the new gto
speeder94
06-18-2003, 10:18 PM
word is it has a base corvette engine 350hp special exhaust 0-60 under 6seconds comes out fall 2003.1\4 dont know. i guess its somewhere high 13 or mid 13s
YogsVR4
06-18-2003, 10:46 PM
Yeah - from the sounds of it, it'll be a solid 13 second car. It'll nice to see it on some showrooms so I can take it out for a test drive.
tman
06-19-2003, 10:01 PM
Especially with GM's 24 hour test drive!
*mmmm, cream interiors.*
*mmmm, cream interiors.*
DeViL
06-19-2003, 10:22 PM
GTO
5.7L V8 LS1
340hp
360lbs of torque
So it makes 10 less hp then a C5 and 10 more lbs of torque than it.
It's also dual exhaust though it may not look like it coming out the rear end.
5.7L V8 LS1
340hp
360lbs of torque
So it makes 10 less hp then a C5 and 10 more lbs of torque than it.
It's also dual exhaust though it may not look like it coming out the rear end.
tman
06-20-2003, 01:58 AM
Wrong, GTO to have 350hp
http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayServlet?target=http://image.emerald.gm.com/gmnews/viewpressreleasedetail.do?domain=2&docid=818
DETROIT - With its high-output V8 engine, rear-wheel-drive configuration, high-torque off-the-line acceleration and great reserves of passing power, the all-new 2004 Pontiac GTO more than delivers the legendary power and performance of its original namesake.
The new GTO will produce 350 horsepower at 5200 rpm and 365 ft.-lb. of torque at 4000 rpm - power ratings that are the result of contemporary engineering, yet true to the GTO heritage. In addition, the GTO is expected to achieve impressive performance times of 0 to 60 MPH in less than 5.5 seconds and a 1/4 mile run in under 14 seconds.
"There's no doubt that outstanding power and launch feel was the priority for this vehicle right from the start," explained Dave Himmelberg, GTO program engineering manager. "The original GTO was the standard bearer of its class in terms of power - and that's exactly the standard we set for ourselves when developing the modern version.
"Anyone who drives this vehicle is going to know it's a GTO from the moment they turn the key and press that accelerator and hear that throaty Pontiac exhaust note - this car will definitely push you back in your seat."
GM engineers pulled out all the stops to create the GTO's exhilarating power and off-line performance, taking an engine already known to driving enthusiasts for its superb performance and reliability / durability -- GM's award-winning 5.7-liter Gen III LS1 V8 -- and refining it for substantially more power and the low-end torque Pontiac's have always been known for, with special exhaust tuning to emphasize its performance-oriented character.
The LS1 V8 provides the GTO with successful, racetrack-proven performance as well as smooth, quiet operation. Its lightweight all-aluminum construction, including cylinder heads and blocks, provide an excellent power-to-weight ratio.
To achieve outstanding launch capability, GM engineers adopted the LS1 V8's high-lift camshaft (increasing low-end torque, without giving up power). They then took advantage of the engine's torque on the low end and changed the transmission gear ratios and final drive ratio for the kind of launch performance one would expect from a GTO.
In addition to off-the-line launch feel, the higher lift camshaft also boosts torque over most of the rev range by an average 5 percent thereby ensuring great reserves of power for sudden acceleration and freeway passing. Compared to the original camshaft, the new configuration provides 20 ft-lb more torque from idle up to 4400 rpm.
The horsepower increase over the original engine setup results from improved airflow into and through the engine and the exhaust system. This includes:
Increasing fresh airflow through the air cleaner with a larger 100mm diameter inlet pipe;
Reducing exhaust backpressure to a very low static pressure of (40 kPa) with a slightly larger diameter size dual pipe system; and,
An all-new true dual exhaust system. It includes dual catalytic converters, one on each exhaust bank; two small resonators, one between each catalytic converter and the mufflers; and pipes-only running from each muffler all the way to the dual chrome exhaust tips which are packaged next to each other at the rear fascia. The two exhaust gas paths are totally independent all the way from the exhaust banks to the dual chrome tips, which are located next to each other. The resonator / pipe design is to achieve the desired exhaust notes.
On the GTO, the LS1 can be mated to GM's most aggressively geared (M12) six-speed manual transmission. The M12 provides quick, smooth, precise shifts; increases torque multiplication in almost every forward gear for quicker acceleration; and delivers outstanding high-speed performance by providing more usable torque at higher speeds.
