Looking for an engine to fill the gap in the 993 GT2 kit
Hemi Killer
02-06-2014, 01:15 AM
I am working on the tamiya GT2 kit and there is a pretty heft gap between the intercoolers and where the engine should be. Would pretty much any Porsche engine work?
I have the 959 kit, but I'd hate to rob the engine from it.
How have you guys dealt with this in the past? I suppose a fan by itself would be okay.
I have the 959 kit, but I'd hate to rob the engine from it.
How have you guys dealt with this in the past? I suppose a fan by itself would be okay.
lovegt40
02-06-2014, 04:15 AM
there is part of it in the italeri crap 964/993 model serie. actually they are bran new issued and for sale at 20 euros..maybe it worth a look..
drunken monkey
02-06-2014, 07:04 AM
Between the bottom half of the Tamiya GT2 and the part top half of the Italeri/Revell 993 turbo, you get get a pretty complete engine block.
There are small problems like the engine shroud being moulded as part of the block but in place, it doesn't make much difference.
The 959 engine doesn't work as it's a peculiar mix of air cooled cylinders with water cooled heads. You could use the block from an Enthusiasts Porsche 930 Turbo kit but again, the newer details on the top half of the kit will need to fabricated or otherwise sourced again; the Italeri Porsche Turbo has some of these.
There are small problems like the engine shroud being moulded as part of the block but in place, it doesn't make much difference.
The 959 engine doesn't work as it's a peculiar mix of air cooled cylinders with water cooled heads. You could use the block from an Enthusiasts Porsche 930 Turbo kit but again, the newer details on the top half of the kit will need to fabricated or otherwise sourced again; the Italeri Porsche Turbo has some of these.
MPWR
02-06-2014, 08:34 AM
How have you guys dealt with this in the past? I suppose a fan by itself would be okay.
Simple- by gluing the engine lid shut.
I absolutely love the 993, and the engine that it contains. I've built Tamiya's GT2, and am most of the way through Italeri's 993 Turbo. But having done that, I would urge you not to bother with an engine for the GT2. 911 engines are already more than difficult to see. But with that huge shipping palette of an intercooler on top, a detailed engine in the GT2 car is particularly pointless.
Precisely nothing of that engine is visible. (Except that intercooler)
http://www.v12-gt.com/var/v12gt/storage/images/petites-annonces-gratuites-pour-acheter-ou-vendre-une-voiture-de-sport-et-prestige/porsche-993-gt2-vendu-1995/168322-1-fre-FR/PORSCHE-993-GT2-VENDU-1995_zoom.jpg
(Notice this is in fact the small, road version of the intercooler- not the large, track version included in the Tamiya kit.)
You can scratchbuild a detailed fan shroud and rotor, A/C compressor, wired distributor, and pulley system (I've done all of this for my 993 Turbo build), and the intercooler still hides everything.
I recommend you save your efforts for a kit where you can enjoy them afterwards.
Simple- by gluing the engine lid shut.
I absolutely love the 993, and the engine that it contains. I've built Tamiya's GT2, and am most of the way through Italeri's 993 Turbo. But having done that, I would urge you not to bother with an engine for the GT2. 911 engines are already more than difficult to see. But with that huge shipping palette of an intercooler on top, a detailed engine in the GT2 car is particularly pointless.
Precisely nothing of that engine is visible. (Except that intercooler)
http://www.v12-gt.com/var/v12gt/storage/images/petites-annonces-gratuites-pour-acheter-ou-vendre-une-voiture-de-sport-et-prestige/porsche-993-gt2-vendu-1995/168322-1-fre-FR/PORSCHE-993-GT2-VENDU-1995_zoom.jpg
(Notice this is in fact the small, road version of the intercooler- not the large, track version included in the Tamiya kit.)
You can scratchbuild a detailed fan shroud and rotor, A/C compressor, wired distributor, and pulley system (I've done all of this for my 993 Turbo build), and the intercooler still hides everything.
I recommend you save your efforts for a kit where you can enjoy them afterwards.
klutz_100
02-06-2014, 09:23 AM
simple- by gluing the engine lid shut.
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I recommend you save your efforts for a kit where you can enjoy them afterwards.
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I recommend you save your efforts for a kit where you can enjoy them afterwards.
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Hemi Killer
02-06-2014, 12:46 PM
I appreciate the advice. I am not going to glue the lid shut. I have the hobby design PE kit and I want to take advantage of it. Using the intercooler faces and such. I really want to make this a nice build and that gap will look weird. I will check the italeri kit or maybe I will leave it as is
MPWR
02-06-2014, 03:26 PM
Seems like a lot of effort to go through to use a bit of photoetch.
That said, if your scratchbuilding skills are up to it, a cooling fan shroud and rotor are really about all you need to do. The cowling that sits atop the engine in front of the fan can't be seen. You could put a some random technical looking debris to suggest dark, important shapes under the intercooler- like some pieces of 1/8" tubing or bits of sprue to look like intake manifold ducting of the like.
You could use the 959 fan as a reference to copy. I might guess that the 993 fan is a bit larger, but I do not know. Do not bother getting the Italeri kit, as the 'fan' in it is unusable.
That said, if your scratchbuilding skills are up to it, a cooling fan shroud and rotor are really about all you need to do. The cowling that sits atop the engine in front of the fan can't be seen. You could put a some random technical looking debris to suggest dark, important shapes under the intercooler- like some pieces of 1/8" tubing or bits of sprue to look like intake manifold ducting of the like.
You could use the 959 fan as a reference to copy. I might guess that the 993 fan is a bit larger, but I do not know. Do not bother getting the Italeri kit, as the 'fan' in it is unusable.
Some_Kid
02-06-2014, 04:35 PM
If it's any cheaper you could also buy one of the revell 911 slant nose kits and take the engine out of that. It may not be technically correct but it would provide the correct "look" of the engine. With the intercooler it would probably be pretty indistinguishable from anyone looking.
da_ashman
02-06-2014, 05:32 PM
The C1 Models -RWB 993 kit comes with a resin engine top. non turbo though, but has some good detail to it.
www.c1-models.com (http://www.c1-models.com)
www.c1-models.com (http://www.c1-models.com)
drunken monkey
02-07-2014, 04:43 AM
The C1 Models -RWB 993 kit comes with a resin engine top. non turbo though, but has some good detail to it.
that (engine part)is a straight copy of what is found in the Italeri/Revell kits.
edit: ok, with a liiiittle change done to it.
that (engine part)is a straight copy of what is found in the Italeri/Revell kits.
edit: ok, with a liiiittle change done to it.
da_ashman
02-09-2014, 05:27 PM
that (engine part)is a straight copy of what is found in the Italeri/Revell kits.
edit: ok, with a liiiittle change done to it.
Oh ok, didnt know
edit: ok, with a liiiittle change done to it.
Oh ok, didnt know
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