1997 Chev. S10
daviejj
01-02-2014, 04:13 PM
I recently installed a clutch and pressure plate on my 1997 Chev. S10. Now I can't get the clutch to release enough to get it in gear. Sometime the clutch will release about one half inch from the bottom, but I cannot get the 5 speed shifter to go in first gear. Can anyone help?
Many thanks,
Ron
Many thanks,
Ron
rhandwor
01-02-2014, 06:24 PM
I recently installed a clutch and pressure plate on my 1997 Chev. S10. Now I can't get the clutch to release enough to get it in gear. Sometime the clutch will release about one half inch from the bottom, but I cannot get the 5 speed shifter to go in first gear. Can anyone help?
Many thanks,
Ron
Does this unit have a hydraulic clutch? The slave cylinder may be bad otherwise the clutch may need adjusted.
Many thanks,
Ron
Does this unit have a hydraulic clutch? The slave cylinder may be bad otherwise the clutch may need adjusted.
daviejj
01-02-2014, 08:15 PM
How do I tell what type of clutch this is and also the slave cylinder?
Thanks for your reply.
Ron
Thanks for your reply.
Ron
rhandwor
01-03-2014, 07:44 AM
How do I tell what type of clutch this is and also the slave cylinder?
Thanks for your reply.
Ron
http://www.rockauto.com/
Type in your year model and engine size. Search slave cylinder and clutch master cylinder. Look at the parts as you pulled the transmission look at the parts. You will be able to determine if you saw the parts. They looked very close to Ford Ranger's unit.
If your going to do it yourself purchase the prebled unit as they are very diffuclt to bleed.
You could go to a parts store and look at a unit if unsure from the pictures.
From the picture I would say you will have to drop or slide back the transmission to install the unit.
Thanks for your reply.
Ron
http://www.rockauto.com/
Type in your year model and engine size. Search slave cylinder and clutch master cylinder. Look at the parts as you pulled the transmission look at the parts. You will be able to determine if you saw the parts. They looked very close to Ford Ranger's unit.
If your going to do it yourself purchase the prebled unit as they are very diffuclt to bleed.
You could go to a parts store and look at a unit if unsure from the pictures.
From the picture I would say you will have to drop or slide back the transmission to install the unit.
MT-2500
01-03-2014, 10:16 AM
How do I tell what type of clutch this is and also the slave cylinder?
Thanks for your reply.
Ron
Does it have a full clutch pedal?
Or how far down before you feel it get solid?
Usually clutch release problems are slay cylinder has air in it and needs bleeding.
Have you tried bleeding it?
Was the slay cylinder replaced with clutch plate?
What was the problem with old clutch?
Thanks for your reply.
Ron
Does it have a full clutch pedal?
Or how far down before you feel it get solid?
Usually clutch release problems are slay cylinder has air in it and needs bleeding.
Have you tried bleeding it?
Was the slay cylinder replaced with clutch plate?
What was the problem with old clutch?
rhandwor
01-03-2014, 10:30 AM
Does it have a full clutch pedal?
Or how far down before you feel it get solid?
Usually clutch release problems are slay cylinder has air in it and needs bleeding.
Have you tried bleeding it?
Was the slay cylinder replaced with clutch plate?
What was the problem with old clutch?
I was hoping he would reply back that he drained it when he replaced the clutch. At least he could refill with brake fluid and bleed it and be good to go.
Or how far down before you feel it get solid?
Usually clutch release problems are slay cylinder has air in it and needs bleeding.
Have you tried bleeding it?
Was the slay cylinder replaced with clutch plate?
What was the problem with old clutch?
I was hoping he would reply back that he drained it when he replaced the clutch. At least he could refill with brake fluid and bleed it and be good to go.
daviejj
01-03-2014, 11:15 AM
[quote=rhandwor;7098998]I was hoping he would reply back that he drained it when he replaced the clutch. At least he could refill with brake fluid and bleed it and be good to go.[/
How is the best way to bleed the cylinder. Someone advised that it was difficult to bleed.
Thanks for your reply.
Ron
How is the best way to bleed the cylinder. Someone advised that it was difficult to bleed.
Thanks for your reply.
