I'm about to buy a ex-works Focus

I've been looking around for a rally car. I worked hard the past years and almost got the money to start rallying.

I saw this car, a Ford Focus WRC 2001: http://rallycarsforsale.net/clas/index.php?ct=fsrc&md=details&id=3091

They still have it for sale, but 370000 Euro is a bit too much, so I contacted the seller and I can get it for less, 350000 Euro. Still, a lot of money.

Question for you guys, is it worth the price?

Wow! :eek:

I have absolutely no idea on the pricing of those things, but if you can afford it (and I hate and envy you if you can! :wink: ), then by all means go for it!

That's cool Markko, will they give you more photos though?

Hey, is it me or does that look like Tso's car?:confused:

Originally posted by freakray
Hey, is it me or does that look like Tso's car?:confused:

Thought about it, checked, and have to say that it's that same car in the same very place (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?postid=1022447#post1022447) :mad:

Excellent find Marco.

But is anybody really surprised? I think we all saw this coming a long time ago.

I was starting to feel bad about giving the guy a hard time but feel fully vindicated now.

Alex, is it possible to ban him over this?

Originally posted by RallyRaider
Alex, is it possible to ban him over this?

I see no reason to ban him. It's not exactly against the user guidelines, and besides, I'd love to see him get out of this one (although I have a felling he won't come back under that name).

Come on, Tso, honey, comment on this. Please do! Please! :icon16:

I think Tso has gone shy on us.....:icon16:

Marco_Wrc is the man of the day! :sunglasse

so long baby :loser:

Elementary, dear Watson!

Very nice investigating...!
As for the car, I wouldn't buy it, I think somebody bought it already (somebody on this forum , I m not going to say who, but his name starts with a "T" , and ends with a "SO" ...


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Olivier

Originally posted by bigfrit
Elementary, dear Watson!

Very nice investigating...!
As for the car, I wouldn't buy it, I think somebody bought it already (somebody on this forum , I m not going to say who, but his name starts with a "T" , and ends with a "SO" ...


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Olivier

Don't know if you're joking there Olivier, but I can confirm that the car is very much still available and for sale :wink:

I have proof.....:devil:

Tso, ignoring this won't make it go away! :D You can even delete your stupid lies, this thread is beyond your control, and besides, we here have a rather small and close group of friends, and we still know all about your Focus, your other rally catrs, your Argentina rally and your general knowledge of rally. And we're waiting for an apology.

not ignoring anything.... just don't really know what to say.

i've been working on that car for some 6 months with Rano. just trying to get the price down.

350000 is not too bad from what it was before. that is less than i was going to pay.

i was intended to actually give the money over within the week. now... not so likely. i've other shit to tend to anyways.. besides, there will always be another one.

so for speaking so early 'bout that, and saying i had already acquired it... sorry for that.

my other rally cars? general knowledge.?

the reason i've been deleting myself- i have not had a liking taken towards me from the begining. so that first post was a bit aggresive, but come on... how long can you hold a grudge? really....
after the first post, nothing i said was ever taken seriously nor correctly.
so there is no need to have my shit posted about the place.

please do not knock my friends site. he works hard on that thing, and who cares if we fuck off a bit on it. it is harmless, and he is just starting.

from what you have thought of me from the begining, and "attacked" me. i don't see how anything i say or do would effect you.
so if i said i invented the light bulb. what would it matter.

anyways, thanks for discrediting me. it was fabulous.

i don't recall any one ever being remotely kind to me in here. so, it's been pissy from the begining.

BTW... i wan't hiding anything

Originally posted by Tso
anyways, thanks for discrediting me. it was fabulous.

Our pleasure!

Unfortunately, can't take credit for that. I give all the credit to you, you discredited yourself with your lies, with your useless posts and withthe apparent lack of knowledge (yes, I read an article or two by you on that website (which I don't believe is your friend's but rather yours, but it matters not)

sorry,

i don't know how to make a website.

Originally posted by Tso
i don't recall any one ever being remotely kind to me in here. so, it's been pissy from the begining.


Cry me a river :rolleyes: You came here insulting everyone, you posted lies about cars you own, and it's you who, after being disclosed, can't take it like a man (a sissy little man that you are, but still...)

Originally posted by Tso
not ignoring anything.... just don't really know what to say.


Well, then you haven't really learned your lesson just yet, have you? :rolleyes:

i didn't come here insulting everyone.

nor did i lie 'bout cars i own.

i spoke to soon on the focii that's all.

sissy man... hahaha.. whatever. fairy f****

nearly every post i was insulted. so what.

what is your -implied- lesson?

Originally posted by Tso
i didn't come here insulting everyone.

nor did i lie 'bout cars i own.

i spoke to soon on the focii that's all.

sissy man... hahaha.. whatever. fairy f****

nearly every post i was insulted. so what.

Your lies were insulting....and you say you were insulted?

You spoke too soon on a lot of things, assuming we're not up-to-date on rally developments and posing as some wonderful driver....

From day 1 on AF you have lied, been deceitful and called names, to cap it all you start insulting Mods....you need to go away and have a long hard look at yourself, because you, Tso, are a joke!!

never said i was a wonderful driver. where did you get that?


lol. you guys are great.

on a lot of things? lol like what?

i would hope you are up-to-date.


i had to repeat nearly half the things i said. and most of the things were either taken out of context, or just plain mis-understood.

Look at Tso he is melting away :tongue:

So your strategy is to erase all your posts and deny all your lies? Look at your post count, you have deleted 75 percet of them since yesterday. Please make sure you get rid of the remaining fify or so before you skulk out of here in disgrace.

