Anyone done a 180SX nose on an S13 Silvia?
BOOSTD
06-17-2003, 10:26 AM
I was wondering if anyone had done this conversion. I might be the first to try it. If someone has, was it hard??
Suislide
06-17-2003, 11:04 AM
a One-Via!!! i say do it. that would be awesome. and then you could make a Sileighty with the other parts. you are a very smart man...i might have to try this in the future.
not sure about how hard it would be, but the doors on a 180SX are the same shape as the door on an S13, so if you cut the body at the backs of the front fenders, they should line up good.
not sure about how hard it would be, but the doors on a 180SX are the same shape as the door on an S13, so if you cut the body at the backs of the front fenders, they should line up good.
BOOSTD
06-17-2003, 11:11 AM
I am hoping it will all line up without too much trouble. I will post pics as soon as I start. I have just ordered a Sileighty from HLJ too so that will be fun. The Sileighty will have a race wing and will be lowered with Advan RG's. Pics soon.
T\/\/iN-Tu|2Bo
06-17-2003, 11:54 AM
Sounds nice:bigthumb: can't wait to see some pics!
RyanGiorgio
06-17-2003, 12:12 PM
Your gonna need a 180SX hood too. Or you could cut the S13 hood where the lights should be. I think you should definately go for it.
ZoomZoomMX-5
06-17-2003, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by S13_Iketani
a One-Via!!! i say do it. that would be awesome. and then you could make a Sileighty with the other parts. you are a very smart man...i might have to try this in the future.
not sure about how hard it would be, but the doors on a 180SX are the same shape as the door on an S13, so if you cut the body at the backs of the front fenders, they should line up good.
It does work like that, I did the conversion years ago, cut the whole front end off at the leading edge of the doors. I'll dig it out for photos later. It's missing a mirror...:frown:
a One-Via!!! i say do it. that would be awesome. and then you could make a Sileighty with the other parts. you are a very smart man...i might have to try this in the future.
not sure about how hard it would be, but the doors on a 180SX are the same shape as the door on an S13, so if you cut the body at the backs of the front fenders, they should line up good.
It does work like that, I did the conversion years ago, cut the whole front end off at the leading edge of the doors. I'll dig it out for photos later. It's missing a mirror...:frown:
Suislide
06-17-2003, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by ZoomZoomMX-5
It does work like that, I did the conversion years ago, cut the whole front end off at the leading edge of the doors. I'll dig it out for photos later. It's missing a mirror...:frown:
good to hear!
if i find another 180SX kit (hard to find around here), then i'll probably get an S13 kit too and make a One-Via and another Sileighty, just swap front ends! :bigthumb:
hey BOOSTD - i'm putting RG's on my Sileighty! way to bite my style! lol jk. :biggrin2:
It does work like that, I did the conversion years ago, cut the whole front end off at the leading edge of the doors. I'll dig it out for photos later. It's missing a mirror...:frown:
good to hear!
if i find another 180SX kit (hard to find around here), then i'll probably get an S13 kit too and make a One-Via and another Sileighty, just swap front ends! :bigthumb:
hey BOOSTD - i'm putting RG's on my Sileighty! way to bite my style! lol jk. :biggrin2:
Jay!
06-17-2003, 01:31 PM
Of the four S13 front/rear combos, I have to say the One-via (a.k.a the USDM S13 coupe) is my least favorite. And I love pop-up lights... Maybe it's because I still feel stiffed by Nissan for not having real Silvias in the US....
That said, would still like to build one myself, and would surely love to see yours, Bob! :D
That said, would still like to build one myself, and would surely love to see yours, Bob! :D
Suislide
06-17-2003, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by jay@af
Of the four S13 front/rear combos, I have to say the One-via (a.k.a the USDM S13 coupe) is my least favorite. And I love pop-up lights... Maybe it's because I still feel stiffed by Nissan for not having real Silvias in the US....
That said, would still like to build one myself, and would surely love to see yours, Bob! :D
it's probably because we see them every day around here. we take them for granted. it's not "out of the ordinary" or "weird" so see a One-Via driving down the street in North America, where-as a Sileighty would attract alot of attention.
Of the four S13 front/rear combos, I have to say the One-via (a.k.a the USDM S13 coupe) is my least favorite. And I love pop-up lights... Maybe it's because I still feel stiffed by Nissan for not having real Silvias in the US....
That said, would still like to build one myself, and would surely love to see yours, Bob! :D
it's probably because we see them every day around here. we take them for granted. it's not "out of the ordinary" or "weird" so see a One-Via driving down the street in North America, where-as a Sileighty would attract alot of attention.