Ron
daviejj
01-03-2014, 11:18 AM
I installed another engine and wanted to replace the clutch and pressure plate as it had lot's of miles on it.
rhandwor
01-03-2014, 11:44 AM
[quote=rhandwor;7098998]I was hoping he would reply back that he drained it when he replaced the clutch. At least he could refill with brake fluid and bleed it and be good to go.[/
How is the best way to bleed the cylinder. Someone advised that it was difficult to bleed.
Thanks for your reply.
Ron
Put the truck on 4 jack stands fill the master with brake fluid. Have someone push on the clutch pumping trying to get some resistance At this point open the bleed screw allowing fluid to come out. Close the bleed screw and pump again until you get resistance again open the bleed screw. Its probably going to take 1/2 hour or more. Stop when you have proper petal feel.
I had a friend who operated a body shop and he filled up the master cylinder on a fleet of S-10 he had a contract with a pest control company. He filled the master cylinder and left the bleed screw open. About 4 hrs. later it would start dripping and at this point he closed this screw and refilled the master cylinder. He said it took him 4hrs. I never tried it but I noticed flat pans under a truck on jack stands and one started dripping one of his men closed the screw and a short while later another man
closed another one. I never tried this but if by your self you can try this. You only have one bleed screw.
How is the best way to bleed the cylinder. Someone advised that it was difficult to bleed.
Thanks for your reply.
Ron
Put the truck on 4 jack stands fill the master with brake fluid. Have someone push on the clutch pumping trying to get some resistance At this point open the bleed screw allowing fluid to come out. Close the bleed screw and pump again until you get resistance again open the bleed screw. Its probably going to take 1/2 hour or more. Stop when you have proper petal feel.
I had a friend who operated a body shop and he filled up the master cylinder on a fleet of S-10 he had a contract with a pest control company. He filled the master cylinder and left the bleed screw open. About 4 hrs. later it would start dripping and at this point he closed this screw and refilled the master cylinder. He said it took him 4hrs. I never tried it but I noticed flat pans under a truck on jack stands and one started dripping one of his men closed the screw and a short while later another man
closed another one. I never tried this but if by your self you can try this. You only have one bleed screw.
daviejj
01-03-2014, 12:38 PM
Many thanks for the info. I shall try this...Have a great day.
Ron
Ron
DeltaP
01-05-2014, 12:49 AM
No tryin to be a smartass but I hope that disc isnt in backwards.
daviejj
01-06-2014, 05:53 PM
No tryin to be a smartass but I hope that disc isnt in backwards.
My shade mechanic insist it is in correct, however I cannot get a full clutch, only one half inch from the bottom. Seems as though the slave cylinder will not bleed. How long should you try to bleed?
Ron
My shade mechanic insist it is in correct, however I cannot get a full clutch, only one half inch from the bottom. Seems as though the slave cylinder will not bleed. How long should you try to bleed?
Ron
rhandwor
01-06-2014, 06:16 PM
My shade mechanic insist it is in correct, however I cannot get a full clutch, only one half inch from the bottom. Seems as though the slave cylinder will not bleed. How long should you try to bleed?
Ron
Are you getting fluid out when you pump. http//www.ebay.com/
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I don't think your pumping fast enough. I work alone and use a vacuum bleeder any more. I used to use a pump oil can only used for brake fluid hold the diameter of the hose over the hole and pump and had someone shut off the bleed screw when brake fluid came out. I'm retired at this time and mostly do my own work.
Try 1/2 to 1 hr depending on how fast you pump. You can try a gravity bleed lay a clean rag over the master cylinder after its filled. Allow up to 4 hrs. put a clean pan under an open bleeder. The slave maybe bad what was the problem before changing the clutch.
Ron
Are you getting fluid out when you pump. http//www.ebay.com/
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I don't think your pumping fast enough. I work alone and use a vacuum bleeder any more. I used to use a pump oil can only used for brake fluid hold the diameter of the hose over the hole and pump and had someone shut off the bleed screw when brake fluid came out. I'm retired at this time and mostly do my own work.
Try 1/2 to 1 hr depending on how fast you pump. You can try a gravity bleed lay a clean rag over the master cylinder after its filled. Allow up to 4 hrs. put a clean pan under an open bleeder. The slave maybe bad what was the problem before changing the clutch.
daviejj
01-06-2014, 06:57 PM
Are you getting fluid out when you pump. http//www.ebay.com/
Search item 150907892536
I don't think your pumping fast enough. I work alone and use a vacuum bleeder any more. I used to use a pump oil can only used for brake fluid hold the diameter of the hose over the hole and pump and had someone shut off the bleed screw when brake fluid came out. I'm retired at this time and mostly do my own work.
