Buying Intake etc. for a swapped engine
moleodonuts
06-17-2003, 01:58 PM
So if I swap an engine into my little POS civic, do I buy a civic intake or one for the swapped engine? Are there any other quircky things with swaps and the parts you buy for them... I guess intake just gets me b.c I'll have a diff intake manifold, but I'll need the twists and turns for my stock engine compartment on the cold air wont I?
Thanks:confused: :confused:
Thanks:confused: :confused:
liquid8
06-17-2003, 02:48 PM
well i heard that you use the del sol vtec one for a b16 civic. and i think it was b16ej that said that you would use the gsr one for a b18c1 civic.
moleodonuts
06-17-2003, 03:21 PM
ok, so you pretty much go with what goes for the engine and it'll work out that the pipe twists and turns to the correct place?
crxlvr
06-17-2003, 05:02 PM
no, buy the intake for the car, not the engine, 99% of aftermarket intakes have big enough piping to fit over the swapped motor's TB anyway. buy it for your car, not for the motor.
B16EJ1
06-17-2003, 05:27 PM
Sorry, you don't buy for the car. You buy for the engine. You cant use a SOHC intake in the GSR manifold because of the different design of the GSR intake manifold. You should'nt use SOHC CAI on DOHC because the piping is smaller and the flow is still too restricted. I have had both the B16 and D16 AEM CAI and the piping difference is significant. Yes the hose will fit with some effort but the piping diameter is still restrictive. When it come to aftermarket parts for a hybrid you buy engine specific bolt ons and chassis specific exhaust (may need some modifications). A SOHC header will not fit a DOHC.
moleodonuts
06-17-2003, 05:46 PM
So I guess I gotta go back my question of does the pipe for the engine's CAI still fit into my engine bay ok and get down and get me cold air? or is this just going to take a bit more effort than before?
crxlvr
06-17-2003, 06:21 PM
i just think it be easier to modify the part of the intake that attaches to the throttle body, then have to worry bout wether or not the down part of the intake will line up right or even close to the opening in the car.
moleodonuts
06-17-2003, 06:24 PM
There's gotta be some peeps out there with swaps that can just answer this with a bonified answer....
B16EJ1
06-17-2003, 08:42 PM
I already did. For the GSR swap get the GSR one. The Filter placement will be in the same place as it is on the GSR, in front and below the tranny. For the B16 swap, get the Del sol VTEC or the 99-00 Si. The filter placement in regards to the engine bay is the same, in the hole next to the radiator. For an H22 swap........... I don't know.
moleodonuts
06-17-2003, 08:45 PM
Haha that answers that, thanks man:cool:
crxlvr
06-17-2003, 08:51 PM
well when i swapped my d15 for my b16 i just used the same intake, and it fits fine.
moleodonuts
06-17-2003, 08:55 PM
....so what you guys are reaaaaallly saying is it doesn't matter that much one way or another? perhaps I'll get better horsepower oneway perhaps the other way is easier to install... wish some other peeps would join this thread and put their input in too :eek7:
B16EJ1
06-18-2003, 09:12 AM
As I've said before, you can still use the original intake from your SOHC. It will fit but the piping diameter is not sufficient for even stock performance. You are actually hindering the performance but yes, it will fit. That's about all you can scavenge from the original motor though.
moleodonuts
06-18-2003, 10:25 AM
Aight how about this for reversing the question: what if I buy the intake for my planned swap now so that I can get an intake right now, but not have to buy a brannew one when I swap? Is my perf going to be ok? is it worth it?
B16EJ1
06-18-2003, 10:40 AM
I'd say just wait. It sounds like the swap isn't going to be for a while so just save the cash for the swap. I modded the shit out of my single cam and found out I still wasn't happy so I swapped and sold all the shit that was on the engine with it. Money down the drain.
moleodonuts
06-18-2003, 11:05 AM
I'm saying buy the stuff for the swap... like fit an integra CAI onto my engine so that I have an intake and then it will be ready to throw onto the swapped b18 when I get it b.c its the CAI for that engine (EDIT: obviously this will onyl work for the CAI)
B16EJ1
06-18-2003, 01:24 PM
The only problem with that would be if you were going to buy a GSR motor because then you would not be able to fit the intake manifold end of the intake on your manifold. The B16A CAI would work fine though.
moleodonuts
06-18-2003, 01:37 PM
I'm actually doing a b18b, but I'm assuming its the same... is there any way I could just go to the hardware store and buy a diff nossle for the intake? I'm really keen to get this stupid PVC piping outta my engine compartment
neunan
06-19-2003, 12:57 AM
hey, hey. i helped put that pos PVC in there! lol. yea from what i learned back when i was reading up on h22 swaps you buy the intake for the engine and the exhaust for the body. if you buy the intake for the body it will probably still work, but it wont give as much power (diff intake manifolds, like you said). and i think you get the header for the body as well...
B16EJ1
06-19-2003, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by neunan
and i think you get the header for the body as well...
Nope. Read my posts.
and i think you get the header for the body as well...
Nope. Read my posts.
neunan
06-19-2003, 02:17 AM
"A SOHC header will not fit a DOHC." i read it just fine - i was spouting out what i remembered reading. im not saying its right, as i havent done a swap... so now im just asking for my own benefit: what does the cam(s) have to do with the header? i figured that the header was considered part of the exhaust system. ::shrug::
moleodonuts
06-19-2003, 10:06 AM
The head just makes sense it would go with the engine... it doesn't really interact with the body much... I've heard you may have to do some custom work between the header and the cat-back to get it all to meld correctly...
BTW: You lie, you had didn't do didly with this intake:mad: All my intakes have been Mike-Dustin Danger Duo :bigthumb:
BTW: You lie, you had didn't do didly with this intake:mad: All my intakes have been Mike-Dustin Danger Duo :bigthumb:
moleodonuts
06-19-2003, 10:07 AM
BTW II: WOOT! I'm an "AF Member" not "AF Newb" now
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