Camber
06-17-2003, 03:04 PM
Go for it :bigthumb:
Jay!
06-17-2003, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by S13_Iketani
it's probably because we see them every day around here. we take them for granted. it's not "out of the ordinary" or "weird" so see a One-Via driving down the street in North America, where-as a Sileighty would attract alot of attention. Maybe, but still I drool over the fastbacks, just not the coupes, when they have the same front end. Maybe I don't think the pop-ups suit the coupe as well... I dunno :redface:
it's probably because we see them every day around here. we take them for granted. it's not "out of the ordinary" or "weird" so see a One-Via driving down the street in North America, where-as a Sileighty would attract alot of attention. Maybe, but still I drool over the fastbacks, just not the coupes, when they have the same front end. Maybe I don't think the pop-ups suit the coupe as well... I dunno :redface:
rsbousquet
06-17-2003, 05:18 PM
guh :bloated: i don't understand the onevia. i prefer a sileighty. i guess i haven't seen a onevia eh? make sure they are from the same model manufacturers.. last year i was into trucks and i really loved seeing chevrolet silverados with cadillac escalade front ends.. so i got a DIE-CAST model of both.... i couldn't find plastic models.. and tried to do the conversion myself. oh jeeze the issues i had.. the escalade front end is wider than the silverado so i never figured out a way it would work. i still have everything and i may try and start it again.. for those who don't know what i'm talking about, i've attached an image of a real truck that inspired me...
good luck on the conversion.. i'd say go with aoshima. i think they make both..
good luck on the conversion.. i'd say go with aoshima. i think they make both..
Ayala
06-17-2003, 06:14 PM
can't wait to see the prog!!! good luck!!!
Originally posted by rsbousquet
good luck on the conversion.. i'd say go with aoshima. i think they make both..
uh... aoshima doesn't make an RPS13 and an S13 kit. only the most recent silvias.
Originally posted by rsbousquet
good luck on the conversion.. i'd say go with aoshima. i think they make both..
uh... aoshima doesn't make an RPS13 and an S13 kit. only the most recent silvias.
rsbousquet
06-17-2003, 06:31 PM
dur not aoshima.. whoa i AM losing my mind. i called the skyline engine an sr20det yesterday :bloated: :spit: don't mind me folks. i am honestly never this dumb.. what manufacturer was i thinking of?? tamiya? dear god i feel like a moron... it's so hot :( i'll blame it on the heat.
ps thanks for not saying OMFG HAHA YOU NOOB THINK B4 U SPEK
i hate that.. lol :) i'll go back to the drawing board..
ps thanks for not saying OMFG HAHA YOU NOOB THINK B4 U SPEK
i hate that.. lol :) i'll go back to the drawing board..
Jay!
06-17-2003, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by rsbousquet
dur not aoshima.. whoa i AM losing my mind. i called the skyline engine an sr20det yesterday :bloated: :spit: don't mind me folks. i am honestly never this dumb.. what manufacturer was i thinking of?? tamiya? dear god i feel like a moron... it's so hot :( i'll blame it on the heat.Tamiya made both a Silvia and 180SX back in 1989, and Fujimi have made later versions of each. Dunno if the Tamiya and Fujimi kits will mix-n-match like we think they should...
dur not aoshima.. whoa i AM losing my mind. i called the skyline engine an sr20det yesterday :bloated: :spit: don't mind me folks. i am honestly never this dumb.. what manufacturer was i thinking of?? tamiya? dear god i feel like a moron... it's so hot :( i'll blame it on the heat.Tamiya made both a Silvia and 180SX back in 1989, and Fujimi have made later versions of each. Dunno if the Tamiya and Fujimi kits will mix-n-match like we think they should...
Rtuned
06-17-2003, 10:12 PM
Fujimi S13 do come with face-lift 2 bodykit and the normal bodykit (like Tamiya). As for the rest of the 180SX or Sileighty, fujimi have some different version (early and late). Tamiya S13 still having stock, but as for 180SX...pretty hard to find.:frown:
Rtuned:worshippy :worshippy :worshippy
Rtuned:worshippy :worshippy :worshippy
Honoturtle
06-18-2003, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by jay@af
Tamiya made both a Silvia and 180SX back in 1989, and Fujimi have made later versions of each. Dunno if the Tamiya and Fujimi kits will mix-n-match like we think they should...
Yah, they'll probably not mix, since FOTWs 180sx kit dosen't fit on Fujimis!
