how horses does your 4 banger push?

My 350ci, with an oversized cam, hooker comp headers, 750 4 barrell carb, pushes around 360hp. Have you ever hear an atomatic scratch in 3rd gear at 85 mph? Tell me what your ride is pushing.:flash:

TWAT

All my fours push in 250 are. And oh by the way, leaving scratch is all about torque not hp. So I guess the question is how much torque do you have?

If I wanted to I could push my fours up to 450 hp or so. But why. If I want numbers like that I drive my V8's.

Originally posted by bluevette74
My 350ci, with an oversized cam, hooker comp headers, 750 4 barrell carb, pushes around 360hp. Have you ever hear an atomatic scratch in 3rd gear at 85 mph? Tell me what your ride is pushing.:flash:
Wanker! :rolleyes: What's your problem bro? You must have an inferiority complex.

Grow up and read this

http://www.se-r.net/about/200sx/scc/feb99/index.html

..you might learn something.

My little 4-Banger Neon, is getting pretty close to 500 Hp, that's with a stock engine and a HRC Stage V Turbo charger.

your confused! I dont think that your little 4 cyl, neon is even close to 500 hp even with a stage v turbo! A chevy corvette z06.5 with a 350 ci small block thats a v8 for the less knowledged people and twin turbo only pushes 500hp with 500 ft/lbs of torque. so you may want to get a dyno test before you start to through out hp guesses.

I had my car dynoed. Therefore there is no way you can tell me it isn't punching about 500Hp. Different companies make different turbos, they aren't all the same. If they were all they same then everybody would have the same turbo all the time.

Originally posted by bluevette74
your confused! I dont think that your little 4 cyl, neon is even close to 500 hp even with a stage v turbo! A chevy corvette z06.5 with a 350 ci small block thats a v8 for the less knowledged people and twin turbo only pushes 500hp with 500 ft/lbs of torque. so you may want to get a dyno test before you start to through out hp guesses.

Care to see proof of a weak 4 banger putting down 400 WHP?

Originally posted by bluevette74
My 350ci, with an oversized cam, hooker comp headers, 750 4 barrell carb, pushes around 360hp. Have you ever hear an atomatic scratch in 3rd gear at 85 mph? Tell me what your ride is pushing.:flash:

yeah, my mothers old 1.8L gallant used to "scratch" going into 3rd.

I think it also had more spefic hp than your clearly poorly built 350.
Come back and boast to us when your making N/A 100hp per Liter. (thats 570hp)

Ok your lying about the dyno test! Because you would have told us exactly what it pushes not "its pushing close to 500 hp" like you dont know! And who ever the dippidy doo dah, who said that my 350 was poorly built is obviously not smart! Considering i have only put $1000 in mods I think that it is quite stout. And yall better check your books because chevy small block 350 is the winningest engine in history in all aspects of racing. And if you havent spent more than 8 or 9 grand on that neon, then their is no way in hell that your pushing 500 hp.

Originally posted by DigitalRacer
My little 4-Banger Neon, is getting pretty close to 500 Hp, that's with a stock engine and a HRC Stage V Turbo charger.

Ok, so your saying the only mod you have is the turbo and your pushing 500 HP? well the HRC site says that with the maximum output for the Stage V is 475 HP...

I would have to agree. 500 HP out of a 2.0L inline four seems pretty far fetched to me. What have you done to your frame, transmission, and transaxle to keep the power from tearing them apart?

I could get my 2.2L inline four running at over 500HP but the cost would be incredible, I doubt anyone would bother wasting the money. I don't know about everyone else but something smells funny to me.

Well, here is a little four banger, that I am proud to say, would give your 350ci a run for its money. :)

As for the guy with the neon, put up, or shut up.

http://www.ctwd.net/ser/Mvc-771f_small.jpg
http://www.ctwd.net/ser/images/dyno_100601.jpg

Oooooo, purdy.

Nice stats too.