The precisely controlled, smooth shifting, electronically controlled Hydra-Matic 4L60-E transmission is standard. Used in all GM light-duty applications, it has a long history of customer-pleasing performance and dependability. In the GTO, its electronic controls are calibrated to provide the performance of a super-sport vehicle.
Both the manual and automatic transmissions use the same low-geared 3.46 final drive axle ratio to maximize off-line acceleration. The GTO also offers a conventional limited slip differential, which increases available traction by using both rear wheels to transfer power when one loses traction.
The 2004 Pontiac GTO is a modern interpretation of the classic performance coupe, emphasizing contemporary styling and total performance. It will be available in Pontiac dealer showrooms before the end of 2003 in limited numbers. Pricing has not yet been finalized but is expected to be less than $35K.
0 to 60 MPH in less than 5.5 seconds and a 1/4 mile run in under 14 seconds.
That is the car, no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayServlet?target=http://image.emerald.gm.com/gmnews/viewpressreleasedetail.do?domain=2&docid=818
DETROIT - With its high-output V8 engine, rear-wheel-drive configuration, high-torque off-the-line acceleration and great reserves of passing power, the all-new 2004 Pontiac GTO more than delivers the legendary power and performance of its original namesake.
The new GTO will produce 350 horsepower at 5200 rpm and 365 ft.-lb. of torque at 4000 rpm - power ratings that are the result of contemporary engineering, yet true to the GTO heritage. In addition, the GTO is expected to achieve impressive performance times of 0 to 60 MPH in less than 5.5 seconds and a 1/4 mile run in under 14 seconds.
"There's no doubt that outstanding power and launch feel was the priority for this vehicle right from the start," explained Dave Himmelberg, GTO program engineering manager. "The original GTO was the standard bearer of its class in terms of power - and that's exactly the standard we set for ourselves when developing the modern version.
"Anyone who drives this vehicle is going to know it's a GTO from the moment they turn the key and press that accelerator and hear that throaty Pontiac exhaust note - this car will definitely push you back in your seat."
GM engineers pulled out all the stops to create the GTO's exhilarating power and off-line performance, taking an engine already known to driving enthusiasts for its superb performance and reliability / durability -- GM's award-winning 5.7-liter Gen III LS1 V8 -- and refining it for substantially more power and the low-end torque Pontiac's have always been known for, with special exhaust tuning to emphasize its performance-oriented character.
The LS1 V8 provides the GTO with successful, racetrack-proven performance as well as smooth, quiet operation. Its lightweight all-aluminum construction, including cylinder heads and blocks, provide an excellent power-to-weight ratio.
To achieve outstanding launch capability, GM engineers adopted the LS1 V8's high-lift camshaft (increasing low-end torque, without giving up power). They then took advantage of the engine's torque on the low end and changed the transmission gear ratios and final drive ratio for the kind of launch performance one would expect from a GTO.
In addition to off-the-line launch feel, the higher lift camshaft also boosts torque over most of the rev range by an average 5 percent thereby ensuring great reserves of power for sudden acceleration and freeway passing. Compared to the original camshaft, the new configuration provides 20 ft-lb more torque from idle up to 4400 rpm.
The horsepower increase over the original engine setup results from improved airflow into and through the engine and the exhaust system. This includes:
Increasing fresh airflow through the air cleaner with a larger 100mm diameter inlet pipe;
Reducing exhaust backpressure to a very low static pressure of (40 kPa) with a slightly larger diameter size dual pipe system; and,
An all-new true dual exhaust system. It includes dual catalytic converters, one on each exhaust bank; two small resonators, one between each catalytic converter and the mufflers; and pipes-only running from each muffler all the way to the dual chrome exhaust tips which are packaged next to each other at the rear fascia. The two exhaust gas paths are totally independent all the way from the exhaust banks to the dual chrome tips, which are located next to each other. The resonator / pipe design is to achieve the desired exhaust notes.
On the GTO, the LS1 can be mated to GM's most aggressively geared (M12) six-speed manual transmission. The M12 provides quick, smooth, precise shifts; increases torque multiplication in almost every forward gear for quicker acceleration; and delivers outstanding high-speed performance by providing more usable torque at higher speeds.
The precisely controlled, smooth shifting, electronically controlled Hydra-Matic 4L60-E transmission is standard. Used in all GM light-duty applications, it has a long history of customer-pleasing performance and dependability. In the GTO, its electronic controls are calibrated to provide the performance of a super-sport vehicle.
Both the manual and automatic transmissions use the same low-geared 3.46 final drive axle ratio to maximize off-line acceleration. The GTO also offers a conventional limited slip differential, which increases available traction by using both rear wheels to transfer power when one loses traction.
