BRG McLaren F1?

Hi,

Does anyone have a photo of an F1 finished in British Racing Green? I have seen some photos with a shade of green but not one that I can honestly say is BRG (like the Lotus Elan Jim Clark Edition).

TIA,


D. Drew Ingram

I've never seen a photo of the BRG F1 - sorry man.

It would be interesting though so if anyone else has it, please post it up.

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this green ?

http://membres.lycos.fr/mclarenwallpaper/Green-05.jpg

That's pretty close to what I was thinking. On the classicars.com site they list only 1 car finished in BRG. That is surprising to me given the car's British heritage. I attached a picture of the Lotus for reference. This is the color I would choose for an F1 if one were mine.

Thanks for the picture!!

Originally posted by jkbon
this green ?

http://membres.lycos.fr/mclarenwallpaper/Green-05.jpg

thats the car i was thinking of

Originally posted by drewwtms
That's pretty close to what I was thinking. On the classicars.com site they list only 1 car finished in BRG. That is surprising to me given the car's British heritage. I attached a picture of the Lotus for reference. This is the color I would choose for an F1 if one were mine.

Thanks for the picture!!

i would have thought there would be more in that color too

if you look carefully, this car is green.dunno if it is the brg car... http://www.aia.tartu.ee/~indrek/euroopa/briti/mclaren/mclaren_f1_service_3.jpg

Originally posted by jkbon
this green ?

http://membres.lycos.fr/mclarenwallpaper/Green-05.jpg

I'm fairly certain that we determined that to be car #073 painted AMG Green Velvet.

British Racing Green, as I am familiar with it, is normally a much darker shade of green - almost black and not Metallic. Here's an example of an old Lotus Elan painted "BRG" over white.

http://www.manilasportscarclub.org/images/Lotus-LF.jpg

The photo that mini_magic posted could definitely be the one. Hard to say...

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I could not get it to come up. And it did not work when I copied the link into IE. Can someone re-post it or e-mail it to me? E-mail is [email protected]

Thank you

Here's the photo that mini_magic posted.

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I have also these ... but its maybe the same car ?!

http://membres.lycos.fr/mclarenwallpaper/Green-15.jpg

http://membres.lycos.fr/mclarenwallpaper/Green-16.jpg

I think jkbon nailed it with that second picture (with the Michelins). That looks like real BRG to me. Such a sweet car in my opinion.

Thanks for posting everyone!

Actually, I'd put money on the car in the second photo that jkbon posted being XP5 - remember that even though XP5 appears black in almost every photo, it is really a dark shade of green. Its color is always listed as "Dark Metallic Green". I think the British Racing Green car would be close in color, but I still don't think we've seen a photo of that particular car.

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?? http://www.aia.tartu.ee/~indrek/euroopa/briti/mclaren/mclaren_f1_service_4.jpg

also, go here, it has some incredible pix, includeing some hi res pics of the mclaren service facility and cars getting serviced

http://www.aia.tartu.ee/~indrek/euroopa/briti/mclaren/

mini-magic -

That's the same car as the other photo you posted. I didn't think of it earlier, but that could also be XP5.

XP5 doesn't wear the decal on the lower body that identifies it as such anymore. Who knows when or where those photos were taken though. My guess is that is still not the 'British Racing Green' F1 because of the metallic-blue look of the color where the light is hitting it.

Notice what happens to the color of that same Lotus Elan I posted above when a flash photo is taken of it:

http://www.manilasportscarclub.org/images/Engine-bay.jpg

True BRG is more of a flat green color and as you can see it is closer to the yellow end of the green spectrum than the blue end. Who knows what McLaren Cars used as a sample for the BRG car though... :confused:

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Originally posted by Peloton25


I'm fairly certain that we determined that to be car #073 painted AMG Green Velvet.

British Racing Green, as I am familiar with it, is normally a much darker shade of green - almost black and not Metallic.

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peloton, sorry, but there is no way that car is this color: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?s=&postid=993666 , the shade is all different, the car stays the same color the whole time and if you look at the other pics that guy got of the car (i assume you have them, if not i'll post them) you will see that it is more likely to be brg or chassis #51, "dark metallic green". BTW: does anyone have any more pics of chassis #73?? I only have one :frown:

WOW! i just realized, this car is owned by the guy in sweeden (peloton, now i know why you said this car was the amg green velvet car), you can tell by all the cars in the background. hummmm, sorry peloton, u may be right afterall......

http://speed.supercars.net/boardpics/2003-5-28/1226758-mini%20magica.jpg http://speed.supercars.net/boardpics/2003-5-28/1226758-mini%20magicb.jpg http://speed.supercars.net/boardpics/2003-5-28/1226758-mini%20magicc.jpg http://speed.supercars.net/boardpics/2003-5-28/1226758-mini%20magicd.jpg http://speed.supercars.net/boardpics/2003-5-28/1226771-mini%20magica.jpg http://speed.supercars.net/boardpics/2003-5-28/1226771-mini%20magicb.jpg http://speed.supercars.net/boardpics/2003-5-28/1226771-mini%20magicc.jpg

Originally posted by mini magic
WOW! i just realized, this car is owned by the guy in sweeden (peloton, now i know why you said this car was the amg green velvet car), you can tell by all the cars in the background. hummmm, sorry peloton, u may be right afterall......


Yep - same car... Amazing what the lights from an auto show can do to bring out the depth of a color.