Originally posted by kbslacker
Well, here is a little four banger, that I am proud to say, would give your 350ci a run for its money. :)

As for the guy with the neon, put up, or shut up.

http://www.ctwd.net/ser/Mvc-771f_small.jpg
http://www.ctwd.net/ser/images/dyno_100601.jpg

I can't wait to here the response.

Thanks for posting that kris. I was going to go looking for Jay's car soon to post here. :D:D I guess he didn't read the link about Ryans old 292hp at the wheels. Should have just pointed it out. Yeah I know that article is hopelessly out of date. :rolleyes:

I can't argue with that! Sure you could give my vette a run for its money, may even blow me away! But how much did you spend on that turbo i cant tell is their a second one as well?

Originally posted by bluevette74
I can't argue with that! Sure you could give my vette a run for its money, may even blow me away! But how much did you spend on that turbo i cant tell is their a second one as well?
Nope just one big ass turbo. Where do you think you see a second one? :confused: Twin-turbos on a 4 are a waste of time, energy and not very effeicent.

The F-max stage II kit on there is about $6k I think then he had a couple other things done to it and a lot of blood sweat and tears. I don't remember the final price.

I see one in the front, but it also appears to be one running behind the engine as well. Im not really into to turbos so that other tube in the rear may just be the air induction system i dont know?

Yeah man that is the intake manifold. That is one badddasss Nissan 4.:)

Originally posted by DemonZX
Yeah man that is the intake manifold. That is one badddasss Nissan 4.:)
He's right of course, that's just the stock intake plenum. :D

G Forces what do you think about Nissan cranking out all of these high power stock auto's?! The new damn Altima is putting out 240 stock. +new Z, Maxima's...Damn...Infinity thowing down too(i know same co.), but damn.

Originally posted by DemonZX
G Forces what do you think about Nissan cranking out all of these high power stock auto's?! The new damn Altima is putting out 240 stock. +new Z, Maxima's...Damn...Infinity thowing down too(i know same co.), but damn.
I think it's great! :D :D

So where is that 500HP dyno on a Neon? I think he misplaced the decimal point. 50.0 hp is probably what it said.

How can I misplace the decimal when there was no decimal placed in the number.

for the guy w/ the vette...
who cares what you run, and i bet for what some of these guys pay for their car w/ mods to beat you, you paid for your car.

i dont want to flame you, but who cares about how much we have , if all it is gonna do is fuel your v8 is better fire?

why even respond unless it is to correct your backwards thinking on this? and dont we all know that it is about power to weight?

and hell, your technology is from the fifties, most of the 4 cyl tech is from the last ten yrs. that is why most of these guys can spend what you did, on half the motor and kick v8 ass.
and i have no probs w/ v8s. but dont come putting down a 4 cyl and then not know what an intake manifold is...

do the research to see what kind of response you should get before you come in here and talk your shit and act like god...


oh, a twin turbo vette with mild, and i mean mild boost will push out 500... the average tt vette though, will be pushing closer to 700...
lingenfelter for example...

Imagine how the thing handles with those tires... http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?s=&postid=110128

And it would be hell slow with only 400HP and it weights ALOT!

In New Zealand old Vette's fetch as much money as a R32 GTR.. so as for price :flipa:

This is my baby im talking about the vette not the van! rebuilt 350/750 4 barrell carb/edlebrock intake manifold/shift kit/hooker headers/turbo 400 tranny. 370bhp, 360ft/lbs torque!
you have still spent abit of cash on it there buddy... $1000 probably not.


New Nissan VE engine. 1800 SR20VET, Awesome little engine.

1600 SR20VE N1 close to 200HP stock.

Originally posted by DigitalRacer
How can I misplace the decimal when there was no decimal placed in the number.


and we should believe this how?

Originally posted by DigitalRacer
How can I misplace the decimal when there was no decimal placed in the number.