The 2004 Pontiac GTO is a modern interpretation of the classic performance coupe, emphasizing contemporary styling and total performance. It will be available in Pontiac dealer showrooms before the end of 2003 in limited numbers. Pricing has not yet been finalized but is expected to be less than $35K.
0 to 60 MPH in less than 5.5 seconds and a 1/4 mile run in under 14 seconds.
That is the car, no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
DeViL
06-20-2003, 08:56 AM
Good so they decided to up the hp some at the last second. I read it's previous stats from a Pontiac booklet they sent me. Shows all about it and the history of the previous GTO. So what do they call this, a 2nd Gen?
gtojack
06-20-2003, 11:26 AM
No doubt it will be a great car. But as a GTO owner, I'll have a hard time calling it a GTO - mainly from a styling perspective.
Pontiac should've put in a more interesting grill (stretched out a bit like a 65-67) and done something intersting with over/under lighting. Otherwise it looks just a little too GrandAm/Accord-ish.
Also, no GTO is right without some form of hood scoops!!
I've been to a site (I'll see if I can find it again - likely something linked to one of the GTO sites - e.g. www.performanceyears.com) which had some freelance artist drawing of what they would have liked GM to do with the GTO styling... some are very, very intersting!
At any rate, it's destined to be a great car (based on the fact that it is in essence the rock solid and very fast Holden Monaro from Aussie) with a great potential for looking cool down the raod when they go for a re-style.
Pontiac should've put in a more interesting grill (stretched out a bit like a 65-67) and done something intersting with over/under lighting. Otherwise it looks just a little too GrandAm/Accord-ish.
Also, no GTO is right without some form of hood scoops!!
I've been to a site (I'll see if I can find it again - likely something linked to one of the GTO sites - e.g. www.performanceyears.com) which had some freelance artist drawing of what they would have liked GM to do with the GTO styling... some are very, very intersting!
At any rate, it's destined to be a great car (based on the fact that it is in essence the rock solid and very fast Holden Monaro from Aussie) with a great potential for looking cool down the raod when they go for a re-style.
DeViL
06-20-2003, 01:50 PM
Damn your right this must have just been changed. Take a look at Pontiac.com under GTO. They have pics of a black one on there now and it says 350 hp, 365 lbs of torque.
So this car now has as much horsepower as a Corvette and more torque then it. Probably weighs around the same as the 03 Cobra though.
Also, no GTO is right without some form of hood scoops!!
If you look at this GTO and look at the GTO's past 67 when they were more of a fastback, you can see similarities between those and this one. I think that is what they were going for, they simply ignored the 65-67 style which a lot of people consider the best look.
I gurantee you one way or another you will find the new GTO's with hood scoops. Either SLP will make a special edition like they did with the Firebird (Firehawk), or Pontiac will do it later by adding Ram Air as an option. Hopefully they will change the pipes too I want a real looking dual exhaust not it just going to one side.
So this car now has as much horsepower as a Corvette and more torque then it. Probably weighs around the same as the 03 Cobra though.
Also, no GTO is right without some form of hood scoops!!
If you look at this GTO and look at the GTO's past 67 when they were more of a fastback, you can see similarities between those and this one. I think that is what they were going for, they simply ignored the 65-67 style which a lot of people consider the best look.
I gurantee you one way or another you will find the new GTO's with hood scoops. Either SLP will make a special edition like they did with the Firebird (Firehawk), or Pontiac will do it later by adding Ram Air as an option. Hopefully they will change the pipes too I want a real looking dual exhaust not it just going to one side.
speeder94
06-21-2003, 10:43 PM
word is it has the engine of the normal c5 corvette and i think they said it will be having slp optionins hey devil is that little dragster s10 yours?
dolla_bill0913
06-25-2003, 07:16 PM
2004 Pontiac GTO to offer 350 horsepower
The new Pontiac GTO will produce 350 horsepower at 5200 rpm and 365 ft.-lb. of torque at 4000 rpm, says General Motors.
GM engineers took the 5.7 litre Gen III LS1 V8 engine and refined it for substantially more power and low-end torque, with special exhaust tuning to emphasize its performance-oriented character. GM engineers adopted the LS1 V8's high-lift camshaft, increasing low-end torque, without giving up power. They then took advantage of the engine's torque on the low end and changed the transmission gear ratios and final drive ratio.
In addition to off-the-line launch feel, the higher lift camshaft also boosts torque over most of the rev range by an average 5 percent thereby ensuring great reserves of power for sudden acceleration and freeway passing. Compared to the original camshaft, the new configuration provides 20 ft-lb more torque from idle up to 4400 rpm.