Anyways, S13Iketani, can you explain the whole "One-Via" thing? I guess I don't know much about Nissan car "nick-names," huh?:)
Tamiya made both a Silvia and 180SX back in 1989, and Fujimi have made later versions of each. Dunno if the Tamiya and Fujimi kits will mix-n-match like we think they should...
Yah, they'll probably not mix, since FOTWs 180sx kit dosen't fit on Fujimis!
Anyways, S13Iketani, can you explain the whole "One-Via" thing? I guess I don't know much about Nissan car "nick-names," huh?:)
ales
06-18-2003, 12:30 AM
Roughly speaking:
2 cars: Silvia (Sil-via) and 180SX (one-eighty). Now if you (or Nissan) combine the two you (or Nissan :)) can get two different cars:
1) Sil-eighty (Silvia front end on a 180SX) and
2) One-via (180SX front end on a Silvia). :)
2 cars: Silvia (Sil-via) and 180SX (one-eighty). Now if you (or Nissan) combine the two you (or Nissan :)) can get two different cars:
1) Sil-eighty (Silvia front end on a 180SX) and
2) One-via (180SX front end on a Silvia). :)
Forever_Sideways
06-18-2003, 06:07 AM
howdi guys, ive been reading youre forums for a few days now and im quite impressed with the quality of some of your guys' models....
just a quick note bout the Onevia, why dont u just buy one, Im in the middle of doing a Sil80 which i got from Fujimi....and im quite positive that these guys do a Onevia also.....but i could be rong, anywhy, good luck with the conversion..... ive seen it done in real life, but on a model, thats just awsome....
:bigthumb:
just a quick note bout the Onevia, why dont u just buy one, Im in the middle of doing a Sil80 which i got from Fujimi....and im quite positive that these guys do a Onevia also.....but i could be rong, anywhy, good luck with the conversion..... ive seen it done in real life, but on a model, thats just awsome....
:bigthumb:
BOOSTD
06-18-2003, 07:09 AM
They don't make one from what I have seen but I too could be wrong. Make sure you post pics of your Sileighty.
Suislide
06-18-2003, 11:45 AM
i'm pretty damn sure Fujimi doesn't make a One-via...but the easiest route would be to simply buy a Fujimi 180SX and a Fujimi S13, cut them both off at the front of the doors, and just swap front ends! that way you get a Sileighty AND a One-via.
Hono - Ales did a pretty good job of explaining it, but here's my explanation from the 240SX Forum's FAQ:
"Short Explanation Of The Term "Sileighty" (if you didn't already know it)
as you well know, 180SX's are very popular drift cars in Japan. with drifting comes crashing. the 2 go hand in hand. if you drift, then you WILL crash at least once. it's not an "if", it's a "when". anywho, these drifters in Japan with their 180SX's would have an accident involving the front end of their car. but they found out that 180SX front ends are more expensive then Silvia front ends, because of the flip up lights and the mechanisms needed to make them work. the Silvia front end is also lighter because of the lack of those mechanisms. so, since the 180SX and S13 Silvia platforms are exactly the same, these drifters figured out that, for less money, they could buy a weight saving S13 front end and stick it on their 180SX. this hybrid freak-car was given the name Sileighty. why? well, it's simple. the Sil stands for Silvia. since the front end of the Silvia was used, they use the front end of the word. and thusly, the Eighty stands for 180(SX). again, since they used the back part of that car, the back part of the word was used. and the rest, they say, is history. another popular variation in Japan is the One-via. a One-via is the exact opposite of a Sileighty. it's a 180SX flip-up-light front end on an S13 coupe rear end (one for 180, via for Silvia)(all north american S13 coupes were technically sold as One-Vias). since the 180SX front end is heavier and more expensive, this serves no real purpose except to be unique. some other variations are the Sky-eighty (Skyline front on 180, needs custom fabrication), Cef-80 (A31 Cefiro front end on 180, custom fab needed), One-firo (180 front on Cefiro rear, LOTS of custom fab...) and the ever popular 1580 (S15 Silvia front end on 180, technically this is still a Sileighty, but it's called a 1580 so that it's easy to differentiate between S13 and S15 Sileighties). there are countless other combinations, most of which require custom fabrication in order to look good."
