Turbo Charge

Alright, I've got a 2002 Civic EX. Obviously I get heat from every other highschool kid, because I have a 20 thousand dollar car, that is slow as hell. I can afford to turbo charge it, but I know nothing but the basics when it comes to cars. If I spent the money on a kit, could I immediatly take it to someone and have them put it on my stock civic, without having to purchase or alter anything else? And if the answers yes, can someone tell me where I could get the best turbo charge kit for my 2002 ex?

I don't know a lot about Honda engines, but I do know a lot about turbos. I would go with any kit that uses a Garrett turbo.

You will get more information in the Honda F/I forum.

Well I see that Garret turbos are mentioned often throughout the forums. I've checked out several sites, and I've seen "Stages" the first stage adding 60+ hp in one instance, and the next adding 120+ hp. Now im not sure what this means, but id like to get as much hp possible, so if someone has the time, could I have a link to a Garret Turbo charge kit, for a 2002 civic ex, with major horse power?

Originally posted by CowHerdingjoe
Well I see that Garret turbos are mentioned often throughout the forums. I've checked out several sites, and I've seen "Stages" the first stage adding 60+ hp in one instance, and the next adding 120+ hp. Now im not sure what this means, but id like to get as much hp possible, so if someone has the time, could I have a link to a Garret Turbo charge kit, for a 2002 civic ex, with major horse power?



first off there are different stages because some people want bigger turbos and such, but the downside is being your car is completely stock engine wise that u would need to beef up your engine internals before you could go to a higher stage. Also it is going to be rather hard to find a turbo KIT for your car being it is a newer car and none of the 1.7 liters have a kit yet. Hell not even my 98 civic has many kits available for it yet. Good luck with a kit and let us know or me know if ya have any more questions. Peace

Since u got the money y dont u custom build the motor it would cost about 4 to 5 gees to make it work and run about 10 to 12 psi boost there are no turbo kits jus buy a t-88... J/k try to buy like a T25 or t3/t4 hybrid turbo.

Would the T3/T4 put my stock civic at or near 200hp?

Originally posted by CowHerdingjoe
Would the T3/T4 put my stock civic at or near 200hp?

Yes. Since you are a beginner (no offense) I would go with the Greddy kit. Get an intercooler for it though. Any shop should put this kit together in a breeze considering Greddy intended to make it easy enough for regular people to put on. It has decent gains, not the best but I would say the most reliable, which is probably what you want.

Sounds good to me, being refered to as a beginner is actually a compliment among other words I've heard. Anyway if you have a link to dig up for me on one of those kits and/or an intercooler. If not I'm sure I can find something.

[Edit] Erm, darn, I visited the GReddy site, and once again I find that my car is still a little too new, everything stops at the 2000 models.
Actually it stops at 2000 Si models and 95 civic models, so does this mean im going to have to wait 5 friggen years to turbo charge my damn car?

What model engine is in your car? D16Y8? It's VTEC right? SOHC?

I believe it's a 1.7L, 127hp vtech

2002 that means hes a D17....... wouldnt that mean a D16 kit would work

sell it and get like a 92-95 hatchback si and work from there

I'd never sell my civic.

Originally posted by 96Hatch
sell it and get like a 92-95 hatchback si and work from there

Yeah I'm sure he wants to go from a 1 year old car to a ten year old one!
They will eventually make stuff for 01-up civics. Just be patient.
BTW I'm sure if he got a loan for it, theres no way he could sell it and pay off the loan and still have enough to buy another car, let alone mod it.

Well what worries me is that there isnt anything really fo 96+ Civics, but I don't feel like waiting years to upgrade my damn civic. Damnit :(

a D16 kit would work i think.. but you should custom fit the turbo and upgrade the engine dont get discouraged u can do anything to a car with money

If you're looking to make 200HP, you'd definitely have to upgrade other systems like fuel delivery.

Greddy kit should come with fuel management

Is there an alternative to waiting on a turbo charge kit for my 2002 civic?

swap in a b18

i know he should up grade the in jectors feul rails fuel pump and ecu and some other stuff to help alot

Originally posted by 96Hatch
swap in a b18

:iamwithst

Would my stock civic be able to handle a 7psi boost???

More like 5 bone stock... Im wit 96hatch on the swap... Tell us how it will work 96

I thought I'd reply here rather than email. Yes 7 PSI is still OK, probably. The rods are the weakest link in a D series. I said 6 to be safe, but 7 should be OK. Obviously Revhard has sold many kits with 7 PSI, and if they blew up engines they wouldn't be still selling them. Also, yes get the stage 2, it includes better fuel management than stage 1. From what I saw it looks like the Revhard kit includes everything ou need.

I seriously doubt I'm going to pay to swap in a b18 then turbo charge it. I'm a 16 year old kid with a minimum wage job. Luckily, I don't have to pay bills, so everything I earn can be saved up. The Revhard stage 1 is a 7psi boost, and that's why I was asking. If not, ill just wait on a damn GReddy kit.

Were are the kits for this car because u are saying u can buy a whole KIT im talking about a custom turbo kit u should make.

I thought I'd reply here rather than email. Yes 7 PSI is still OK, probably. The rods are the weakest link in a D series. I said 6 to be safe, but 7 should be OK. Obviously Revhard has sold many kits with 7 PSI, and if they blew up engines they wouldn't be still selling them. Also, yes get the stage 2, it includes better fuel management than stage 1. From what I saw it looks like the Revhard kit includes everything ou need.

Well is there anything I can do to my engine(besides swapping it) such as minor tweeks and upgrades, to help it handle the Stage 2, 7 Psi boost? I'm going to contact RevHard's tech support to make sure that my engines not going to self destruct though, just incase.. :)

Were are the kits for this car because u are saying u can buy a whole KIT im talking about a custom turbo kit u should make.

The kits located here...http://revhard.com/turbokits.html
but here's the info anyway. Here are the 2 kits I first began looking at, the seconds the one I plan on getting.

Stage: 1
Use: Street
Part #: RHK-20KC1
MSRP: SPECIAL INTRO PRICE: $3999
This kit will be Pending CARB legality Boost Level: 7psi
Injector Size: Stock
Horsepower/Torque: +75 / 215 ft/lbs

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Rev Hard Custom Manifold
Rev Hard T3T4 Turbo
Rev Hard Intercooler (28x6.5x3)
Turbo Smart Wastegate (7 psi)
Vortech Blow-Off Valve
2.25" Aluminzed Mandrel Bent Piping
2.5" Downpipe
Rev Hard FC (Fuel Controller)
Purosil Hoses and Clamps
Steel braided -3 Oil line
Oil Return Line
High Pressure Silicon Line
Necessary Vacuum Lines
Necessary Vacuum Tee's





NEW! Stage: 2
Use: Street/Track
Part #: RHSTGII
MSRP: $3,599.00 (New Pricing)
Boost Level: 7psi
Injector Size: Stock
Horsepower/Torque: +120 / 285 ft/lbs


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Rev Hard Cast Iron Manifold (w/ AC)
Rev Hard NUTEC T3/T04E Hybrid Turbo eff. to 450hp
Turbo efficient to 450hp
Rev Hard Intercooler 28x6.5x3
NEW Turbo Smart 7psi. (TS-SEMA's Best Product for 2002)
Vortec Blow Off Valve
2.25" Aluminzed Mandrel Bent Piping
2.5" Downpipe
Billet Map Diffuser (check valve)
Progressive Type Fuel Regulator
High Volume Fuel Pump
Purosil Hoses & Clamps
Steel Braided -3 Oil Line
Oil Return Line
High Pressure Fuel Line
High Pressure Silicon Hose
Neccessary Vacuum Tee's
Neccessary Vacuum Lines
Optional 2.5" Aluminum Upper Charge Pipe for 94-01 Integras +$150
Stage: 2002 S1

The only upgrades you need are included in the kit. Mostly fuel things.
To increase power and spool time you need a good exhaust system. The kit should include a downpipe to go from the turbo to the stock cat. What you should do is get a high flow cat, and a good cat-back exhaust atleast 2.5'', preferably 3'' because turbos like to breath. If you have the money (about 600 dollars) get the Thermal Research 3'' exhaust. They are the best hands down. I looked at dyno tests in this one magazine and they compared it to all kinds of exhaust systems and Thermal Research prevailed. Some of the exhaust systems were over nine hundred dollars!

Do you think you could give me a link to the exhaust you are speaking of? When I'm about to spend 4 thousand on a turbo kit, 600 seems like 20 bucks to me at the moment.

Originally posted by CowHerdingjoe
I seriously doubt I'm going to pay to swap in a b18 then turbo charge it. I'm a 16 year old kid with a minimum wage job. Luckily, I don't have to pay bills, so everything I earn can be saved up. The Revhard stage 1 is a 7psi boost, and that's why I was asking. If not, ill just wait on a damn GReddy kit.


hmm a swap is probally cheaper then a turbo kit and it will put you at 180 stock

Originally posted by CowHerdingjoe
Do you think you could give me a link to the exhaust you are speaking of? When I'm about to spend 4 thousand on a turbo kit, 600 seems like 20 bucks to me at the moment.

www.thermalrd.com

I looked it up and they only make it up to a 2000 civic of course. But I don't know whats different about an exhaust system from the cat-back on your car.

And no an engine swap would certainly NOT be cheaper when you are not doing it yourself. Of course, if you were doing it yourself it probably would be.

what does a turbo cost? 3k and they dont even make a kit for his car so it will have to have some custom work so that is more money and im not sure on the price of a b18 but i still think it will be close to or cheaper then a turbo and it would be a better base then spending the money on the stock motor



bret

www.cynoptics.com

Well, it's probably going to be 4500 including the exhaust for the turbo kit. The going rate for a JDM B18C1 is about 3200. Then you got to get mounts, Hasport has them for about 550. Then you got to get it installed, not to mention some other things you are going to want to do to it while it's out of the car - IE maybe a clutch, or LSD -theres another thousand easy. But can you say JDM engines are REALLY reliable as his one year old engine with maybe 15K on it? I know JDM engines are only supposed to have 30K but I think they must beat the shit out of them for 30K if it is true. I've never seen any of them last more than a year. And with this turbo kit he should be doing over 200 HP. So even forgetting the clutch and LSD, you need to do intake and exhaust (header, HFC, and Cat-back) to even come close to 200 HP. And that should cost atleast 700 dollars for decent stuff. So by my calculations we are talking 4500 for turbo kit to make atleast 200 HP, OR B18 swap thats unreliable with a couple mods done to to make 200 HP should cost atleast 5000. And it's not like the D series sucks, if he just rebuilds down the road and replaces the rods and pistons he can run like 12-14 PSI and make more power. So it is still upgradable.

Well Revhard has kits for 2001+ si's so I'm assuming they will make a kit for my civic ex fairly soon, giving me time to finish up saving money. These guys only make kits for Civics and Acuras I believe, so that makes me feel better. With the stage 2 kit, and exhaust, I will be WELL over 200hp,(I'm thinking 250+) which thrills me much more than paying almost the same, just to get an engine near 200hp. If I do have enough for the upgrades, and the turbo kit still isn't out, then ill do a few slight mods, and work on my interior/exterior mods.(Im going to hold onto the 4000-4500 bucks, I wont burn it on looks, then be broke when the kit comes out. I'd take performance over looks any day.) Here's where my dad is willing to contribute(he doesn't like the fact that I'm trying to double my civics HP, so he's not willing to contribute to the "turbo fund") Anyway, my civic looks bad ass as it is, 2dr, got a sweet ass spoiler, and I got every little extra possible when we bought it. I'd like to get a black w/ slight orange theme going on in the interior. Black orange mats, completely black sparco seats w/ 5 way harnasses(black w/ orange lettering). New pedals, found these bad ass ones that are black, and glow orange in the center at night...few dash mods, new sound system... and i plan on removing my backseats, or finding some sort of cover. That all will probably put me back a grand. The interior crap is unecessary, but there's nothing like hopping into a "pimped out" interior just before you speed off down the block. Not much will go into my exterior, because im trying to avoid looking too fast and furious. Maybe a few decals, of the brands i've got under the hood, and my interior mods, but no fucking flames or anything. I'd rather some moron in a stock mustang, think I'm just a stupid whiteboy driving a stock 4 cyl. honda civic. And I also look forward to the high pitched rice accel sound, because right now, when I rev, it basically sounds like im starting a vacuum cleaner. I know my civic wont be considered a speed demon by any means, but here in my town, a Mustang GT, is basically the fastest we've got. So I seriously doubt I'll have much to worry about. Anyones opinion is much apreciated. :)

Oh yeah, and I had some car buff reassure me that my engine is perfectly capable of handling a 7psi boost.