On the GTO, the LS1 can be mated to GM's most aggressively geared (M12) six-speed manual transmission. The electronically controlled Hydra-Matic 4L60-E transmission is standard. Both the manual and automatic transmissions use the same low-geared 3.46 final drive axle ratio to maximize off-line acceleration. The GTO also offers a conventional limited slip differential.
The 2004 Pontiac GTO will be available in Pontiac dealer showrooms before the end of 2003 in limited numbers. Pricing has not yet been finalized but is expected to be less than $35,000.
The new Pontiac GTO will produce 350 horsepower at 5200 rpm and 365 ft.-lb. of torque at 4000 rpm, says General Motors.
GM engineers took the 5.7 litre Gen III LS1 V8 engine and refined it for substantially more power and low-end torque, with special exhaust tuning to emphasize its performance-oriented character. GM engineers adopted the LS1 V8's high-lift camshaft, increasing low-end torque, without giving up power. They then took advantage of the engine's torque on the low end and changed the transmission gear ratios and final drive ratio.
In addition to off-the-line launch feel, the higher lift camshaft also boosts torque over most of the rev range by an average 5 percent thereby ensuring great reserves of power for sudden acceleration and freeway passing. Compared to the original camshaft, the new configuration provides 20 ft-lb more torque from idle up to 4400 rpm.
On the GTO, the LS1 can be mated to GM's most aggressively geared (M12) six-speed manual transmission. The electronically controlled Hydra-Matic 4L60-E transmission is standard. Both the manual and automatic transmissions use the same low-geared 3.46 final drive axle ratio to maximize off-line acceleration. The GTO also offers a conventional limited slip differential.
The 2004 Pontiac GTO will be available in Pontiac dealer showrooms before the end of 2003 in limited numbers. Pricing has not yet been finalized but is expected to be less than $35,000.
SuPeRcAr_MaN
06-25-2003, 08:37 PM
Good stuff Dolla... Thanks.
1320B4U
06-25-2003, 08:46 PM
Does the car have usable interior space unlike the f-bodys? What kind of suspension does it have? How cheezy is the dash setup?
dolla_bill0913
06-30-2003, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by 1320B4U
Does the car have usable interior space unlike the f-bodys? What kind of suspension does it have? How cheezy is the dash setup? It is said to have pleanty of room for four full sized adults, but head room in the back seats is always tight for taller people, dont forget this car is a coupe and what coupe has a lot of interior room? As for the Suspension > Front - Independent MacPherson strut and Rear - Independent control link. Also a couple of pics of the car, including the dash. The only thing so far I dont like is the exhaust, where are the duals?
http://www.modernracer.com/intthumbnails/pontiacgtointthum1.jpg http://www.modernracer.com/intthumbnails/pontiacgtointthum2.jpg http://www.modernracer.com/thumbnails/pontiacgtoside1thum.jpg
http://www.modernracer.com/images/pontiacgtoback2.html http://www.modernracer.com/thumbnails/pontiacgtofront2thum.jpg http://www.modernracer.com/thumbnails/pontiacgtoback1thum.jpg http://www.modernracer.com/thumbnails/pontiacgtofront1thum.jpg
Does the car have usable interior space unlike the f-bodys? What kind of suspension does it have? How cheezy is the dash setup? It is said to have pleanty of room for four full sized adults, but head room in the back seats is always tight for taller people, dont forget this car is a coupe and what coupe has a lot of interior room? As for the Suspension > Front - Independent MacPherson strut and Rear - Independent control link. Also a couple of pics of the car, including the dash. The only thing so far I dont like is the exhaust, where are the duals?
http://www.modernracer.com/intthumbnails/pontiacgtointthum1.jpg http://www.modernracer.com/intthumbnails/pontiacgtointthum2.jpg http://www.modernracer.com/thumbnails/pontiacgtoside1thum.jpg
http://www.modernracer.com/images/pontiacgtoback2.html http://www.modernracer.com/thumbnails/pontiacgtofront2thum.jpg http://www.modernracer.com/thumbnails/pontiacgtoback1thum.jpg http://www.modernracer.com/thumbnails/pontiacgtofront1thum.jpg
DeViL
06-30-2003, 10:10 PM
The interior is VERY nice, a little too classy I think. Like Holdens, the GTO's guages match the color of the exterior. You can also get leather seats the same color as the car as well.
And yes thats my truck in the sig :sunglasse
And yes thats my truck in the sig :sunglasse
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