Reverse differential operation
sankar8381
02-02-2014, 12:00 PM
if input is given to wheels and output taken at the shaft coming to the differential. if w1 is the angular velocity of wheel 1 and w2 the angular velocity of wheel 2 .what is the angular velocity of the transmission shaft?
MagicRat
02-02-2014, 01:08 PM
((W1 x W2) / 2) x (gear ratio) = driveshaft speed
EDIT: this formula should be
((W1 + W2) / 2) x (gear ratio) = driveshaft speed
EDIT: this formula should be
((W1 + W2) / 2) x (gear ratio) = driveshaft speed
Black Lotus
02-02-2014, 01:40 PM
Assuming the diff is OPEN, and both wheels are off the ground--
and if the driveshaft has any resistance applied to it (i.e. in gear) the speed of W1 and W2 will be the same, but rotate in opposite directions.
If the driver applies power, and if one wheel on an open diff has traction, and the other wheel has no traction, (or not enough) the wheel with no traction will spin at ABOUT twice the speed that it should.
If it is a limited slip type, like I thing Mr. Rat is talking about, he is correct as well.
I have a Quaife type diff. in one of my cars, and I'm not sure at all what happens there. Only that it almost works well.
and if the driveshaft has any resistance applied to it (i.e. in gear) the speed of W1 and W2 will be the same, but rotate in opposite directions.
If the driver applies power, and if one wheel on an open diff has traction, and the other wheel has no traction, (or not enough) the wheel with no traction will spin at ABOUT twice the speed that it should.
If it is a limited slip type, like I thing Mr. Rat is talking about, he is correct as well.
I have a Quaife type diff. in one of my cars, and I'm not sure at all what happens there. Only that it almost works well.
MagicRat
02-02-2014, 01:58 PM
Assuming the diff is OPEN, and both wheels are off the ground--
and if the driveshaft has any resistance applied to it (i.e. in gear) the speed of W1 and W2 will be the same, but rotate in opposite directions.
If the driver applies power, and if one wheel on an open diff has traction, and the other wheel has no traction, (or not enough) the wheel with no traction will spin at ABOUT twice the speed that it should.
If it is a limited slip type, like I thing Mr. Rat is talking about, he is correct as well.
I have a Quaife type diff. in one of my cars, and I'm not sure at all what happens there. Only that it almost works well.
My little formula is simply a mathematical representation of differential operation and thus the type of diff (open or LSD) is not relevant.
. As you suggest some caveats are required for practical application For example, if the wheels are traveling in opposite directions, the velocity of one wheel must be represented as a negative value. :)
and if the driveshaft has any resistance applied to it (i.e. in gear) the speed of W1 and W2 will be the same, but rotate in opposite directions.
If the driver applies power, and if one wheel on an open diff has traction, and the other wheel has no traction, (or not enough) the wheel with no traction will spin at ABOUT twice the speed that it should.
If it is a limited slip type, like I thing Mr. Rat is talking about, he is correct as well.
I have a Quaife type diff. in one of my cars, and I'm not sure at all what happens there. Only that it almost works well.
My little formula is simply a mathematical representation of differential operation and thus the type of diff (open or LSD) is not relevant.
. As you suggest some caveats are required for practical application For example, if the wheels are traveling in opposite directions, the velocity of one wheel must be represented as a negative value. :)
Black Lotus
02-02-2014, 07:09 PM
. As you suggest some caveats are required for practical application For example, if the wheels are traveling in opposite directions, the velocity of one wheel must be represented as a negative value. :)
So which is positive -- the wheel that is turning clockwise or counter clockwise? ;)
So which is positive -- the wheel that is turning clockwise or counter clockwise? ;)
sankar8381
02-03-2014, 12:56 PM
((W1 x W2) / 2) x (gear ratio) = driveshaft speed
suppose you want to add up the the power produced by 2 shafts which are rotating at different rpms.and transmit the power to the third shaft ,How can we implement this? are u sure your formula is correct.if w1 =100,w2=100;according to you the shaft rpm is gonna be 5000.
suppose you want to add up the the power produced by 2 shafts which are rotating at different rpms.and transmit the power to the third shaft ,How can we implement this? are u sure your formula is correct.if w1 =100,w2=100;according to you the shaft rpm is gonna be 5000.
MagicRat
02-05-2014, 11:41 AM
suppose you want to add up the the power produced by 2 shafts which are rotating at different rpms.and transmit the power to the third shaft ,How can we implement this? are u sure your formula is correct.if w1 =100,w2=100;according to you the shaft rpm is gonna be 5000.
Whoops, the formula should be:
((W1 + W2) / 2) x (gear ratio) = driveshaft speed
Whoops, the formula should be:
((W1 + W2) / 2) x (gear ratio) = driveshaft speed
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