Hono - Ales did a pretty good job of explaining it, but here's my explanation from the 240SX Forum's FAQ:
"Short Explanation Of The Term "Sileighty" (if you didn't already know it)
as you well know, 180SX's are very popular drift cars in Japan. with drifting comes crashing. the 2 go hand in hand. if you drift, then you WILL crash at least once. it's not an "if", it's a "when". anywho, these drifters in Japan with their 180SX's would have an accident involving the front end of their car. but they found out that 180SX front ends are more expensive then Silvia front ends, because of the flip up lights and the mechanisms needed to make them work. the Silvia front end is also lighter because of the lack of those mechanisms. so, since the 180SX and S13 Silvia platforms are exactly the same, these drifters figured out that, for less money, they could buy a weight saving S13 front end and stick it on their 180SX. this hybrid freak-car was given the name Sileighty. why? well, it's simple. the Sil stands for Silvia. since the front end of the Silvia was used, they use the front end of the word. and thusly, the Eighty stands for 180(SX). again, since they used the back part of that car, the back part of the word was used. and the rest, they say, is history. another popular variation in Japan is the One-via. a One-via is the exact opposite of a Sileighty. it's a 180SX flip-up-light front end on an S13 coupe rear end (one for 180, via for Silvia)(all north american S13 coupes were technically sold as One-Vias). since the 180SX front end is heavier and more expensive, this serves no real purpose except to be unique. some other variations are the Sky-eighty (Skyline front on 180, needs custom fabrication), Cef-80 (A31 Cefiro front end on 180, custom fab needed), One-firo (180 front on Cefiro rear, LOTS of custom fab...) and the ever popular 1580 (S15 Silvia front end on 180, technically this is still a Sileighty, but it's called a 1580 so that it's easy to differentiate between S13 and S15 Sileighties). there are countless other combinations, most of which require custom fabrication in order to look good."
joecwlaw
06-18-2003, 08:09 PM
:lol: :useless:
rsbousquet
06-18-2003, 09:58 PM
isn't a onevia basicly a 240sx coupe??? i don't understand some things. in japan they had the 240sx (the 240sx coupe we have) and the 180sx (the 240sx hatchback we have) so then wouldn't a onevia be a just regular 240sx coupe with silvia badging?
joecwlaw
06-18-2003, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by rsbousquet
isn't a onevia basicly a 240sx coupe??? i don't understand some things. in japan they had the 240sx (the 240sx coupe we have) and the 180sx (the 240sx hatchback we have) so then wouldn't a onevia be a just regular 240sx coupe with silvia badging?
:iagree:
isn't a onevia basicly a 240sx coupe??? i don't understand some things. in japan they had the 240sx (the 240sx coupe we have) and the 180sx (the 240sx hatchback we have) so then wouldn't a onevia be a just regular 240sx coupe with silvia badging?
:iagree:
Jay!
06-19-2003, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by rsbousquet
isn't a onevia basicly a 240sx coupe??? i don't understand some things. in japan they had the 240sx (the 240sx coupe we have) and the 180sx (the 240sx hatchback we have) so then wouldn't a onevia be a just regular 240sx coupe with silvia badging? Sorta...
There are four "parts":
180SX front end (pop-up lights):
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~vj5y-tkur/180sx.jpg
180SX rear end (fastback):
http://www.win.ne.jp/~ita/takao/personale/180sx.jpg
Silvia front end (fixed lights):
http://village.infoweb.ne.jp/~noboogo/silvia1.jpg
Silvia rear end (coupe):
http://www.bruclass.com/car/images/silvia1.jpg
That makes for four combinations:
Fastback with pop-up lights = 180SX
Fastback with fixed lights = SilEighty
Coupe with pop-up lights = OneVia
Coupe with fixed lights = Silvia
Generally speaking, that is. While the US-market 240SX fastback looks pretty much like the 180SX, there are several other differences, so simply calling it a "180SX" wouldn't be accurate. The same goes for the rest...
isn't a onevia basicly a 240sx coupe??? i don't understand some things. in japan they had the 240sx (the 240sx coupe we have) and the 180sx (the 240sx hatchback we have) so then wouldn't a onevia be a just regular 240sx coupe with silvia badging? Sorta...
There are four "parts":
180SX front end (pop-up lights):
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~vj5y-tkur/180sx.jpg
180SX rear end (fastback):
http://www.win.ne.jp/~ita/takao/personale/180sx.jpg
Silvia front end (fixed lights):
http://village.infoweb.ne.jp/~noboogo/silvia1.jpg
Silvia rear end (coupe):
http://www.bruclass.com/car/images/silvia1.jpg
That makes for four combinations:
Fastback with pop-up lights = 180SX
Fastback with fixed lights = SilEighty
Coupe with pop-up lights = OneVia
Coupe with fixed lights = Silvia
Generally speaking, that is. While the US-market 240SX fastback looks pretty much like the 180SX, there are several other differences, so simply calling it a "180SX" wouldn't be accurate. The same goes for the rest...