Ok. Wheres that dyno sheet? Your bluff has been called. It would be nice if you appologized for pulling the BS or produce some evidence. You can hold onto the dream that you have 500hp and that the world is flat all day long, but outragous claims require strong evidence.

Originally posted by DigitalRacer
How can I misplace the decimal when there was no decimal placed in the number.

I am still waiting for you to answer my questions. I have only seen a few 500+ HP 2.0 or 2.2L cars and they were for setting land speed records. They are only good for a straight line run. A 500+ HP 2.0L Neon would not be a daily driver. So once again what did you do to your frame, transaxle, and transmission to keep the power from tearing them apart? And what abou the engine, a stage V on a 2.0L is risky, so what did you do to the engine to keep from blowing that?

We want proof.

Originally posted by Polygon


I am still waiting for you to answer my questions. I have only seen a few 500+ HP 2.0 or 2.2L cars and they were for setting land speed records. They are only good for a straight line run. A 500+ HP 2.0L Neon would not be a daily driver. So once again what did you do to your frame, transaxle, and transmission to keep the power from tearing them apart? And what abou the engine, a stage V on a 2.0L is risky, so what did you do to the engine to keep from blowing that?

We want proof.
Not really to back him up but it is totally possible. If you can get you hands on the September 2001 issue of Sport Compact Car they feature 4 400hp at the wheel cars.
whp = wheel horse power

- 400whp Miada (1.8l)
- 392whp FWD Eclipse (2.0l)
- 474whp Nissan 200sx SE-R (2.0l)
- 491whp Integra (1.8l)

These are all daily driven cars with full interior. So given a modest 15% drivetrain loss most of these cars are close if not well over the 500 crank hp mark. :D

I think we'll all agree that its possible, but we are doubting his claims that he has one of these rare beasts.

Originally posted by YogsVR4
I think we'll all agree that its possible, but we are doubting his claims that he has one of these rare beasts.
I was just pointing out to Polygon that a 450hp+ ~2.0l displacement 4 cylinder cars can be daily drivers. :D

I don't believe a stock neon can hack 500 h.p. A stock neon falls apart with its already overpowered engine. I do believe 500 h.p. is entirely possible from 2.0-2.4 liters of displacement. The unibody of a neon would require substancial re-inforcement to allow that much motor to move without twisting it in half. Besides, can a stock engine really stand that much boost required to generate 500 h.p.?

I just wanted to thank whoever posted the dyno sheet. If there's one thing that irks me, is someone bragging about huge horsepower, and having nothing to back it up. It is usually the same person that thinks the advertised performance gains of a certain product is actually what you get at the rear wheels. Example K&N, cold air kit etc. If I actually got the advertised gains, my car should be alot closer to 325 rwhp. My car dyno'd right at 270 rwtq / 270rwhp close to stock. With the mods I have done, I'll be lucky to break 300 rwhp.

Just in case I get called out myself, here is my dyno sheet...:D

http://www.netsnapshot.com/users/1143/images/O30ZUsCoBQIAAEu83Mo_1143_12.pjpeg

blacksnake98 - thats pretty good power coming out of that Mustang. Its hard to find AWD dynos - you have to be on one of the coasts to find one. I want to dyno the Spyder to see how much the mods really added. I'd like to run at 15psi and at 19psi to see where it stands.

Honestly, I expected more since Ford advertised 305hp at the crank, but it wasn't that bad. Like I mentioned before, I hope to be somewhere close to 300rwhp with my mods. I've couple a couple more things in mind that should push me over that mark N/A if I'm not quite there. Good luck finding your AWD dyno, and let me know some #'s when you do.

Who are you talking to? :confused:

Im talking about flywsi and gts!

i dont know what i missed, but hey... im not against anyone here, but read what i said...

flylwsi, i deleted what he said cause what he said was completely uncalled for.

It doesn't, it is about ready to blow. I don't know how it could've lasted this long but it did. I'm learning the hard way that I may need to make some upgrades to those things