Try 1/2 to 1 hr depending on how fast you pump. You can try a gravity bleed lay a clean rag over the master cylinder after its filled. Allow up to 4 hrs. put a clean pan under an open bleeder. The slave maybe bad what was the problem before changing the clutch.
Should I leave the rubber cap off the place that you put brake fluid in as I pump the clutch, or does that matter? I do have fluid coming out of the bleeder valve as you pump.
Reason for new clutch. I replaced the engine and decided to replace the clutch and p. plate, no slave cylinder. After replacing the engine, I had no oil pressure. Had to pull engine and put in new oil pump. Clutch was working ok before that. I tried pumping fast a few days ago, but only for about 3 minutes. Could the slave cylinder just go bad?
Search item 150907892536
I don't think your pumping fast enough. I work alone and use a vacuum bleeder any more. I used to use a pump oil can only used for brake fluid hold the diameter of the hose over the hole and pump and had someone shut off the bleed screw when brake fluid came out. I'm retired at this time and mostly do my own work.
Try 1/2 to 1 hr depending on how fast you pump. You can try a gravity bleed lay a clean rag over the master cylinder after its filled. Allow up to 4 hrs. put a clean pan under an open bleeder. The slave maybe bad what was the problem before changing the clutch.
Should I leave the rubber cap off the place that you put brake fluid in as I pump the clutch, or does that matter? I do have fluid coming out of the bleeder valve as you pump.
Reason for new clutch. I replaced the engine and decided to replace the clutch and p. plate, no slave cylinder. After replacing the engine, I had no oil pressure. Had to pull engine and put in new oil pump. Clutch was working ok before that. I tried pumping fast a few days ago, but only for about 3 minutes. Could the slave cylinder just go bad?
rhandwor
01-06-2014, 07:55 PM
Should I leave the rubber cap off the place that you put brake fluid in as I pump the clutch, or does that matter? I do have fluid coming out of the bleeder valve as you pump.
Reason for new clutch. I replaced the engine and decided to replace the clutch and p. plate, no slave cylinder. After replacing the engine, I had no oil pressure. Had to pull engine and put in new oil pump. Clutch was working ok before that. I tried pumping fast a few days ago, but only for about 3 minutes. Could the slave cylinder just go bad?
It could but I think you need to keep bleeding pump until you get some pedal. Open bleeder close and try again it takes two people.
Reason for new clutch. I replaced the engine and decided to replace the clutch and p. plate, no slave cylinder. After replacing the engine, I had no oil pressure. Had to pull engine and put in new oil pump. Clutch was working ok before that. I tried pumping fast a few days ago, but only for about 3 minutes. Could the slave cylinder just go bad?
It could but I think you need to keep bleeding pump until you get some pedal. Open bleeder close and try again it takes two people.
daviejj
01-07-2014, 06:21 PM
It could but I think you need to keep bleeding pump until you get some pedal. Open bleeder close and try again it takes two people.
I opened the bleeder valve today, got a steady flow until the reservoir drained after about 5 minutes. I was working alone. I suppose I need someone to help me bleed now. Do I need to pump the clutch and hold down, or pump only once and hold?
Thanks for all your help.
Ron
I opened the bleeder valve today, got a steady flow until the reservoir drained after about 5 minutes. I was working alone. I suppose I need someone to help me bleed now. Do I need to pump the clutch and hold down, or pump only once and hold?
Thanks for all your help.
Ron
rhandwor
01-07-2014, 06:32 PM
I opened the bleeder valve today, got a steady flow until the reservoir drained after about 5 minutes. I was working alone. I suppose I need someone to help me bleed now. Do I need to pump the clutch and hold down, or pump only once and hold?
Thanks for all your help.
Ron
Pump the clutch and hold down. You will notice air coming out in spurts. Stop when you get a good stream. At this point fill up the system and check for a full pedal.
Thanks for all your help.
Ron
Pump the clutch and hold down. You will notice air coming out in spurts. Stop when you get a good stream. At this point fill up the system and check for a full pedal.
daviejj
01-07-2014, 06:40 PM
Thanks again.
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