It's also the same one in that side view wallpaper shot of the car speeding on the previous page, and the super high res 1976x2057 shot with the guy standing next to the car that's out there on the web somewhere. I'm fairly certain you're familiar with that shot.

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Originally posted by drewwtms
I think jkbon nailed it with that second picture (with the Michelins). That looks like real BRG to me. Such a sweet car in my opinion.


Here's a different angle on that photo that proves it was XP5 - note this car still wears the turn indicators of the earlier prototypes (XP2-XP4). I had actually never noticed it before when looking at this shot, and had always assumed that XP5 never had the original style front end.

Also, note the raised white lettering on the Michelin's in this shot as well. Probably something that was done for promotional use - that's about the only time you see white lettering on these kinds of tires.

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Originally posted by Peloton25


Here's a different angle on that photo that proves it was XP5 - note this car still wears the turn indicators of the earlier prototypes (XP2-XP4). I had actually never noticed it before when looking at this shot, and had always assumed that XP5 never had the original style front end.

Also, note the raised white lettering on the Michelin's in this shot as well. Probably something that was done for promotional use - that's about the only time you see white lettering on these kinds of tires.

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hey, i just got the >8^) thing. Peloton, thanks for the info again. That pic u posted is from a book i saw in borders. In the same visit i also found the book with the white mclaren in it and the book with some pics of the yellow car. btw: do u have any more pics of the amg green velvet car? its a beautiful color. and also how do u know the car in the pic of xp5? keep up the good work.

Originally posted by mini magic
hey, i just got the >8^) thing.

hehe... It looks even better like this:

>8^)

But I'm just too lazy to type out all the code associate with that each time.

btw: do u have any more pics of the amg green velvet car? its a beautiful color.

A beautiful color indeed, and I do have more pics. Are the ones you posted of it outside at the Zaandvoort race track the only other shots you have besides that single autoshow photo? Let me know and I'll put up some others for you.


...and also how do u know the car in the pic of xp5? keep up the good work.

If you're referring to the last picture I posted, basically as I said the turn indicators give it away as being a prototype as those were changed before the first customer car was built. Since we know that the only green prototype was XP5 - viola, that seals it in my opinion. Also, if you think about it, XP5 was McLaren Cars' promotional car and more photos have been taken of that car than any other McLaren F1 ever (including Dan Kennedy's ;) ) so there's a high likelyhood that this is just another set of photos of XP5. It would have to be a very early photo of that car given the earlier front end treatment - like I said, I never knew XP5 was ever fitted with that style front end. I thought they had made the final styling decisions by the time that car was produced.

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yeah, peloton, those are the only pics i have of it. if you could post them i would be much oblidged.


and because you've helped out a lot, when i wen to park land they have the mclaren race team mag there and i picked one up and it had an f1 article in it (short but cool, chassis #001 was used in it), it is about murray walker driving his 1st mclarne f1. i'll scan it and post it. altho i don't know when cause i am moving house in a week :bigthumb:

wooo mclaren's @ zandvoort? (yup, that's zandvoort with only one a:p)
if that is to happen again and anyone of you knows, feel free to email me @ [email protected] zandvoort is in holland.
i don't have the pics, if you'd be so kind to post them, i'd appreciate it.

Originally posted by maartenvanthek
wooo mclaren's @ zandvoort? (yup, that's zandvoort with only one a:p)
if that is to happen again and anyone of you knows, feel free to email me @ [email protected] zandvoort is in holland.
i don't have the pics, if you'd be so kind to post them, i'd appreciate it.

i'm not sure if it happens every year. i also have a very short video of it going round the track being b followed by his (i assume) BUGATTI EB110.



btw: peloton, do u have those pics yet??

yeah i have the vid to, but i don't recall it as being zandvoort.
i always intend to go their with my uncle, he knows hans hugenholtz:) but it neverr happens.


rgrds



maarten

Hey there, I own the book “Driving Ambition”, the official inside story of the Mclaren F1 if you didn't know. With it comes a poster, and on the back is the chassis history of each 'F1'. Listed with each one is the colour. Listed next to the Mclaren with the V.I.N. number '023' is 'British Racing Green'. It is the only one of this colour. Hope this helps you in your quest :-)

Originally posted by shanof1
Hey there, I own the book “Driving Ambition”, the official inside story of the Mclaren F1 if you didn't know. With it comes a poster, and on the back is the chassis history of each 'F1'. Listed with each one is the colour. Listed next to the Mclaren with the V.I.N. number '023' is 'British Racing Green'. It is the only one of this colour. Hope this helps you in your quest :-) yeah thats w3here this whole argument started

the british racing green mclaren is currently for sale on www.thecarexperience.com

If the chassis number listing at classicars.com is to be believed (and I think it should be) the only original BRG F1 was made in 1994 (#023 1994 Road Car, British Racing Green). A new owner could repaint a car though so this could be one. That's the problem with guessing at chassis numbers and colors... colors can change from owner to owner. It's a shame that picture is only a file photo and not of the actual one for sale.

Thanks!

Originally posted by drewwtms
If the chassis number listing at classicars.com is to be believed (and I think it should be) the only original BRG F1 was made in 1994 (#023 1994 Road Car, British Racing Green). A new owner could repaint a car though so this could be one. That's the problem with guessing at chassis numbers and colors... colors can change from owner to owner. It's a shame that picture is only a file photo and not of the actual one for sale.

Thanks!

i know, for all we know there could be 4 brg cars now adn there is no way to tell them apart :mad: