94 Ford Thunderbird 4.6...air system/electrical issue
defhand
10-21-2013, 07:23 PM
Good evening,
I recently wired in a new CD player in my car. Prior to hard wiring the aftermarket speaker wires, I was misled to believe that a connector tucked to the left of my glovebox / behind the console was what I needed to cut and wire into. After no sound came from those wires, it was obvious one or both of us was a complete idiot, and I wired up the correct speaker wires. Now, the problems:
1. My air will not run, lights and controls are not working. The display for temp control and outside temp is blank.
2. When I disconnect all but a black connector on the far left of the back of the control, the blower runs freely at full blast.
3. I have since lost the connector I removed. Attached is a photo of the exposed wires. O e purple wire is hot, and when connected to one of the other purple, the temp control display lights up "-188e OUTSIDE TEMP".
I am hoping someone might be able to tell me the correct combinations of wires to make this thing work again, or that there is a connector i can buy to rewire it together.
Thanks in advance!
Here is a link to the image: https://db.tt/KkcLvKJV
I recently wired in a new CD player in my car. Prior to hard wiring the aftermarket speaker wires, I was misled to believe that a connector tucked to the left of my glovebox / behind the console was what I needed to cut and wire into. After no sound came from those wires, it was obvious one or both of us was a complete idiot, and I wired up the correct speaker wires. Now, the problems:
1. My air will not run, lights and controls are not working. The display for temp control and outside temp is blank.
2. When I disconnect all but a black connector on the far left of the back of the control, the blower runs freely at full blast.
3. I have since lost the connector I removed. Attached is a photo of the exposed wires. O e purple wire is hot, and when connected to one of the other purple, the temp control display lights up "-188e OUTSIDE TEMP".
I am hoping someone might be able to tell me the correct combinations of wires to make this thing work again, or that there is a connector i can buy to rewire it together.
Thanks in advance!
Here is a link to the image: https://db.tt/KkcLvKJV
vgames33
10-21-2013, 07:29 PM
I doubt anyone can ID the proper connector from that information. Your best bet would be a pick-n-pull type of junkyard so you can go look for yourself and cut out what you need.
defhand
10-21-2013, 07:30 PM
Ahh i figured. can you access the image?
vgames33
10-21-2013, 07:34 PM
I looked at it. I skimmed the automatic HVAC schematics in Mitchells and didn't see a connector with that many purple wires in it.
vgames33
10-21-2013, 07:35 PM
If those wires all came from separate sides of an inline connector, you should be able to connect like colors together to eliminate the connector.
defhand
10-21-2013, 07:48 PM
I tried that solution already and didn't have any luck.
defhand
10-21-2013, 07:53 PM
also, the connector had no previous use. It must have been an option my tbird didn't come with.
shorod
10-21-2013, 10:47 PM
also, the connector had no previous use. It must have been an option my tbird didn't come with.
Are you saying the connector was just dangling, not connected to anything? Were each of the wires in their own terminal, or were some wires tied together in the connector?
As a general rule of thumb, if there is a connector that is not used, and you are wiring in speakers to locations that work, the connector you're looking for will not be one that goes nowhere.
-Rod
Are you saying the connector was just dangling, not connected to anything? Were each of the wires in their own terminal, or were some wires tied together in the connector?
As a general rule of thumb, if there is a connector that is not used, and you are wiring in speakers to locations that work, the connector you're looking for will not be one that goes nowhere.
-Rod
defhand
10-21-2013, 10:57 PM
Yes...made a huge mistake there. A few lessons learned. Not entirely sure actually, i don't recall what they looked like going in. It actually looked like a stock connector for audio to be honest :/
defhand
10-21-2013, 10:58 PM
Male.
shorod
10-21-2013, 11:02 PM
Do you recall if the connector happened to look like this one?
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/raschmidt/Automotive/C2007_zps7ba5454e.jpg (http://s538.photobucket.com/user/raschmidt/media/Automotive/C2007_zps7ba5454e.jpg.html)
-Rod
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/raschmidt/Automotive/C2007_zps7ba5454e.jpg (http://s538.photobucket.com/user/raschmidt/media/Automotive/C2007_zps7ba5454e.jpg.html)
-Rod
defhand
10-21-2013, 11:04 PM
I believe so!
defhand
10-21-2013, 11:05 PM
There are 2 black ground wires though.
shorod
10-22-2013, 07:46 AM
On the image below, can you point me to the location of the connector you cut? I looked at connectors related to the 1993 and 1995 climate control as well and didn't find a similar connector for the 1993 and found the same for the 1995, no black wires.
Does your car have the electronic automatic climate control? If not, where is the outside temperature reading displayed?
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/raschmidt/1994T-birdConnectors_zps5bfd8f66.jpg (http://s538.photobucket.com/user/raschmidt/media/1994T-birdConnectors_zps5bfd8f66.jpg.html)
-Rod
Does your car have the electronic automatic climate control? If not, where is the outside temperature reading displayed?
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/raschmidt/1994T-birdConnectors_zps5bfd8f66.jpg (http://s538.photobucket.com/user/raschmidt/media/1994T-birdConnectors_zps5bfd8f66.jpg.html)
-Rod
defhand
10-22-2013, 06:34 PM
Below is the image with the location circled in red. It was between the glovebox and console, attached to the metal with a white plastic nub.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vo082r6ywppnc1m/1994T-birdConnectors_zps5bfd8f66.jpg
Here is the exact air control/display that I have, image found online:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/107659nn2gjds23/m-gS7WdVukB87Sz7aL5dggA.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vo082r6ywppnc1m/1994T-birdConnectors_zps5bfd8f66.jpg
Here is the exact air control/display that I have, image found online:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/107659nn2gjds23/m-gS7WdVukB87Sz7aL5dggA.jpg
shorod
10-22-2013, 11:24 PM
That sure seems to indicate that C2007 would be the correct connector. I'm not sure where to go from here.
-Rod
-Rod
defhand
10-23-2013, 06:31 AM
I truly appreciate your help! This is further along than I have been, so thank you for your time.
shorod
10-23-2013, 07:39 AM
If you think the wiring diagrams related to C2007 would be of use to you, send me a Private Message with the request and an e-mail address for you and I'll send the PDFs your way.
-Rod
-Rod
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