the boards...too lazy to type out the entire explaination of why they're great for turbo.
Damn hangovers... I should have spaced that a little better... I was suggesting he buy a supercharger for the 5gen.
The 4gen doesn't have a supercharger application for it yet because of firewall clearance problems. Or so I've heard.
T|_|l2BO
06-30-2003, 08:38 PM
These people are sayin a lot but haven't done it. Ta make it simple, yeah it's easy ta do, i know because i did it. Good luck with it you'll enjoy it:thefinger
Sluttypatton
07-09-2003, 09:59 AM
Your right, I havent turboed a prelude, but I have turboed quite a few other cars...and I wouldn't say it's "easy". It isn't the most difficult but it is time consuming, and requires a comprehensive understanding of how engines work.
Anyways, you just repeated what we already said, it is possible to do.
Anyways, you just repeated what we already said, it is possible to do.
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