Yeah 7 PSI is fine, I was just being safe. However, you will not double the HP of your car. Even though the kit says 120+ gain, that is for modified applications. With only 7 PSI, you will only be doing at BEST 220 BHP.

Thermal Exhaust-"We have prototyped a turbo system for the 2001+ Civic 2dr & 4dr. I am hoping to have the system in production in the next month. I would suggest that you check back in a few weeks for status."
Good news for me :)

i dont know if you got my last message because im new to this site but a company that is very creditable is revhard.com even though they dont have your car listed all you have to do is call them and they will make you very happy.. this is a little diffrent but check their vendors and after you call rev hard call the vendors because some of them sell the kits for cheaper then they do. and on stock motor running 7 psi youll get around 200hp. if you have any questions just ask i was in the same delima a week ago.

alright i just actually read the last few posts and when i comes to hoppin up the engine for best hp the truth is that the only real engine swap for the civic is the brand new rsx motor . because of the way the engin compartment was redesigned if you attempted th but a B series engine in it you would run into so many serious problems i dont even want to discuss how much money it would cost and to be another soul to tell you 7psi on your engine would be fine. i bought the lx 2003 civic in order to run a higher boost because it has a single over head cam what i suggest is buying pistons for a turbo getting turbo camshafts and getting a low profile turbo kit and rolling up next to all thos fools that are talking smack and just b$%ch slap them.plus your car has better body styling. good luck...

Looking for a turbo kit for a 2002 Honda Civic EX. I will have one custom made if available. Any info would help. Thanks

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Max-Rev Motorsports makes an awsome turbo kit for the 2001+ Civic w/ D17 motor. I know that they are currently doing a group buy on these. Also, one really cool thing is that Max-Rev offers financing on their turbo kits. Check them out at www.MaxRev.com

Need help finding out info on getting turbo added to my Honda Civic '03 EX Coupe...

Suggestions, lov my car hate the hp!

I ran 10psi all the time with the Greddy kit. I've got other mods now, but haven't adjusted my timing yet, so sticking with 11psi. :icon16:

I have a d17a2 (which is what the ex is) and the d16 kit that revhard makes would work. I would just run low boost(5.5 pounds would work). and get a block gaurd. I also found some other company that makes a kit FOR the d17 using a garret turbo. Who knows about the other pieces though? As far as turning off the v-tech. I think that is a load of crapola. Leave it. I've seen lots of people blow up, but not because of v-tech.

The swapping of the b series is no good because its too expensive to make the mounts and the wriring and all that. A k series is much more swapable. In my opinion, rev-hard is a sharp-shooting company and you would be happy with it. Listen to the guy that says 7 pounds is ok, but 6 to be safe. He sounds like he knows what he's talkin about. New and old honda are very different. If you need to the scoop on new honda, I have it. ;)

look at the dates next time b4 u reply, most of the guys in here are long gone.

go to www.turbo-kits.com

Civic Extreme Turbo Kits Include:
- Garrett T25 Turbo w/ Wastegate
- Cast Exhaust Manifold
- Chrome Heat Shield
- Downpipe w/ Gasket
- Map Unit (Black Box)
- 2 Injectors & Interface Block
- TSI Injection Control Unit w/ Turbo Timer
- TSI Blow Off Valve (BOV)
- TSI High Flow Front-Mount Intercooler
- Polished Aluminum Intercooler Piping
- SS Braided lines for Water Cooling
- SS Braided lines for Oiling
- Return Hose and Fittings for Oil to Pan
- All Hoses & Clamps
- All Necessary Hardware & Fittings
- Generic Install Instructions
- Injector Control System Settings

and for like 400 you can go to a T28 dual BB turbo

Well what worries me is that there isnt anything really fo 96+ Civics, but I don't feel like waiting years to upgrade my damn civic. Damnit :(

go to jdsperformance.com they got a garret turbo for your car