Forever_Sideways
06-21-2003, 04:18 AM
well i finally got round to getting some pics, but sorry the resolution is quite crap and i only got 2 pics b4 the batterys ran out....
There are still a few things that need doing to it, like the rear number plate and a couple of other things that i cant think of right now....
http://groups.msn.com/DreamCars/silvia.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10393
http://groups.msn.com/DreamCars/silvia.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10394
There are still a few things that need doing to it, like the rear number plate and a couple of other things that i cant think of right now....
http://groups.msn.com/DreamCars/silvia.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10393
http://groups.msn.com/DreamCars/silvia.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10394
Forever_Sideways
06-21-2003, 04:33 AM
sorry bout the last one, i screwed up the images, hopefully this works
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/351902Sileighty_01.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/262909Sileighty_02.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/351902Sileighty_01.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/262909Sileighty_02.jpg
wishihadar34
06-21-2003, 07:25 PM
love the sileighty Forever_Sideways i'm building a s15 sileighty as soon as i get off my lazy @ss and finish my r33.
A onevia would be just a 240sx. with silvia emblems and wat not. unless ur putting in a sr20 motor under the hood. if we are talking real cars there might be some other differences but in the model kit world we are only looken at the body. so y not build a 240sx coupe. am i overlooking something???????
A onevia would be just a 240sx. with silvia emblems and wat not. unless ur putting in a sr20 motor under the hood. if we are talking real cars there might be some other differences but in the model kit world we are only looken at the body. so y not build a 240sx coupe. am i overlooking something???????
rsbousquet
06-21-2003, 07:36 PM
"Coupe with pop-up lights = OneVia"
basicly any american made 240sx coupe made between 89-95. with silvia badging. sounds cheesy. unless you drop a sr20det engine in then you're ball hauling. i love nissan's. :bigthumb: hardcore style.
ps.. s15 sileighty? geh?
basicly any american made 240sx coupe made between 89-95. with silvia badging. sounds cheesy. unless you drop a sr20det engine in then you're ball hauling. i love nissan's. :bigthumb: hardcore style.
ps.. s15 sileighty? geh?
Forever_Sideways
06-21-2003, 11:28 PM
just wondering how some of u guys think is the best and easiest way to get panel lines????
cheers...
cheers...
Suislide
06-22-2003, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by rsbousquet
"Coupe with pop-up lights = OneVia"
basicly any american made 240sx coupe made between 89-95. with silvia badging. sounds cheesy. unless you drop a sr20det engine in then you're ball hauling. i love nissan's. :bigthumb: hardcore style.
ps.. s15 sileighty? geh?
89-93 you mean. 95 was the start of S14, and 94 was convertibles only.
forever_sidewayz - the car looks very nice except for 2 things. 1) the wheels. they look too big, and don't really suit the car well IMO. 2) the clear tail-lights. that just...doesn't happen on a Sileighty. :biggrin:
"Coupe with pop-up lights = OneVia"
basicly any american made 240sx coupe made between 89-95. with silvia badging. sounds cheesy. unless you drop a sr20det engine in then you're ball hauling. i love nissan's. :bigthumb: hardcore style.
ps.. s15 sileighty? geh?
89-93 you mean. 95 was the start of S14, and 94 was convertibles only.
forever_sidewayz - the car looks very nice except for 2 things. 1) the wheels. they look too big, and don't really suit the car well IMO. 2) the clear tail-lights. that just...doesn't happen on a Sileighty. :biggrin:
yellow15
06-22-2003, 06:55 AM
hello Forever_Sideways, nice to see another NZ silvia club member here :) your sil80 looks good.. want to sell your S14 and sell a Sil80? :tongue:
btw, a suggestion, read this forum's FAQs first if you haven't do that yet... it's really really good .. i've read it more than 5 times already but still find something new everytime i read it!
btw, a suggestion, read this forum's FAQs first if you haven't do that yet... it's really really good .. i've read it more than 5 times already but still find something new everytime i read it!
Forever_Sideways
06-23-2003, 02:42 AM
cheers guys, now that i look @ it the rear rims do lok a little bit big for the car, but the standard ones just didnt cut the mustard..... but next project will get some decient wheels.....
And S13_Iketani, What rong with clear tail lights, do u like being a sheep like every1 else????, j/k, i think its a nice change...dare to be different i say.....
And S13_Iketani, What rong with clear tail lights, do u like being a sheep like every1 else????, j/k, i think its a nice change...dare to be different i say.....
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