You are not only a liar and a thief you are also a coward. Afraid to stand up to your accusers and take responsibility for your actions. No doubt you even cheat when you play Colin McRae Rally. Which I bet is the closest you have ever been to driving any car let alone a rally car. You are even deleting our posts where we call you to account. Fortunately while you can delete the threads you started there are plenty more like this one you don't have the privleges to touch. It is too late to dissapear now, but please keep trying. Here are still fifty odd post left before you finish the job. Bet you won't even do that properly, ask your Mummy to help if it is all a bit much.

We were on to you from day one you tool, that is why we taunted you and treated you with contempt. Your lies kept growing bigger and bigger and we waited for you to slip up. Funniest thing was the evidence was right there on your homepage! Error ridden as it is I doubt the website is yours, since you wouldn't have leant about HTML at school yet!

Originally posted by Tso
i didn't come here insulting everyone.


You most certinly did. I recall your first words succinctly, "Okay all you SOBs" they were. No doubt you've deleted that.

Originally posted by Tso

nor did i lie 'bout cars i own.


Lieing about lies?

Originally posted by Tso

i spoke to soon on the focii that's all.


Yeah sure did. Need to get a lisence first.

Originally posted by Tso

sissy man... hahaha.. whatever. fairy f****

nearly every post i was insulted. so what.


Nearly every post? You obviously were too thick to pick up on some of the more subtle taunts. We were on to you in EVERY post lad.

Good riddance Tso. Do the world a service and eliminate yourself from the gene pool. Although I guess that is unnecessary because no women would ever want a sniveling little toe rag like you.

Originally posted by Tso


what is your -implied- lesson?

Your lesson should be that not all websites are playgrounds where you can talk rubish all the time. AF for the matter is a serious, honorable, correct, decent and honest forum where we thread each other with respect instead of bullshitting around like you did. We don't tell stuff to each other and make it sound like for real for then afterwards saying, I was a bit this and a bit that. You most likely thought this forum was another playground to play around with people and although I haven't met any of the posters/friends overhere, we all took it very serious from the beginning.

No wonder, your rally forum is not populated and are you forced to talk to yourself overthere. You say, well it is new, I accept that, beut let me tell you as a webmaster myself, if you are gonna behave on your forum like you did here, it will never be succesfull.

That's the lesson you should get out of this.

Originally posted by Tso
never said i was a wonderful driver. where did you get that?


I wonder if it could have been in one of those 150 plus posts you just deleted?

Originally posted by Tso
i had to repeat nearly half the things i said. and most of the things were either taken out of context, or just plain mis-understood.

But Tso your main argument technique was to just repeat youself ad nauseum, remember your post whoring? If you recall I even asked you to stop repeating youself. But would you listen? No you were too busy dreaming up more lies.

We understood you alright, better than you realised. We saw that there was no substance behind your writings. In fact, given the circumstances, we were extrodinalrily polite on the forum. You should have seen some of the PMs.

Originally posted by Tso


please do not knock my friends site. he works hard on that thing, and who cares if we fuck off a bit on it. it is harmless, and he is just starting.



Don't knock a site that deliberately perpetuates lies?
Don't knock a site that for 'harmless fun' advertises false rally results which credit YOU with top finishes against some brilliant drivers?
Don't knock a site that lists you are a 'Mitsubishi Works' driver?

Maybe we should let Mitsu see that site so they know they owe you a pay check and what a brilliant driver you are, maybe you could get Delecour's drive for 2004?

As to what cars you've laid claim to owning....I believe there was a 2004 WRX STI, a Lancer Evo VI, the Focus....I know there was another Lancer but I forget which generation you wet-dreamed that to be....

The only fool here is you, you seemed to think we wouldn't pick up on your lies and now you're upset because we've called you out for it.

You're a sad, sad little man Mr Tso:headshake

This forum changes very fast, 1 second ago there was a post by Alister, somthing like this:


I delete all my posts because I leave.


If you can't act normal, that's the best thing you can do.
I'm not happy with the way you messed this forum up, though I'm happy I learned the regulars on this forum have respect for each other.

No matter how smart you are (how much you know about rally), how good you can drive a rally car, if you can't communicate with others in a normal way there is no place for you here.

O, about the Focus. I had to come up with something :rolleyes: I'm not buying it, I cannot afford it, I'll never be able to buy it. The price was made up also.

I banned Tso and Alister

Originally posted by ales
I banned Tso and Alister

Anyone care for a drink?
Hard labour needs to be celebrated with a few beers.

Thanks guys http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/icons/icon14.gif

Originally posted by Marco_Wrc


Anyone care for a drink?
Hard labour needs to be celebrated with a few beers.

Thanks guys http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/icons/icon14.gif

Thank YOU Marco, it was YOU that made it possible to pull our case together.

Thank you Alex for looking after the Rally Forum:smile:

Originally posted by Marco_Wrc


Anyone care for a drink?
Hard labour needs to be celebrated with a few beers.

Thanks guys http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/icons/icon14.gif

Love to have a drink with you Marco, and the rest of the guys. We have someting to celebrate!

RIP Tso :biggrin:

I learned one thing in this story. Although we support different teams and favour different drivers, when it came down to some issues beyond that, we all pulled together. Gives me a good feeling!

Thanks guys! :bigthumb:

Originally posted by huudo
I learned one thing in this story. Although we support different teams and favour different drivers, when it came down to some issues beyond that, we all pulled together. Gives me a good feeling!

Thanks guys! :bigthumb:

Very well said , Mr. Guido !

And I think this was one entertaining episode I 've just witnessed here ! Great job , guys!

Wheter we can't have a "real beer" , we could always enjoy this next one, right ;-)

http://www.beer.com/ca/img/be/be_fea_can_vs_usa_sp.jpg

Cheers !

Olivier